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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthyos
    Yeah, it's clearly an abuse of the DMCA. ISP's, content hosts, etc have to comply with notices though, if I understand correctly (which I very well may not, since I'm not a lawyer). It's up to the content owners, bloggers, etc to then submit a counter notification (link is an example for dmca procedures set forth by Google). Only then will the hosts/ISP's be free of liability in putting the content back online.
    You're right, Service Providers have to comply with the notices regardless of their content if they wish to qualify for safe-harbor. What establishes them as "neutral" and protects them from liability is their disclaim on any judgement on the validity of the notice.

    However, these companies sending out the takedown notices are swearing under penalty of perjury that they represent the owner of this hex number. However, since nobody can own the copyright to a number, this is necessarily false and therefore they should be prosecuted for perjury.

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    in before ps3 is finished etc etc.

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    http://digg.com/software/Copyright_is_f ... _for_facts

    GO!

    edit, go digged like 200 times and went down

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    Digg is going insane now... Every single story in the front page is about this. XD wtf

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    People don't like being silenced.

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    amazing. I saw the 15k dugg story last night, I didn't think there'd be this much of a revolt over it today given that there were 1 or 2 legit stories about censorship that didn't mention the key in them on the front page today.

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    lol digg is totally getting owned.

    all the stories right now are like "My favorite number!"

    or "My new 16-digit hexidecimal screensaver!"

    or my personal favorite "The best hex code picture...EVAR!!"

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    lol yes... I just checked there, the first few pages were all articles about that hex code....

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    It is out of hand at the moment, the founder of digg said that he won't be attempting to censor this story in particular any more, so I figure once the kiddies are done shouting their lungs out it'll settle down.

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    LOL, made it to Drudge Report. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezzimal
    It is out of hand at the moment, the founder of digg said that he won't be attempting to censor this story in particular any more, so I figure once the kiddies are done shouting their lungs out it'll settle down.
    It's what should have happened from the start. By deleting the original articles they just added fuel to the fire.

    As for other sites similar to Digg:

    Slashdot has had three articles: one on the key, one on the initial Digg reaction, and the third on the backlash.

    Wikipedia has unleashed their admins on anyone breathing the first hex digit.

    Fark doesn't want anything to do with it. While the liters can't see anything, TotalFark supposedly has it emblazoned at the top that the banhammer cometh for anyone stepping out of line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Rose
    Today was an insane day. And as the founder of Digg, I just wanted to post my thoughts…

    In building and shaping the site I’ve always tried to stay as hands on as possible. We’ve always given site moderation (digging/burying) power to the community. Occasionally we step in to remove stories that violate our terms of use (eg. linking to pornography, illegal downloads, racial hate sites, etc.). So today was a difficult day for us. We had to decide whether to remove stories containing a single code based on a cease and desist declaration. We had to make a call, and in our desire to avoid a scenario where Digg would be interrupted or shut down, we decided to comply and remove the stories with the code.

    But now, after seeing hundreds of stories and reading thousands of comments, you’ve made it clear. You’d rather see Digg go down fighting than bow down to a bigger company. We hear you, and effective immediately we won’t delete stories or comments containing the code and will deal with whatever the consequences might be.

    If we lose, then what the hell, at least we died trying.

    Digg on,

    Kevin
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    So it wasn't a section 512 takedown. Here's a cease-and-desist that AACS sent to Google: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=3218

    edit: Here's Wikipedia on the relevant part of the DMCA.

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    They could save all the money spent on lawyers and pointless copy protection to just sell DVDs a little cheaper and I bet they would sell better.

    $25 for movie is a bit insane and I can't even imagine how much a season of a show on blueray/hddvd will cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichthyos
    So it wasn't a section 512 takedown. Here's a cease-and-desist that AACS sent to Google: http://www.chillingeffects.org/notice.cgi?sID=3218

    edit: Here's Wikipedia on the relevant part of the DMCA.
    Well at least they got the law right this time. It's theoretically a violation of 1201, not subject to the takedown-counternotice dance.

    PS. Nothing in the C&D waives Google's liability in any way regardless if they comply or not. They'd be retarded to agree to section 2 without some quid-pro-quo.

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    Holy shit, Digg is getting raped right now about this.

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    The damage is done, Digg lost all credibility they had.. check out who funds them and you'll see why

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    Care enough to elaborate for the motivationally challenged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epical
    Care enough to elaborate for the motivationally challenged?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diggnation

    HD-DVD is one of their direct sponsors.

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