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    Ridill/Krakken for 21 hits vorpal blade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaylia
    Ridill/Krakken for 21 hits vorpal blade.
    This is the best option.

    Do those same ridill owners that use wood, wear osode full time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    Woodville is obviously better because its nearly half the cost of a maneater.
    I'd just stick w/ AF1 Axe, AF1 body. No reason to get elitist and spend money.

    Maneater / Haub +1.

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    Ive been using juggy/ridill to great effect as of recent

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    If you dont have a Haub+1 would Heca Harness be better than NQ Hauby for WS? or just stick with hauby

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    I'd still use even NQ Haub over Heca.

    And yeah, I use Jugg/Rid rather often instead. Depends on the situation though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenren
    If you dont have a Haub+1 would Heca Harness be better than NQ Hauby for WS? or just stick with hauby
    Considering the difference between NQ and HQ Haub is STR+1 DEX+1 Acc+2 and Atk+2, I would think it's negligible in that Haub is still better than Heca. =)

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    Why the fuck was Woodvile's even an option...
    I'd understand Juggernaut vs Maneater...

    I hope you're wearing your lifebelt gloves, tungi boots and eating tungi sushi at least

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    Watch out boy, she'll chew you up.
    LMFAO... only comes out at night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'd still use even NQ Haub over Heca.

    And yeah, I use Jugg/Rid rather often instead. Depends on the situation though!
    Why do I hear all the wars screaming for heca harness when they have NQ/HQ Haub then.. lol, extra 7-8str over the attack/acc/dex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulia
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'd still use even NQ Haub over Heca.

    And yeah, I use Jugg/Rid rather often instead. Depends on the situation though!
    Why do I hear all the wars screaming for heca harness when they have NQ/HQ Haub then.. lol, extra 7-8str over the attack/acc/dex?
    NEED MOAR WS MACRO SWITCH GEER!

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    Well I think it depends on the situation but for merit party and having a bard around Heca harness seems more beneficial in my eyes. Hauby and heca have the same acc only thing heca lacks is the attack and dex. So basically is 7STR worth the trade for +5 dex and 10 attack? The Dex helps crit mod and 10 attack is good but kinda moot if u have a bard singing minuet imo I'm taru so im kinda biased when I can grab more STR in certain slots hehe This is strictly for Merit pt based as I've partied with WARs in my experience use Heca tend to have higher consistant rampages than without. Strictly from parsing sense. I could be wrong tho also heheh

    edit: I'm able to keep around 50+ acc on my WS build while still achieving 61-63+? STR without food. So for merit pt i think bumping up the STR is good even tho its only a 30% mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulia
    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I'd still use even NQ Haub over Heca.

    And yeah, I use Jugg/Rid rather often instead. Depends on the situation though!
    Why do I hear all the wars screaming for heca harness when they have NQ/HQ Haub then.. lol, extra 7-8str over the attack/acc/dex?
    Adaberk :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryko
    Watch out boy, she'll chew you up.
    WHOOOOOOOOOOA HERE SHE COMES

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    Rid/Joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenren
    Well I think it depends on the situation but for merit party and having a bard around Heca harness seems more beneficial in my eyes. Hauby and heca have the same acc only thing heca lacks is the attack and dex. So basically is 7STR worth the trade for +5 dex and 10 attack? The Dex helps crit mod and 10 attack is good but kinda moot if u have a bard singing minuet imo I'm taru so im kinda biased when I can grab more STR in certain slots hehe This is strictly for Merit pt based as I've partied with WARs in my experience use Heca tend to have higher consistant rampages than without. Strictly from parsing sense. I could be wrong tho also heheh

    edit: I'm able to keep around 50+ acc on my WS build while still achieving 61-63+? STR without food. So for merit pt i think bumping up the STR is good even tho its only a 30% mod.
    Meh, I agree. Would someone like to explain why they think DEX+5 ATK+6.5 is better than STR+7 for Rampage (that's the difference between NQ hauby and heca).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retrieving/C.D/Searain
    Rid/Joy.
    fun to play around in, but not everywhere, citys, first half of beau, some nyzul, exp pts in mire, otherwise I stick to harder attacks, my dot is too low to use it in xarc, the axe pushes through demon defense too well

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    I remember when I first got WAR to 75 I thought the best way to go was Rid/Joy in exp. When I first tried it, it was fun but it wasn't all too impressive in comparison to using Jugg/Rid (or later Man/Rid). I tried it a good deal of times in different PTs, and the results were just about always the same. I figured I just didn't have the gear/merits for it yet, then later shortly after ToA came out me and another decked out WAR/NIN I often PT with did an exp spree netting around 120-180 merits worth of exp over a few months.

    At the time we both had recently finished off our WAR gear, having basically everything aside from some HQ abjs/dusk/etc. In all of those PTs we did a lot of switching back in forth between gear to compare gear sets, food choices, combinations of the two, etc.

    The WAR in question is Lhexh, and he can vouch for me when I say that if I remember it all correctly, in comparing either of us using Rid/Joy vs Axe/Rid it was lower output. Normally we'd both be almost equal on the parse (actual results were relatively the same between the 2-3 PT members that would usually be parsing each PT), but using Rid/Joy that person would fall behind. Originally Lhexh was the most determined to try it, and had the full set of merits (ie, capped sword) along with the same (if not better) gear. Blackice, who also has just about the same gear/merits, also had the same results if I remember correctly. I'm sure he could chime in too.

    In the end though the results showed the lower WS average, lower damage per hit, and often slightly lower accuracy, didn't make up for the higher number of swings and the higher number of WS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paegan
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenren
    Well I think it depends on the situation but for merit party and having a bard around Heca harness seems more beneficial in my eyes. Hauby and heca have the same acc only thing heca lacks is the attack and dex. So basically is 7STR worth the trade for +5 dex and 10 attack? The Dex helps crit mod and 10 attack is good but kinda moot if u have a bard singing minuet imo I'm taru so im kinda biased when I can grab more STR in certain slots hehe This is strictly for Merit pt based as I've partied with WARs in my experience use Heca tend to have higher consistant rampages than without. Strictly from parsing sense. I could be wrong tho also heheh

    edit: I'm able to keep around 50+ acc on my WS build while still achieving 61-63+? STR without food. So for merit pt i think bumping up the STR is good even tho its only a 30% mod.
    Meh, I agree. Would someone like to explain why they think DEX+5 ATK+6.5 is better than STR+7 for Rampage (that's the difference between NQ hauby and heca).
    It's +2.5 acc, +5 DEX, +6.5 attack vs 7 STR. Choose whichever you want but in that specific slot I just would prefer the nice balance of those three stats, as opposed to just STR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RKenshin
    I remember when I first got WAR to 75 I thought the best way to go was Rid/Joy in exp... When I first tried it, it was fun but it wasn't all too impressive in comparison to using Jugg/Rid or Man/Rid later when that Axe was released. I figured I just didn't have the gear/merits for it yet, then later shortly after ToA came out me and another decked out WAR/NIN I often PT with did an exp spree netting around 150-200 merits worth of exp over a few months.

    At the time we both had recently finished off our WAR gear, having basically everything aside from some HQ abjs/dusk/etc. In all of those PTs we did a lot of switching back in forth between gear and comparing in gear sets, food choices, combinations of the two, etc.

    The WAR in question is Lhexh, and he can vouch for me when I say that in comparing either of us using Rid/Joy vs Axe/Rid it was lower output. Normally we'd both be almost equal on the parse (actual results were relatively the same between the 2-3 PT members that would usually be parsing each PT), but using Rid/Joy that person would fall behind. Originally Lhexh was the most determined to try it, and had the full set of merits (ie, sword) along with the same (if not better) gear. Blackice, who also has just about the same gear/merits, also had the same results if I remember correctly. I'm sure he could chime in too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paegan
    Quote Originally Posted by Tenren
    Well I think it depends on the situation but for merit party and having a bard around Heca harness seems more beneficial in my eyes. Hauby and heca have the same acc only thing heca lacks is the attack and dex. So basically is 7STR worth the trade for +5 dex and 10 attack? The Dex helps crit mod and 10 attack is good but kinda moot if u have a bard singing minuet imo I'm taru so im kinda biased when I can grab more STR in certain slots hehe This is strictly for Merit pt based as I've partied with WARs in my experience use Heca tend to have higher consistant rampages than without. Strictly from parsing sense. I could be wrong tho also heheh

    edit: I'm able to keep around 50+ acc on my WS build while still achieving 61-63+? STR without food. So for merit pt i think bumping up the STR is good even tho its only a 30% mod.
    Meh, I agree. Would someone like to explain why they think DEX+5 ATK+6.5 is better than STR+7 for Rampage (that's the difference between NQ hauby and heca).
    It's +2.5 acc, +5 DEX, +6.5 attack vs 7 STR. Choose whichever you want but in that specific slot I just would prefer the nice balance of those three stats, as opposed to just STR.
    Yep.

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