Cleric Pantaloons +1 Broken?

[Koyangi]

I have them, you lose the VIT, but gain 1 Def, technically no defense gain or loss on upgrade.

[Kainstryder]

Interesting how 2 pairs of relic pants have errors on them. Makes me wonder if any of the others have something about them. I remember a while back, the Assassin's Culotte had like +3 enmity or something, to NA players, but to JP players it said +5 enmity. I asked one of our JP members in my shell to read me the stats on my pants and he confirmed it. They ended up correcting that in a past update, however.

This'll probably sound stupid and such, but could it be possible it's a NA server side issue (like the problem above) and if you do Barfira to someone w/ the JP client it'd show 122?

[Vail]

submit a bug report to SE under POL: I did this when the exp rings didn't function properly with sanction and it got fixed in the next update. (Though I'm sure others noticed too and also submited reports)

[Ashira]

That blows. I remember being really concerned that upgrading my Summoner's Horn to +1 would lead to SE being lazy and forgetting to attach the Perpetuation during Weather mod to the armor, and being so relieved when I tested it.

On a random note, isn't it weird that the Horn +1 loses its VIT stat when you upgrade? I just always wondered what the point there was... except that, I dunno, giving another +1 VIT would have upped Cure IIIs by 1 HP or something I guess?

The Horn doesn't have a VIT stat...
Maybe you're thinking of the feet?

Or I'm just losing my mind..............

wtf help me aaaaaugh

[TT]

damn the worse part about it is that if there are such errors where shit doesnt just work then stuff that isnt really easily testable like +/-enmity, +acc(without checking mobs for low evasion and shit), +evasion, and etc. might not even do shit.

[Spekkio]

a lot of gear loses stats when it HQs. blm af1 to af1+1 shirt loses vit for the HMP, blm af1 hat loses thunder res, rdm af2 hat loses wind resistance to add mnd when it goes HQ. irritating, indeed, but not new.

[Izzy]

ok i suck and forgot to do it last night because of dynamis. I'll do it when i get home today!

[Unholythrash]

damn the worse part about it is that if there are such errors where shit doesnt just work then stuff that isnt really easily testable like +/-enmity, +acc(without checking mobs for low evasion and shit), +evasion, and etc. might not even do shit.

Hopefully they fix it soon, and check other Relic+1's. With us just now noticing this one not working like you said what about the others like armlets+1. Cant really as easily test if they still get the +1 and every main thf in our ls except 1 has +1's >.>

[Flarega]

Help Desk> Describe your Situation:

"My pants don't work"

[Izzy]

No gear, no barfira

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4...3221117pp0.jpg

Barfira with no gear on

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6...3232317of7.jpg

Barfira with AF2 legs on

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/2...3221142wl0.jpg

Barfira with AF2+1 legs on

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9...3221201ay5.jpg

So yes, it is broken Q_Q. Probley will submit a GM call tomorrow at work while I'm bored. I suggest you guys do it too so they can actually see it.

[Allundaria]

Wow that's pretty heinous. For a semi-ok piece to get like WHM legs you could theoretically just spam Jeuno to get a NQ again, but for something like Assassin Armlets... god.

[mikazuki]

+2 elemental resistance (and +2 MDB for the bar-spell element) per bar spell merit, so 113 is the max possible without any merits. 126 if you fully merited bar-spells and enhancing.

8 Enhancing merits would be 16 skill, equalling 3 more Barspell points. 124 max possible.

The MDB is 2 per merit as well, but that doesn't transfer to the exact Bar-#, it's a magic defense to spells of that element not a bar >> resist; so I don't figure that in.. if that's where you're getting the extra +2. Or am I missing 10 Enhancing on gear somewhere?

pretty sure it's 124, the problem is dendryte is dividing enhancing merits by 3 instead of 5, i did the same thing a few months ago and didn't realise my error until reading this topic >.>;

edit: fsck i can't count, max will indeed be 126 when the pants are fixed. or not, who cares >_<

[Nagamaki]

124 is the max possible with NQ Cleric's Pantaloons, 126 is the same possible with HQ ones assuming they aren't broken.

[Ashira]

After all the messing up I already did with figuring bar- and whatnot and originally posting an incorrect base, this shot of Izzy's confuzzled me:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...hira/85bar.jpg

Until I saw this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ra/lolizzy.jpg

LOL... :D

Shame on Izzy, gimping everyone out of 1 resist.. tsk tsk. ;D

[Izzy]

HAHAA the thing that's stupid as hell is, i've been playing this game for 3 years now...i cast enhancing magic EVERY DAY MULTIPLE TIMES....how the fuck is that not capped hahaha.

I tried to call a GM through POL but they said I have to call one ingame...and they're not gonna do shit soooo, I'm guessing they're gonna have to get alot of gm calls to fix this...so everyone call!!! hahaha

[Ashira]

HAHAA the thing that's stupid as hell is, i've been playing this game for 3 years now...i cast enhancing magic EVERY DAY MULTIPLE TIMES....how the fuck is that not capped hahaha.

Needs more Haste. ;D

[Izzy]

HAHAA the thing that's stupid as hell is, i've been playing this game for 3 years now...i cast enhancing magic EVERY DAY MULTIPLE TIMES....how the fuck is that not capped hahaha.

Needs more Haste. ;D

Needs more overnight windower macros !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kaytolam]

Spekkio
a lot of gear loses stats when it HQs. rdm af2 hat loses wind resistance to add mnd when it goes HQ. irritating,

Because thats what every RDM notices when they go from NQ -> HQ Hat the loss of wind resistance, fuck the MND+3 and the HP+14 wheres my damn wind resistance!

On a side note, how can SE not care that an item is not working correctly? I say spam those GM calls they will have to do something. Although I would of thought they would of wanted to fix a bugged item

[Spekkio]

Spekkio
a lot of gear loses stats when it HQs. rdm af2 hat loses wind resistance to add mnd when it goes HQ. irritating,

Because thats what every RDM notices when they go from NQ -> HQ Hat the loss of wind resistance, fuck the MND+3 and the HP+14 wheres my damn wind resistance!

On a side note, how can SE not care that an item is not working correctly? I say spam those GM calls they will have to do something. Although I would of thought they would of wanted to fix a bugged item

several people were citing pieces that lost stats but there was a bit of confusion. i was giving specific examples of pieces that lost stats, not commenting on their value. the blm af1 shirt losing vit, while not a huge loss (what's 4 vit going to do for a blm? not much.) still has some impact and is worth noting, though surely too subtle to be a reason to pass on the upgrade. also, you never know when that wind resistance will help stave off a wing on fafhogg!

[Missnasty]

Isn't there a form somewhere to submit bug reports to SE? I don't think a GM can do much about a bug like that.