Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Narse]

Yeah, we pulled both gears into the middle room, slept one and fought the other one down to ~5%, slept it and fought the other to 9%, ES Blizzaga III to knock 'em both out at the same time. Afterwards we split up and checked the rooms, I went East and someone else went West, but he beat me to the room, so I can't say if the rampart is up in both rooms or just one, but it was definately in the West room after we finished.

Did you kill the single gears at all, or did you ignore them?

Didn't touch single gears in either room. Both pulls on the triple gears were without link.

[Toth]

Just beat LBC with my Salvage group of 9.

2 Ridill WAR
1 PLD/NIN
1 BLM/WHM (me)
2 WHM
2 RDM
1 BRD

Much easier fight :D The WARs kept hate and meleed while the PLD stayed out of HM range, flashing and helping to cure. When the hate reset occurred, the PLD had hate and kept it while the WARs re-established hate and keep pounding awya on it. The strategy worked very well and I was able to maintain a steady nuking with Blizzard II and III. It was downed in about 30 mins with Bohd's Robe and Phobos Cuirass as prizes.

[NynJa]

It was downed in about 30 mins

thats pretty slow I must say :\

[Vejitta]

I can't imagine Ridill this thing. I tried it some time ago and our healers had no mp after 3 minutes into the fight. Double Axes seems fine enough imo. Slower but harder.

[Lordwafik]

if 2 ridills took 30mins I can't imagine how long dual axes would have taken <_<

[Almalexia]

With 8 people, MNK+NIN tanking, LBC takes just under 10 minutes to defeat.

Long-bowed Chariot>> I NERF RIDILLS. SORRY GUYS LOL!!

[Vejitta]

I can imagine it took so long cause of TP spam. And what's so good in holding LBC from Tier II or Tier III nukes? And double Axes are hawt. SE should give WARs some Ridill Axe :]

Anyway, considering my group still wiping like a bunch of nOObs on it I should still congratulate you^^

[Wizerd]

You people who kill it in 10 minutes usually have a BLM or two don't you? <_< When I did it before, with 6, we got it to 40% with 2 MNK/NIN in about 15-20min I think. No damage aside from MNKs.

[Julian]

2 MNKs, 2-3 BLMs, down in 10-15min.

[Toth]

Well, it was our first attempt using the low man setup so there will be improvement and I appreciate the advice. As BLM though, should I have used Blizzard IV on a more continous basis? I was very concerned about pulling hate but maybe I was a bit too cautious? Also, we probably could have won quicker if the PLD had not DC'd and had trouble logging back on. Finally, the WARs are very well geared and though they took down LBC at a good pace, I can't think of a safe and effective way to speed up the fight.

BTW Based on this testimony, MNK/NIN >>>>>>>>>>> WAR/NIN with ridill on this. However, Lord, don't forget that your Spharai MNK/NIN mate will always decimate a ridill WAR. Right, Aurik XD

[Wulfgang]

Kikoku NIN, BB MNK, and me on RNG can down it in about 15 minutes; our BLM only stuns as LBC turns to prevent HM.

[Judai]

BTW Based on this testimony, MNK/NIN >>>>>>>>>>> WAR/NIN with ridill on this. However, Lord, don't forget that your Spharai MNK/NIN mate will always decimate a ridill WAR. Right, Aurik XD

MNK/NIN has some nice Subtle Blow, therefore you get hit with FAR less TP attacks and have to worry less about curing and getting mad hate. MNKs also have better defensive skills to tank it.

The one time I got to tank it on MNK my co-tank died early and I solo'd about 20% in 5m or so. I was the only person damaging it because we were trying to recover a bit and it was our first time trying the MNK tank method.

[Aemora]

Well, we got it to 53% in 5 minutes with 2 Mnk/Nins, 2 Rdms, 1 Blm, 0 Brds ... Timed out on the fight, unfortunately, after failing at 4th Floor Gear trick etc~

We're done with LBC for a while; Gonna finish up our other items (2/3 Skadi Jambeaux, Usukane Legs, second Morrigan's Robe) and attack other bosses because we want to etc~

Oh, and we got 3/3 on our second Ares's Cuirass last night. Needs Ore for Upgrade etc. 3 Salvage pieces woooooo~ (Shut up you guys with 19 pieces :< h8u)

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER DOES IT TOTH! LOL COS I SUCK AND WE HAVE 'HISTORY', REMEMBER?!?!?!

...'Cos I sure as hell don't.

[Bleu]

I can't see any reason to do "constant tier II and III nukes". All your doing is feeding it more TP and giving it more opportunity to build resistance.

Nuke less and nuke hard.

[Lordwafik]

BTW Based on this testimony, MNK/NIN >>>>>>>>>>> WAR/NIN with ridill on this. However, Lord, don't forget that your Spharai MNK/NIN mate will always decimate a ridill WAR. Right, Aurik XD

Hmm don't need spharai, it doesn't add BBQchickens to the fight (but it's a giant tool in the earlier floors on the way up). We do have a ridill war come sometimes, but on bosses he goes axe/axe so Mages MP bars aren't always <10%

[aurik]

Our sub-10-minute kills involve foolishnesst like having 3 monks with hundred fists and body boost and fanatic drinks etc. I think we've killed as fast as 7 minutes (nerfed LBC) and 8 minutes (AC); most of the time we're in the range of 10-15.

[Toth]

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER DOES IT TOTH! LOL COS I SUCK AND WE HAVE 'HISTORY', REMEMBER?!?!?!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Grats on getting it to 53% and...losing. Thanks for the useful information.

Back on topic, is there anything the WARs can do to better tank/mitigate damage better on LBC?

[Judai]

Switch to MNK and stop feeding it so much TP.

[Sagacious Sundi]

What we know is:

Killing 8 gears does nothing (needs verification)
Killing 9 removes hate reset on homing missile from everyone but the primary target
Killing 10 + entering and killing rampart completely nerfs homing missile

Killing 10 and not entering the rampart has not been tested, but it's likely that it's same as killing 10 + entering and killing rampart.

Something tells me the way to weaken the other chariots involve:
Arrapago: 6F QQs (Semi-nerf: 1 QQ, Full nerf: 2 QQs)
Zhayolm: 6F ramparts/manticores (Semi-nerf: 1 rampart+its manticore?, Full nerf: 2 ramparts+their manticores?)
Silver Sea: Clear 4F? (Semi-nerf: 1 side (16 gears, 4 ramparts, & 1 chariot), Full nerf: both sides (32 gears, 8 ramparts, & 2 chariots))

[Toth]

Switch to MNK and stop feeding it so much TP.

They don't have MNK so that's not going to happen >.>