Einherjar (Tier 1, create a separate thread for tier 2)

[BRP]

Went in with 16(no BRD at that)... wasn't able to win. Bugard-X and Halzam Bats with Marid boss. Bats proved to be very annoying with only BLM sleeper. Without a lot of DD bugards took up a lot of time, and we wiped on bats after killing a few. Anyway... something weird happen... one of the BLM ran into the (West) tunnel/gate(being the last one alive) and the bats lost aggro and went back to the center. We tried this again with 60 seconds left and the bats just killed him. Note: He didn't touch the bats on the previous attempt.

EDIT:
I'm pretty convince this can be manaburned, like Dynamis, if you have enough BLMs.

I might try that with shout or something, if my LS decides to stop doing this.

[divisortheory]

Has anyone gone with 6 yet? I know the general consensus is that it's not scaled, but going with 6 would definitely lay that to rest.

[Palin@Ramuh]

We just got Marid Boss

Initially got a set of like 12-15 Ghosts. I was a bit suprised as it was the only mob type.

Went in with 36. Pretty much a full decked alliance of good DD and tons of BLMs.

It started slow, then we slapped Feint and some Def Down moves on it and it started to plummet. Within 5 min we had it at 42%. It wasn't spawning Chigoes.

Then things, just took a turn for the worse. It started spamming the healing move every time it got TP, which is a problem when you have melee on it. Started resisting stuns, which people mentioned before. We attempted to pull Melee off and let BLM nuke it down, but BLM barely kept up with the damage and pretty much broke even with regen. Saw the 10min left message and after ideling at about 70%, we put the melees back on it. Within 2 minutes it was 100% and wouldnt go past 95%.

This thing is frustrating as hell. Also interesting to note, Tiger popped and we didn't kill.

Lots of speculation on how to do it. My personal thoughts are that you have a certain amount of time to Zerg it down then it just fucks you. We went in saving 2 hours for the last 35% or whenever it apparently rages (someone said it did, haven't read too much on it). After it got stuck using the healing mode, we unleashed pretty much all 2 hour and it didnt make a difference.

Anyways, hope that info helps other people. Hopefully, we can figure this out and start some Odin beat down.

**Also to the poster above me: I would say doing it with 6 people is a waste of your time and money, probably can gain some valuable info with that few, but i doubt you would accomplish anything productive. I know that doesn't exactly answer your question, but I think from all the things I have seen and read about scaling -- it doesn't**

[donnie]

question : once we killed the random monster while killing the 15x monsters , he gave a message , and today he spawned after we killed them , cause we killed them soo fast . and he didnt drop a chest or message. Does this mean its only related to mobs behavior and not the boss? , did anyone get a message from random monster even after killing all monsters but the boss?

<-- language grammer fails , not an english speaker

[Sagacious Sundi]

Okay, here's like my last (doubtful) theory on the djigga chigoes:
Djiggas are randomly loaded just like the other mobs (possibly only loaded when a mobs that can spawn them loads, but will not always load if the appropriate mob(s) is/are up), but they will only spawn when stuff like the marid use the stuff that make them spawn. (Any TP skill?)

[Millael]

We noticed that with only BLMs damaging the Marid, one could easily keep up with the stuns, in addition to doing a lot more damage per TP given. Our current plan next time he pops is to have the melees, BRDs, and most of the other supports/tanks on the random mobs in the zone, while all of the BLMs and a blink tank slowly manaburn him to death. Two stunners should be sufficient at that pace of TP - it'll probably be slow as hell, but if you start on that in the beginning, it should be just enough time to finish him off.

[Fou-Lu]

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Fuck this mob. 1/36 chance to get it twice in a row and bam... Got it to 24%, I have an idea for the next run though. It's a slow fuck but a race against time, you could probably b2 zerg it before it starts to resist stun, or slowfuck it o a point then go all out. It seems to be a set amount of stun casts rather than time buildup. The stun resist is such bullshit, it's a pretty bad race against the clock to begin with anyway >_>

Yo when the tiger/bird popped, did you kill?

I'm in Palin's shell and we just finished running out of time on this giant bowl of dicks.
Tiger popped for us, but we let it despawn since its name is from some mythology for " being the beast that is eaten by the undead when it is killed, thus feeding their power" ((See http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Grimgerde%27s_Chamber))
And since that sounds like it makes the mobs tougher, we let him chill.
Hope this shait is fixed in the update tomorrow...

[Ryko]

First time we got a tiger, killed it, no chest, no message.

This time we got a bird, held it, it depopped. No message.

[Weeks]

Well, we just got the absolute worst configuration imaginable in Rossweisse's. 18 BLM Skeles, 12 Dark Elementals, Marid boss spamming Proboscis Shower. One of our BRDs died about 30 seconds in so he HPed and took off his pearl. Got to the boss with 20 seconds left, did a whopping 5% of his life and timed out.

Got the tiger again, killed it with no noticeable effect.

[Yutuyu]

Few observations on Einherjar naming:


Bonus Monsters

Hugin and Muinin are Odin's personal scouts from Norse Mythology, also known as "thought and memory." Maybe this can make the boss forget certain TP moves or change his style of using them?

The tiger is the name of the beast which is cooked every night for the Einherjar as a feast after their battle.

Place Names

Each chamber is named after a Valkyrie from the play "Die Walkure" (or the Valkyrie).

Valgrind is the name of the entrance to Valhalla. The only mortals allowed to enter this place is the Einherjar.

Overall naming

The Einherjar are the mortals who died a death in glorious battle and are chosen by the Valkyrie to serve Odin during Ragnarok, the final battle.



I think the goal of Einherjar, is to essentially BECOME an Einherjar. You're passing the Valkyrie's tests and gaining access to Valgrind which is the gate to Valhalla.

[BRP]

One of our BRDs died about 30 seconds in so he HPed and took off his pearl.

Princess much? lol

[Mashu]

Just did Rosswisse. Got Hounds + Bird + Morbol NM. Nothing new to add about the lesser mobs + bird, although wanted to say I used Souleater on the Morbol NM. It had some kind of damage reduction, I was hitting 30s-150s with Scythe. Souleater Kraken mostly likely won't work on anything in Einherjar.

Noticed this Did Rosswisse, and ended with a lot of Hounds + nearly as many Bats + and a single Bird (which depopped) and then the Wivre NM... Souleater did absolutely nothing vs. the Wivre either ; ;

[Kaylia]

Has anyone gone with 6 yet? I know the general consensus is that it's not scaled, but going with 6 would definitely lay that to rest.

Well, 9 isnt 6, but that's what we had when I tried to go with a small pt. (posted it on page 3)
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There was 12 ghost, which seem to be the same amount people get with 30ppl. About their strength, it's kinda hard to say since I only fought them once, but 3war,1mnk with brd killed 3 in 2minutes with 2hours (I nuked once too). I seriously doubt it's scaled, and if it is, it's not enough to make the area beatable with so little.

[Jackyl]

One of our BRDs died about 30 seconds in so he HPed and took off his pearl.

Princess much? lol

Great candidate for /breaklinkpearl.

[terraflarex]

One of our BRDs died about 30 seconds in so he HPed and took off his pearl.

Princess much? lol

Great candidate for /breaklinkpearl.

Seriously... it's a new area, man up. Have some fun on something new and challenging (at least for the next week or so).

[Lyramion]

Princess much? lol

Great candidate for /breaklinkpearl.

Seriously... it's a new area, man up. Have some fun on something new and challenging (at least for the next week or so).

But its so hard for BRDs to get Merit PTs - All BRDs on my server do Escort Quests every week to keep their buffer up....

[SephYuyX]

Few observations on Einherjar naming:


Bonus Monsters

Hugin and Muinin are Odin's personal scouts from Norse Mythology, also known as "thought and memory." Maybe this can make the boss forget certain TP moves or change his style of using them?

The tiger is the name of the beast which is cooked every night for the Einherjar as a feast after their battle.

Place Names

Each chamber is named after a Valkyrie from the play "Die Walkure" (or the Valkyrie).

Valgrind is the name of the entrance to Valhalla. The only mortals allowed to enter this place is the Einherjar.

Overall naming

The Einherjar are the mortals who died a death in glorious battle and are chosen by the Valkyrie to serve Odin during Ragnarok, the final battle.



I think the goal of Einherjar, is to essentially BECOME an Einherjar. You're passing the Valkyrie's tests and gaining access to Valgrind which is the gate to Valhalla.

Interesting.
I was toying around with the idea that more than one random mob pops during the time in there.
Most everyone sees one, but has anyone dedicated a thf or someone to be on lookout in the back areas where no one can see mobs?

I had the morbol boss the first and second time and didnt know about the random mob, the second time we found and killed it and on the boss, it seemed a lot easier. We had about the same setup, and the only thing we did different was kill the random mob and ignored the worms and just pulled the boss. Perhapse the second mob will make things even easier.

Multipule random mobs make sense, and I know when we go tonight we will have a THF go around and look out for any others.

[Alastaire]

I don't have any real ideas supporting this theory, but just the thought that maybe zerging the boss isn't the way to go, you're supposed to kill him some other way. Up to this point we've discovered ways to zerg just about every fight in the game, and maybe SE's intention this time was to prevent that? I dunno, my LS is scheduled to go in again tomorrow night, I'll see if we come up with anything.

[Division3]

But its so hard for BRDs to get Merit PTs - All BRDs on my server do Escort Quests every week to keep their buffer up....

Did your server fall into the a rift in space time or something, twilight zone maybe? Brds being the heart, or at least a majority, of all burn pts. I find it hard to believe.

Edited: Thx Rocl, coffee hasn't kicked in yet

[Rocl]

But its so hard for BRDs to get Merit PTs - All BRDs on my server do Escort Quests every week to keep their buffer up....

Did you're server fall into the a rift in space time or something, twilight zone maybe? Brds being the heart, or at least a majority, of all burn pts, I find it hard to believe.

First off, "Did you are server fall" is incorrect
Second off, HOLY FUCKING WOOSH LOL