Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

[Tyche]

Any info yet on what exactly SE meant by the way they worded the changes to floor 100 in the update? The way I understood it was that it was now possible to warp to floor 100 with key item? Anyone who has comlpeted it pre-patch tried it?

[Suiram]

I was just about to start a thread about this actually, so I'll just copy-paste what I was writing here.

It's nice to be back. Anyhow, I'm starting this topic regarding a line in the update notes,

4. The reward for re-completing the 100th floor (by returning to the 100th floor via the key item received upon the first completion) has been adjusted.

The way I read this, since they made a parenthetical remark indicating that the drops were adjusted only for the situations where you return by way of the Runic Key, this has as its minor premise that there is in fact some way to return aside from re-completing the 99 previous floors. On Wednesday our group completed floor 100, and when we went to do our 3rd tag, I tried the Rune to see what options it gave, and they are the same as people got pre-patch, only to floor 1, so we used another member's Runic Disc to go to a different floor. I'm hoping people can suggest things to try to 'activate' the Runic Key. I did a bunch of Ebon Panely stuff that I figured wouldn't work and didn't, like visiting the Engraved Tablets in Mt. Z and Khimaira's island, the ??? door in the Walahra Temple, and the Hume Ebon Panel in Hu'zoi .

Any other suggestions or people's experiences would be welcome.

[Suiram]

Also since I know some people will probably want to debate the meaning on the line in the patch notes, this is the line in the other 3 languages for reference.

?100???????????????????????????????????????"Rune of Transfer"???????100??????????????????????????????? ?

Les trésors obtenus en terminant à nouveau le 100ème palier après avoir fini une première fois celui-ci, obtenu l'objet clé et utilisé la Rune de Transfert, ont été en partie modifiés.

Die Belohnung für das erneute Klären des 100. Blocks (nachdem man nach der ersten Komplettierung mit Hilfe eines Schlüssel-Items dorthin zurückkehrt) wurde angepasst.

[Kilik]

Hmm, this is a bet of a stretch, but have you tried going into Nyzul Assault w/o getting an Assault tag first? The key item may be a free pass to get in to floor 100. Try clicking the Runic Seal (or w/e the nyzul one is called) after you warp to Nyzul using a regular Runic Portal permit. If it doesnt work sorry for wasting 200 IS

[Slott]

Have a question:

Does everyone receive the key item for completing the 100th floor in nyzul or only the person who clicked up?

It seems to also be inferring that beating it a second time will result in a different reward than the key item you got for completing a first time ;x

[Suiram]

Have a question:

Does everyone receive the key item for completing the 100th floor in nyzul or only the person who clicked up?

It seems to also be inferring that beating it a second time will result in a different reward than the key item you got for completing a first time ;x

Just me, the moment Khimaira died, this is what happened, didn't have to click the Rune or anything (although we did, to exit and get tokens):
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/985...ydialogsk4.jpg

BTW, nobody had RNG75 levelled lol

Also, they said they 'adjusted' it which could also means they made the drops worse for re-completing when it was first released, and then made them better in the most recent patch.

[Tyche]

What about the disc hold warping before you engage the floor 100 mob and 5 ppl can farm for the items they want. Even stretching it farther, maybe the disc holder can grab a couple of mules (dont you have to enter with at least 3?), and another tag, and enter level 1, then get invited by the party that killed floor 100, and lot the item he wants. Voila, floor 100 farming.

[Rho]

I was just about to start a thread about this actually, so I'll just copy-paste what I was writing here.

It's nice to be back. Anyhow, I'm starting this topic regarding a line in the update notes,

4. The reward for re-completing the 100th floor (by returning to the 100th floor via the key item received upon the first completion) has been adjusted.

The way I read this, since they made a parenthetical remark indicating that the drops were adjusted only for the situations where you return by way of the Runic Key, this has as its minor premise that there is in fact some way to return aside from re-completing the 99 previous floors...

...Any other suggestions or people's experiences would be welcome.

The way I interpret the line, the reward for beating 100 a second time has been adjusted.

Get to floor 100. Beat the 100 boss the first time. Start over from floor 1 with the key item. Work your way to 100 once again. Beat the 100 boss while in possession of the key item = new reward.

My guess is that beating it the second time may unlock the latent on the weapon, but that's huge speculation. Since the devs in the Q&A said we'd understand the Nyzul weapons better after this update, I'm guessing they're tied into this.

[Suiram]

Well here's why I disagree with you. I think if they just meant by re-completing floor 100, they wouldn't have had that clause in parenthesis at all. It would just read, "The reward for re-completing the 100th floor has been adjusted." Or, if they wanted to specify the reward for the person who held the Runic Key, they may have said, "The reward for re-completing the 100th floor (by returning to the 100th floor while in possession of the key item received upon the first completion) has been adjusted." In that case it's that key word "via" that makes me inclined to believe that's not what they meant. I had a German friend translate the German version, and he says that the way it is worded indicates just as in the NA version that you are somehow returning by way of the Runic Key. An acquaintance who knows Japanese translated the JP version, and they just said it was uncharacteristically vague for JP patch notes lol

[catzie]

for some reason the french one says "the treasures ,after clearing the 100th floor having cleared it before and having obtained the key item and using the rune of transfer have been partially modified."

[BRP]

for some reason the french one says "the treasures ,after clearing the 100th floor having cleared it before and having obtained the key item and using the rune of transfer have been partially modified."

Um, do you know french or did you just use bablefish? Because if the latter, you aren't really helping. Anyway, from what I get from this, it's pretty much what the NA one said, but with a little more gibberish.

[Kaylia]

Les trésors obtenus en terminant à nouveau le 100ème palier après avoir fini une première fois celui-ci, obtenu l'objet clé et utilisé la Rune de Transfert, ont été en partie modifiés.

Treasures obtained after clearing the 100th floor again (after completing it), obtained the key item and used the Rune of Transfert have been modified partially.


The part I bolded in the quote doesnt make much sense, since it's repeating what is implied by "à nouveau" which mean " again". Nothing important tho, just someone sucking at translating in french i guess

[Chips]

for some reason the french one says "the treasures ,after clearing the 100th floor having cleared it before and having obtained the key item and using the rune of transfer have been partially modified."

Um, do you know french or did you just use bablefish? Because if the latter, you aren't really helping. Anyway, from what I get from this, it's pretty much what the NA one said, but with a little more gibberish.

The french version directly translates to: The treasures obtained when now completing the 100th floor after a first time, the the key item and use of the Rune of Transfer have been partially modified.

This is my interpretation, and not bablefish.

[Dammerung]

Beat floor 100. Start a new disc on the person that got the key item, go back to floor 100.

Is how I read it.

[sekaran]

Item chest at the beginning is pretty nice. 1400HP/1400MP on my RDM for the bosses is awesome.

[catzie]

for some reason the french one says "the treasures ,after clearing the 100th floor having cleared it before and having obtained the key item and using the rune of transfer have been partially modified."

Um, do you know french or did you just use bablefish? Because if the latter, you aren't really helping. Anyway, from what I get from this, it's pretty much what the NA one said, but with a little more gibberish.

just so i understand u think id say the french one says that just to fuck with you?

and yea its just saying do it twice to get something else

[Suiram]

Well, we used one of our 4 "AP farming" tags this week to try using my disc to see if anything special happened. Went with 3 people, it didn't let us skip any floors, it didn't automatically activate lamps (floor 3 was "all must be activated at the same time"). That said, we went with 3 and it was as easy for us as it was with 6 pre-patch, so the thing about making the early floors easier was definitely noticeable. I got 1100 tokens with the armband, everyone else 1000 which I think is the same as it was without the Runic Key for floors 1~5 and 3 people. So still at a loss for what it does. Like I indicated in my earlier post, we have someone in our group cleared to floor 60 already, so barring any major fuckups or people flaking out and missing our runs we should be on floor 100 again in 3 weeks, and maybe some other groups are in a similar position as well.

[Imitarate]

I just wanted to note that post-patch Nyzul is a BREEZE if you were any good at it before. My static doesn't have an exactly ideal job setup (we often have a floater from LS, too), but we finished 30-35 in 20 minutes. Our bard hit next floor by mistake, we got a lamp floor, but it was register, so it was done quick. Next run, we got to Adamantoise40 with a good 12 minutes to spare.

However, I haven't seen anything to indicate an increased positive ID probability yet. Two runs is kind of a small sample size though. Has anyone had a positive ID on random-NM ??? items since the patch?

[terraflarex]

I need to start doing this assault again.. ever since salvage was released I just spam that 7 days a week and all my points in the process

[Varg]

I just wanted to note that post-patch Nyzul is a BREEZE if you were any good at it before. My static doesn't have an exactly ideal job setup (we often have a floater from LS, too), but we finished 30-35 in 20 minutes. Our bard hit next floor by mistake, we got a lamp floor, but it was register, so it was done quick. Next run, we got to Adamantoise40 with a good 12 minutes to spare.

However, I haven't seen anything to indicate an increased positive ID probability yet. Two runs is kind of a small sample size though. Has anyone had a positive ID on random-NM ??? items since the patch?

we went on three nyzul runs friday and got a rabbit charm from JEJ and 2 bronze leggings from lizzy