Souleater Zerg Gear

[RKenshin]

Weapon: Bahamut's Zaghnal (480 Delay Occasionally Strikes 2-3 Times)
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So far I've managed 17,886 damage in 30 seconds against DL.

Not to discredit or anything but this just doesn't seem mathematically possible to do in 30 seconds. Do you have a parse or screen shots or anything to back it up?

With 80% haste BZ is at 96 delay, meaning you have room for 18 rounds in exactly 30 seconds. Assuming an average of even 2 swings per round, this is 36 total attacks. To do 17,886 damage in 36 attacks, you would have to hit for an average of 496 damage per round with 100% accuracy, and you need 3,750 HP just to get to 450 damage a hit from souleater.

But, you said your gear puts you at 2023 HP. Meaning that you would have to get in ~70+ swings (depending on the damage BZ hits for without souleater), which isn't even near possible if you triple attacked on every BZ round (only 54 hits).

Even at 2.5k HP (Drain II) with a 100% triple attack rate and 100% accuracy, the most damage you can do is 16,200 in 30 seconds. Which totals in 16,700 including the Drain II damage.

So either there's something we don't know about haste caps or the parse isn't correct and/or is including damage from other mobs. Or maybe I made a mistake somewhere in my math, but just triple checked. D:

[Tulun]

Holy necro bump batman.

I would guess he might have accidently included the BW drain as part of his damage total to come up with that number.

[RKenshin]

Yeah, huge necro. <.<

But I couldn't help but ask about that.

[Xrave]

It's called parsing with your eyes.

Or I'm going with he counted the damage by hand when the fight was over and counted BW damage as additional.

[Kaope]

Sorry to derail the OP, but I need help with calculating the 'optimum' equips for drk/sam with FA~

Was just screwing around with FFXI Calculator yesterday trying to figure out the optimum equips~ Assuming you have SV marches (43.75%), hasso (9.96%) and lvl3 DB (14.65%), does this mean you only need around 12% haste of equips (the correct value is 11.64%) in order to reach the 80% haste cap? Also, should I be using brutal earring when using FA?

[Khrno]

Edit: Thank you Raen. >.<;

[Raen Ryong]

Haste Belt is 10% MAGIC haste though, so you're only getting 3% Equip Haste assuming all haste comes from the belt and the legs.

I personally use a Brutal Earring with FA since with so many hits connecting, the odds of a Double Attack also occurring are very high.

[Kaope]

Sorry bumping this thread again, just 2 quick questions:

1) Assuming with lvl 5 DB, does this mean you only need a total 2-3% haste equip in order to reach the haste cap? (This is of course with SV marches + hasso)

2) Does FA proc with Homam Body's Tripple Attack?

For those who can help out

[Evildemon]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...uleatergl9.jpg

just got homam corazza and "completed" my souleater set, missing the obvious kclub , I use fire bomblet at night. maybe shield pendant isn't such a bad idea, ryko

Would this be an optimal Drk zerg setting with Walmart turban/Gloom instead? or would i get more out of say swapping swift belt and homam boots for higher +hp gear as a Hume. Thoughts? and what are the recomended merits for this set-up? trying to utilize my Drk zerg kit with Ridill as best as possible.

[Loan]

Since this is the newbie section, I can answer without much recourse.. I always thought it was, put Haste where you can, then go for HP..

[Evildemon]

I was always planning to do a Haste + build, but i had a different opinion suggesting swapping those two pieces for HP and see what a general consensus on that was.

[Redness]

I would guess he might have accidently included the BW drain as part of his damage total to come up with that number.

So yeah noobie here, but the BW drain doesn't count as damage? >.>?

So you hit for 250, drain back 220 you only did 250 damage? The 220 back into keeping your HP capped doesn't count? What am I missing here? I thought that was what made the BW zerg so special lol. (Or is BW mearly the tool of which to keep yourself alive long enough for SE damage to do its thing?

While I'm at it, my setup uses an M. Kris. Does double attack help, or hurt this weapon? I remember reading something about DA hurting multi-hit weapons but if someone could back this up that'd be great.

I came from an LS with a ton of zerg drks, and I asked them what the whole idea was behind DRK zerg gear, and the common answer was, hit your gear haste cap, and cram HP everywhere else. 100% of the time we had a 3 brd rotation and feint.

[Tulun]

As far as I understand it, yes, the Drain portion is basically just curing yourself, it does no damage to the mob. It's just proportional to the damage you do to the mob

Problem with that picture I see:
Turban / Gloomplate is obvious. You'll net far more swings with that combo.
Blitz ring beats bloodbead at near capped haste values hands down.
Sub DRG to maximize damage (Wyvern Earring / Wyvern Targe). Adds 10 acc+6% haste.
Some of the above gear can be replaced if they have Velocity Belt or HQ Dusk, though.

Happy egg is nice for the ammo slot, as well.

You'd have to get a math guy in to tell you about whether Brutal would help you or hurt you more (I think, the rate of single swinging is higher than triple, so I think brutal would overall net you more swings on average...). Of course, you should probably be using Wyvern / Cassie

[sleekmotorwurkz]

I really think im missing something.... 2355 hp just seems like a retarded amount unless im doing something wrong, granted im a hume, not an elvaan, but still...

Ridill
Januwiyah
Fire Bomblet
W. Turban
Ritter Gorget
Cassie Earring
Wyvern Earring
Gloom Breastplate
Homam Hands
BQ ring
Blood Ring (still need BB)
Gigant Mantle
Swift Belt
Homam Legs
Homam feet

6 Hp merits/Carbonara
Gives me only 23% haste, and other then the 50 hp from BB ring, I cant see where I could possibly squeeze more hp in without losing haste. The highest I think ive ever gotten is ~2100 hp after a 275 drain 2 on KV.

[Omnipotent]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8...uleatergl9.jpg

just got homam corazza and "completed" my souleater set, missing the obvious kclub , I use fire bomblet at night. maybe shield pendant isn't such a bad idea, ryko

You don't care your shiny sword and shiny shield with you at all times?

[Robert]

05-03-2007, 08:37 PM

[Alistaire]

Would you use Llwyd's Clogs:

DEF:15 HP+4% MP+4% Campaign: HP+8% MP+8%
LV 71 WHM BLM RDM PLD DRK SMN BLU SCH

Over Homam Boots?

[richardd]

no, shoot for haste. Homam has enough HP on it anyways.
this is mine, not really all that great, but it gets the job done:
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4...1222608wq8.png

[Veyron]

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9476/zerggearfw9.jpg

Can use a few tweaks like Cassie Earring, Gigant Mantle, and shield +1, besides that it's just about complete!

[SamanosukeShiva]

my ghetto DRK zerg gear since I dont have homam

DRK/DRG

came out 1700 HP (no food) and +25% haste

Main:Mkris
Sub: Januwiyah
Ammo: Bomblet
Head: Walawala Turban
Neck: P.charm
Ears: Wyvern Earring/Cassie Earring
Body: Hauby+1
Hands: Homam manopolas
Rings: BQ Ring/Acc Ring
Back: Gigant Mantle
Waist: Haste Belt
Legs: Sable Cuisses
Feet: Dusk

any inputs?