June Version Update (04/27/2007)

[Spira]

also, to be very honest, i don't see forsee the reunification of alexander at all a possibility even with the manufacted nethicite simply for the fact that Alzadaal is a zone which is supposed to be undersea that is already in place and reunifying the ruins would mean unsubmerging it from the sea and it just wont happen because the actual physical zone is already the way it is... (this is a technical reason why it wont happen)

Can do it in cutscene, fight one BC, than Alexander is sent back to where it was

true.. but what im saying is nothing of a permanent nature will change to the ruins.. lol

[Kyreth]

A sort of FFIV Tower of Bab-il sequence.

That dungeon owned. Having to fight 4 really badass HNMs back to back would be sweet capoff of something like that. How about a fight with all the Salvage chariots at once? :D

I do believe you understand what I had in mind.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

The requirements to get into Aht Ughan's end game area should be top Mercenary Rank AND Floor 100 Key

That actually sounds like a damn good requirement, heh. I'd just need one more rank, and 100 floors of madness. XD

Well by just getting to floor 100 you can get 4 full promotions. Id say thats a good start, plus all the token farming and floor repeats you should be close to max rank anyway.

ninja edit: spelling

You should edit your math too. You don't get a point per floor.

I could have sworn everytime you beat a "fifth floor" you get the equivalent to a new assault mission complete (aka 5 points). Am I wrong?

[Slayzer]

I thought the same as well, at least for new floors. repeating a farm run for example would only get you 1 point for the 5. Or maybe its not like that at all :s

[fantasticdan]

I could have sworn everytime you beat a "fifth floor" you get the equivalent to a new assault mission complete (aka 5 points). Am I wrong?

No, you get 5 points for the first time you get anything done in nyzul isle and exit successfully, even if you just beat floor 1 than exit. You get one point there after for every further successful exit, no matter how many floors are completed. It should work differently than this, but it doesn't.

[sleekmotorwurkz]

Ah ok, my static hasnt devoted much time to nyzul yet and im only on floor 6 so ive gotten the 5 and a few 1's afterwards. I thought I remember seeing somewhere that every new 5 level save was like completing a new assault. Well thats kinda sucky. Oh well.

[Septimus]

also, to be very honest, i don't see forsee the reunification of alexander at all a possibility even with the manufacted nethicite simply for the fact that Alzadaal is a zone which is supposed to be undersea that is already in place and reunifying the ruins would mean unsubmerging it from the sea and it just wont happen because the actual physical zone is already the way it is... (this is a technical reason why it wont happen)

Can do it in cutscene, fight one BC, than Alexander is sent back to where it was

Or the reunification is just to release the avatar from the buildings and it goes back to the way it was.

[Toth]

Well, don't forget that in this game, you can avoid fighting Promethia and the Zilart Prince for years, despite the fact you see cutscenes showing the end of the world is imminent if they aren't defeated immediately. Apocalypse Nigh was a great boost to actually finishing ZM17 and saving Vanadiel

[Mifaco]

every time I saw those cutscenes, I figure that the world has already been saved by some JP

[Septimus]

Well, don't forget that in this game, you can avoid fighting Promethia and the Zilart Prince for years, despite the fact you see cutscenes showing the end of the world is imminent if they aren't defeated immediately. Apocalypse Nigh was a great boost to actually finishing ZM17 and saving Vanadiel

I tried getting a group together for months to do ZM 17 starting the day I finished Divine Might. No one cared until Apocalypse Nigh was released. ;_;

[Coldplay4tw]

Anyone got any ideas on what kinda HNMs they are adding?

[Septimus]

Anyone got any ideas on what kinda HNMs they are adding?

OK, let me look into my crystal ball here...

It is going to have annoying TP moves, and build resistance to stun. It will drop crafting items that are used for synths for armor that are pretty much the same as existing armors with only the most minuscule of improvements. Maybe it will have a weapon or two, but the drop rate is going to be ridiculously low.

I have seen the future, and it is the same as the past.

[Valrath]

Anyone got any ideas on what kinda HNMs they are adding?

OK, let me look into my crystal ball here...

It is going to have annoying TP moves, and build resistance to stun. It will drop crafting items that are used for synths for pup JSE. Maybe it will have a weapon or two, but the drop rate is going to be ridiculously low, or have a latent effect that's retarded like +50 str while asleep.

I have seen the future, and it is the same as the past.

Fixed

[Not Kuno]

Well, don't forget that in this game, you can avoid fighting Promethia and the Zilart Prince for years, despite the fact you see cutscenes showing the end of the world is imminent if they aren't defeated immediately. Apocalypse Nigh was a great boost to actually finishing ZM17 and saving Vanadiel

I tried getting a group together for months to do ZM 17 starting the day I finished Divine Might. No one cared until Apocalypse Nigh was released. ;_;

I always wanted to go sept.

[klvino]

Anyone got any ideas on what kinda HNMs they are adding?

OK, let me look into my crystal ball here...

It is going to have annoying TP moves, and build resistance to stun. It will drop crafting items that are used for synths for pup JSE. Maybe it will have a weapon or two, but the drop rate is going to be ridiculously low, or have a latent effect that's retarded like +50 str while asleep.

I have seen the future, and it is the same as the past.

Fixed

Fixed

[Valrath]

Quote train
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Valrath's spelling skills falls 0.2 points. Valrath's spelling skill reaches -10

I fail.

[Jeryhn]

also, to be very honest, i don't see forsee the reunification of alexander at all a possibility even with the manufacted nethicite simply for the fact that Alzadaal is a zone which is supposed to be undersea that is already in place and reunifying the ruins would mean unsubmerging it from the sea and it just wont happen because the actual physical zone is already the way it is... (this is a technical reason why it wont happen)

Can do it in cutscene, fight one BC, than Alexander is sent back to where it was

Or the reunification is just to release the avatar from the buildings and it goes back to the way it was.

Well, let's see. Alexander is a Celestial Avatar.
As we've seen with the others, they don't need to be "active" to have their Prime forms called upon.

My guess is we'll see Rafhzad do something with the Gordius to reactivate Alexander's presence within the ruins, and we'll fight a BC-style mission in Nyzul Isle (think of the previous Periquia mission where an Assault area is used for a story mission) at the Astral Plinith located there. It's entirely possible to arrange a BC there to fight Alexander Prime (or whatever form it ends up taking).

[Kazen]

Anyone got any ideas on what kinda HNMs they are adding?

OK, let me look into my crystal ball here...

It is going to have annoying TP moves, and build resistance to stun. It will drop crafting items that are used for synths for armor that are pretty much the same as existing armors with only the most minuscule of improvements. Maybe it will have a weapon or two, but the drop rate is going to be ridiculously low.

I have seen the future, and it is the same as the past.

That wouldnt happen to be like a certain HNM I camp alot would it? It couldnt possibly be...

[BRP]

Well, I don't think we'll be fighting anything too big, since there isn't a Battlefield in the .dats to support it.

[Jeryhn]

Well, I don't think we'll be fighting anything too big, since there isn't a Battlefield in the .dats to support it.

The thing will battlefields is that they don't need to be independent zones to support them.

Cases in point:
Hut Door in Ghelsba Outpost
Ix'zdei Room in the Garden of Ru'Hmet

All you need is a small room with a door that leads to an enclosure where you fight whatever. A good example would be the floor on which the Nyzul Isle Plinith is located, or even the islands associated with the Engraved Tablets found in various zones.