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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Has anyone tried having the disk holder warp out before entering the 100th floor yet?
    Why can't anyone test this ._.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Has anyone tried having the disk holder warp out before entering the 100th floor yet?
    Why can't anyone test this ._.
    I can't speak for everyone, but my guess is that most groups who do Nyzul regularly break down into two types, the people who repeat floor 20/40/60/80 for armor, and groups like mine who repeat 1-100 for everyone in preparation for whatever--if anything--the key item may be used for now or in the future. The former probably don't want to risk having their data reset before everyone has the armor they want, and the latter probably don't want to risk someone missing their key item after 20 runs. Nothing is stopping you from making a group to try it though, it would only take a little over a month and a half using 3 tags a week and never losing.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Has anyone tried having the disk holder warp out before entering the 100th floor yet?
    Why can't anyone test this ._.
    I can't speak for everyone, but my guess is that most groups who do Nyzul regularly break down into two types, the people who repeat floor 20/40/60/80 for armor, and groups like mine who repeat 1-100 for everyone in preparation for whatever--if anything--the key item may be used for now or in the future. The former probably don't want to risk having their data reset before everyone has the armor they want, and the latter probably don't want to risk someone missing their key item after 20 runs. Nothing is stopping you from making a group to try it though, it would only take a little over a month and a half using 3 tags a week and never losing.
    My old group split after farming 20/40/60/80 a lot, but we had no plans to warp someone out of floor 100. It takes a long time to climb there, and no one wanted to see the disc holder miss out on a chance to lot if an item he could've used dropped. If the warp out trick doesn't work, it would take a long time to get back there, and there's no guarantee that the same item would drop again. In my eyes, warping out falls into the category of risk > reward, unless the disc holder has the hats/weapons he wants already.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Quote Originally Posted by Julian
    Has anyone tried having the disk holder warp out before entering the 100th floor yet?
    Why can't anyone test this ._.
    risk your own runic disc to cheat. unless someone had no intention of climbing a 2nd time or obtaining key item or obtaining a weapon/hat from the top floor. when you hit the rune for 100, it tells the clicker that the runic disc will be erased when the boss of floor 100 is beat. it never gives any notice to the disc holder that the runic disc has been erased, you have to confirm it at sage npc, so i'd imagine that se wouldn't leave that loophole. anyhow, imho clearing with the same runic disc twice will allow the disc holder to start from any floor w/o having to clear 1-100.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Suiram
    In another thread, someone suggested having a person with both the Lv75 weapon and a Runic Key try trading it to the Rune of Transfer in the entry waiting-room area to see if anything happened. We would have tried this ourselves but our first weapon was the RNG bow none of us had levelled, which went to the only guy who hadn't passed by the time we realized it might be worth holding on to anyway. Our second weapon went to the same guy because he's the only one in our set with WAR 75, but he's 4th in line to get floor 100 clear and we're on floor 25 for #3 so it's still a couple months off doing 3 tags a week. If anyone has both a weapon and the key item and wouldn't mind testing it if only to report "Nothing happened, as expected," that would be cool.
    i have key item and weapon, i'll try goofing around with it next time. can't equip the weapon for another 68 levels tho >.>

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    can anyone confirm/debunk either of the following:

    1. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to the job that the person used.

    2. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to a job that the person has at level 75.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    can anyone confirm/debunk either of the following:

    1. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to the job that the person used.

    2. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to a job that the person has at level 75.
    I will be able to answer this question in one month as we reclimb. i imagine the reward is being able to enter any floor any time, similar to the odin key item.

    i think our final tally from screwing around since nyzul release on this first runic disc was 8-9 feet (no denali), 1 legs, 3 hands, 7 bodies, 1 head, 1 lolblu weapon (which noone can equip) but looks real pretty. TH4 gave us approximately 50% drop rate on equipment. We also got a trotters boots and retaliators.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Odd
    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    can anyone confirm/debunk either of the following:

    1. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to the job that the person used.

    2. upon clearing 100F a 2nd time (on the disc of someone who has the key item), the weapon that drops is applicable to a job that the person has at level 75.
    I will be able to answer this question in one month as we reclimb. i imagine the reward is being able to enter any floor any time, similar to the odin key item.

    i think our final tally from screwing around since nyzul release on this first runic disc was 8-9 feet (no denali), 1 legs, 3 hands, 7 bodies, 1 head, 1 lolblu weapon (which noone can equip) but looks real pretty. TH4 gave us approximately 50% drop rate on equipment. We also got a trotters boots and retaliators.
    no it's not like odin key item, that's confirmed. so far, from what people have suggested, 2 seems the least that will happen. and blu is actually fantastic in this thing... with a bard with storm fife... we go 3 blu 1 brd 1 rdm 1 thf. havent lost in a long long time... (when we were testing this thing out)

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    no it's not like odin key item, that's confirmed.
    Wait, people have completed Nyzul on a disc that already cleared it?

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    If somebody on Bahamut wants to make a static I'll help investigate >_>

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi
    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    no it's not like odin key item, that's confirmed.
    Wait, people have completed Nyzul on a disc that already cleared it?
    yes, 2 weeks ago (at least) i've heard about it.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi
    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    no it's not like odin key item, that's confirmed.
    Wait, people have completed Nyzul on a disc that already cleared it?
    yes, 2 weeks ago (at least) i've heard about it.
    who? where? what happened?

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Odd
    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    Quote Originally Posted by Sagacious Sundi
    Quote Originally Posted by ullquiorra
    no it's not like odin key item, that's confirmed.
    Wait, people have completed Nyzul on a disc that already cleared it?
    yes, 2 weeks ago (at least) i've heard about it.
    who? where? what happened?
    Yeah, i'd like to hear about this too. Got a link? Thanks!

    So far we are at floor 80 and started farming lower levels last week with a second disc, 7 runs per week. 2x Goliard feet, 2x Denali legs so far and we'll be continuing for a while.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    poidh?

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Our group tried warping the discholder out before killing the floor 100 boss last Sunday. It was at about 40% when he finally warped out, and after we killed it he recieved no messages or anything while standing around in whitegate. No "Runic Key" key item was obtained (by him or anyone else), and the assault NPC that hands out assault orders for Nyzul Isle (Sorrowful Sage or something?) still says he has "investigated up to floor 95" when asked about Nyzul Isle progress.

    So it seems to have worked in preserving his disc, though we won't find out for sure until our next run is (this Sunday). If anyone was curious, we did get a Goliard Chapeau and a Double Axe as drops from killing the boss that time.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Underverk
    Our group tried warping the discholder out before killing the floor 100 boss last Sunday. It was at about 40% when he finally warped out, and after we killed it he recieved no messages or anything while standing around in whitegate. No "Runic Key" key item was obtained (by him or anyone else), and the assault NPC that hands out assault orders for Nyzul Isle (Sorrowful Sage or something?) still says he has "investigated up to floor 95" when asked about Nyzul Isle progress.

    So it seems to have worked in preserving his disc, though we won't find out for sure until our next run is (this Sunday). If anyone was curious, we did get a Goliard Chapeau and a Double Axe as drops from killing the boss that time.
    This bodes well for my Nyzul group. I'm the discholder on RDM/BLM. So if the above is accurate, I can warp out at 20-25%, give them the chance to farm headpieces and nyzul weapons, and go for mine when we're ready to reset for the second batch.

    Thanks for finally testing this. I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the risk you took.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    good news indeed, though please do post after you check for sure next run.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    the nyzul wiki page contains no information on the vendor box, might be a good idea to change that.

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Garion
    anyone made it to floor 100 a second time on the person that got the key item?

    Interested to know what the "Reward" is.
    Whatever the reward is, it's different from the pre-patch reward. What was the old reward, before they changed it?
    We just finished 100th floor with Runic Key holder (me). Absolutely nothing different - I got reset runic disc as I'd had at the first climb up, no drop, just Sturdy Axe for me (I'm WAR, so maybe that's what SE meant in adjusting drop rate on 100th floor -__________-).

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    Re: Post patch Nyzul Isle Assault

    The only thing that's left is clearing it with keyitem and weapon equiped.

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