New Jobs' Merit 2 Abilities Discussion

[Toth]

The old topic was lost in rollback so lets try again.

How are the new abilities for the new jobs and what uses can they provide? Feel free to discuss here.

I'll start with PUPs:
They are simply fantatsic. Role Reversal is on a 4 min timer and swaps you and your maton's HP, a new and valuable skill to keep your maton alive. Ventriloquy swaps you and your maton's hate on a selected target and is on a whopping 2 min timer, great for if you solo. The new traits are unbelievable. 3 merits in Optimization is a 15% attack, defense, and magic attack bonus. 3 merits in Fine Tuning is +15 accuracy, evasion, and magic defense. I am currently going 1 RR, 2 Fine Tuning, and 3 Optimization for PUP endgame use. The Merit 2s have indeed been a great fix for PUP after 75!

[Not Kuno]

The AF2 is really good for Pup.

[Alastaire]

I have a couple PUP friends who have said the same, that's great to hear. As for the other jobs, COR looks really meh, and I've heard the BLU merits are garbage.

[Ryko]

for PUP endgame use.

Edit: Also, the whole "someone posted before you, double check your post" crap is sort of annoying >_>

[Toth]

Yeah, Taj spilled the beans on the af2 joke lol. Good one :D

[Rocl]

Taj can't take all the credit.

[Bagel]

Rocl for dev team!

So I assume Role Reversal is same as convert, where the literal amount of HP is switched, with excess HP being lost. For example, if I'm 900/1,000 and Muffin is 1,600/1,600 I'll be at full health and Muffin will be 900/1600?

Edit: yes it is

[Kazen]

Rocl did it.

[Toth]

He mentioned you guys had a hand in it lol. I believed it for about 10 minutes because it seemed like something SE would do but the haste + martial arts bonus on the hands gave it away that it was fake. Watch SE now make our af2 like that lol

[shukuffxi]

Not having much love for the BLU Tier II merits, at all.

Diffusion: Would really be good, if it was on a 5 (or 7 1/2) minute timer. 15 minutes, maxed out: No, no, no. 1 merit max, if even that. Uses for it are obvious, but the timer makes it not worth the effect pretty much.

Convergence: Not too bad, but not earth shattering either. +5 M.Acc and +5 M.Atk (Seems different than MAB, since it affects 1,000 Needles, ***** Breath), and +5 M.Acc/M.Atk per merit. Makes all magical spells single target + more powerful, and if the spell was single target to start, it still gets the M.Acc/M.Atk boost. 10 minute timer hurts, but still, not too shabby of an ability.

Enchainment: I'm meh on it. +10%TP to Chain Affinity, +30%TP. Works kind of the same way Savagery works i'm told. i.e: If you Chain Affinity > Cannonball with 0% TP, the result will be as if you did Chain Affinity > Cannonball with 30%TP.

Assimiliation: +1 Set Point per merit, for a max of 3. Seems really kinda useless overall, letting you stick in maybe 1 more decent spell for use/stat/creating a trait. Maybe i'm missing some obvious 1-3 point configuration that'll really help improve your performance, but if so, I don't see it :/

Personally going either 1/1 Diffusion 3/3 Convergence 2/2 Enchainment, or just dropping Diffusion totally, for a 3rd in Enchainment.

Best news for the update for BLUs was you can now merit Blue Magic Skill, and not have your LS yell at you for lowering Elemental/Enfeebling/BRD skills >_>

[Taj]

Rocl for dev team!

So I assume Role Reversal is same as convert, where the literal amount of HP is switched, with excess HP being lost. For example, if I'm 900/1,000 and Muffin is 1,600/1,600 I'll be at full health and Muffin will be 900/1600?

Edit: yes it is

Can you seriously name your Automaton Muffin? If you can name your Automaton Muffin, PUP will be the last job I ever play.

[Rocl]

It was like:

Kazen: Let's play a joke! Make PUP AF2 and host it on Taj's site!

Taj: idk I'm not making up stats

Rocl: FETCH ME THE PUP AF1 STATS

[vent dicussion]

Rocl: We've done it! We've created the PUP AF2.

Kazen: Host it Taj!

Taj: I guess...

[30 seconds later]

Taj: No, I don't wanna do this sorry guys

Rocl: o ok

Kazen: TOO LATE! KI AND ALLAKHAZAM HAVE TAKEN TO IT

Rocl: hahahahahahhahaha

Taj: you guys are mean

[Taj]

Peer pressure

[Linsivi]

It was like:

Kazen: Let's play a joke! Make PUP AF2 and host it on Taj's site!

Taj: idk I'm not making up stats

Rocl: FETCH ME THE PUP AF1 STATS

Linsivi: Enhances Resist Slow on the pants!

[vent dicussion]

Rocl: We've done it! We've created the PUP AF2.

Kazen: Host it Taj!

Taj: I guess...

[30 seconds later]

Taj: No, I don't wanna do this sorry guys

Rocl: o ok

Kazen: TOO LATE! KI AND ALLAKHAZAM HAVE TAKEN TO IT

Rocl: hahahahahahhahaha

Taj: you guys are mean

Forgot epic suggestion. :<

[Rocl]

Naming it Marionette?
OH OH OH

Enhance "Resist Slow" lolololol

[Bagel]

Rocl for dev team!

So I assume Role Reversal is same as convert, where the literal amount of HP is switched, with excess HP being lost. For example, if I'm 900/1,000 and Muffin is 1,600/1,600 I'll be at full health and Muffin will be 900/1600?

Edit: yes it is

Can you seriously name your Automaton Muffin? If you can name your Automaton Muffin, PUP will be the last job I ever play.

SE names a piece of AF armor after you and this is the thanks they get?

[Taj]

Rocl for dev team!

So I assume Role Reversal is same as convert, where the literal amount of HP is switched, with excess HP being lost. For example, if I'm 900/1,000 and Muffin is 1,600/1,600 I'll be at full health and Muffin will be 900/1600?

Edit: yes it is

Can you seriously name your Automaton Muffin? If you can name your Automaton Muffin, PUP will be the last job I ever play.

SE names a piece of AF armor after you and this is the thanks they get?

I think you misinterpreted what I said. I meant that if you can really name your automaton "Muffin," I'm going to change to PUP and never change back.

[Bagel]

Well that makes a lot more sense.

Full list of Automaton names

[Rocl]

Body:

DEF:39 HP+23 STR+5 Accuracy+15 Haste+3%
Automaton:
Enhances "Cure" potency
Max MP Boost

Hands:

DEF:17 CHR+7 Haste+1%
Enhances "Repair" effect
Enhances "Martial Arts" effect

Head:

DEF:16 HP+19 ?Element: Thunder?+15
Automaton:
Enhances "Haste" effect
Enhances "Maneuver" effects

Legs:

DEF:28 HP+8 DEX+3 MND+3
Enhances "Resist Slow"
HP regeneration While Healing +6

Feet:

DEF:15 HP+12 AGI+5 Accuracy+2 Haste+2%
Automaton:
Max HP Boost
Max MP Boost

PUP AF2
I forgot the names

[fantasticdan]

Convergence actually pretty good for blu, wasn't expecting much from it. The damage increase on magical magic is only 5% per merit, thou it does increase damage on HP based spells and static damage spells as well, like 1k needles. However, the accuracy increase with just the initial unlock is huge, I havn't even gotten any resists on convergence 1k needles on vt-it mobs.

Diffusion timer is terrible, but it is ok for short fights. Mostly a toy, but I think it is worth at least the unlock. Putting more than one point into it would be pretty pointless IMO.

Dissappointed with assimilation, 3 extra set points is nice I guess, but I was hoping for 5-6.

They totally fucked up enchainment. If you do nothing but SACA cannonball HNM/gods on blu, than maybe it is slightly worth your while, but it isn't going to do much of anything for vertical cleave or disseverment. Don't think this is worth any upgrades myself.

Going 3 assimilation, 2 convergence, 1 diffusion.