Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Judai]

Zhayolm: 6F ramparts/manticores (Semi-nerf: 1 rampart+its manticore?, Full nerf: 2 ramparts+their manticores?)

People already said this does nothing.

[Kaisho]

Is it possible to farm 2nd floor rampart, kill the gears on 4th floor, and kill LBC? My group has around 8 people that come every run and this is going to be our 2nd Bhaflau run.

[Kaylia]

Is it possible to farm 2nd floor rampart, kill the gears on 4th floor, and kill LBC? My group has around 8 people that come every run and this is going to be our 2nd Bhaflau run.

If you are planning to get the 10 gears to "weaken" it, skip 2nd floor rampart, especially on a 2nd run. Cant say my group is really experienced with salvage, but we dont have time to kill more than 1 rampart per run if we go for mega.

[Francisco II]

What would you guys give the droprate of Skirmish Pephredo on the 35 Usukane feet? Just got Sune-Ate from LAC and was looking to do a few farming runs (3 lvl 25 Sune-Ate in last 3 kills, last kill was a double drop). Whats pop rate on Skirmish, and droprate on the feet?

Popped the Reactionary Rampart tonight - Skirmish Pephredo popped three times.

Hikazu Sune-ate dropped on the lolbee's third and final pop.

Regarding LBC:

I find MNK/WAR wearing...

Destroyers, Tiphia Sting, Melee Crown, Peacock Charm, Brutal Earring, Ethereal Earring, Arakan Samue, Melee Gloves, Rajas Ring, Toreador's Ring, Amemet Mantle +1, Black Belt, Melee Hose, Dune Boots

...still deals some serious damage, despite wearing less than stellar "DD gear". The extra Subtle Blow (+28) makes a very noticeable difference. Food was Coeurl Sub, and I used Asuran Fists pretty much whenever I had TP. I died twice, once around 40%, and again around 5%, after Hundred Fists. We wound up winning with about 12 minutes to spare.

[Aemora]

BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER DOES IT TOTH! LOL COS I SUCK AND WE HAVE 'HISTORY', REMEMBER?!?!?!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Grats on getting it to 53% and...losing.

Guess 2 Ares's Cuirass and a Robe (Re: Sig) is testimony to my fail.

And what the fuck is this 'History' between us, because I haven't got a fucking clue what you are on about?

Meanwhile, we're something like 0/1200 on NM Rampart pops :< hlep

[Xerlic]

Is it possible to farm 2nd floor rampart, kill the gears on 4th floor, and kill LBC? My group has around 8 people that come every run and this is going to be our 2nd Bhaflau run.

Last night we popped the 2f Rampart and farmed it for about 50% of its health. I then made the call to kill it since it didn't seem like Skirmish was coming out.

We then killed 9/10 gears cuz our puller messed up and aggro'd the very last gear when pulling the 9th.

Then killed LBC in about 15 minutes and had 10 minutes to spare. We had 11 people for all of this.

[Bleu]

Skirmish Pephredo drop rate seems lower than I expected from other comments. He popped 7 times last night and we went 0/7. Gate Widow didn't even pop once =(

[Wulfgang]

Skirmish Pephredo is driving our shell nuts. Like 0/6 on any pops of the NM at all in the current group. Im probably 0/9-10 total.

[Deimos]

I find MNK/WAR wearing...
Destroyers, Tiphia Sting, Melee Crown, Peacock Charm, Brutal Earring, Ethereal Earring, Arakan Samue, Melee Gloves, Rajas Ring, Toreador's Ring, Amemet Mantle +1, Black Belt, Melee Hose, Dune Boots

MNK/WAR seems suicidal to me, I take a lot of damage being MNK/NIN, just from the AOEs and getting hit after one of those wipes shadows. I usually die after 25% as well, just from LBC turning into, as Zilong so accurately described it, "the spawn of satan" at that point. Can't imagine if I didn't get to blink any hits at all. We'd probably have to bring another 1-2 WHM just to keep me alive.

Gear-wise I use:
Destroyers, Tiphia Sting, Walahra Turban, Faith Torque, Brutal Earring, Minuet Earring, Shura Togi, Melee Gloves, Rajas Ring, Jaeger Ring, Forager's Mantle, Black Belt, Byakko's Haidate, Dune Boots

I don't know that I'd be willing to make the sacrifices in the head, body, and legs slots you do for more Subtle Blow, 10% haste is a pretty big loss, especially with /NIN. I was even considering trying Fuma Sune-Ate yesterday instead of Dune Boots for a little more haste, never mind taking some off. I generally use Sole Sushi for food, my accuracy is a little lower than I like on the chariots with meat, and Soul Voice Minuet covers attack for a good amount of the fight pretty well anyway.

My question for other MNKs is: do you Counterstance for this fight? As other people have said, DEF actually seems to play a decent role on the chariots, so he hits pretty freakin' hard with Counterstance DEF, but it might be worth the pain to have a higher chance of getting Utsusemi Ichi back up successfully. I haven't really decided on this yet, I've tried it on and off, but I'm not really sure which I think is working better.

P.S. Screw Skirmish Pephedro

[aurik]

If elegy/slow2 are on, I tend to not use counterstance, and instead cede hits in order to put up shadows when necessary.

[Francisco II]

/WAR was surprisingly not (excessively) suicidal at all, and I did switch in and out some ACC gear when Focus was down.

My first death around 40% was basically from me getting crit hit a bunch of times in a row, Chakra getting paralyzed. I told the WHMs to let me die for hate reset/MP conservation. Counterstance was not up.

The second death came at 5%, during the BLM zerg. Missle went off, I drew hate with my back turned... splat...

I had Counterstance up the entire time during my Hundred Fists zerg... from ~30% down to ~15%, I pretty much counter tanked it, and my HP never went below 50%, except for one Homing Missle.

[Zilong]

Is it possible to farm 2nd floor rampart, kill the gears on 4th floor, and kill LBC? My group has around 8 people that come every run and this is going to be our 2nd Bhaflau run.

If you are planning to get the 10 gears to "weaken" it, skip 2nd floor rampart, especially on a 2nd run. Cant say my group is really experienced with salvage, but we dont have time to kill more than 1 rampart per run if we go for mega.

My group usually kill 1 rampart then LBC, but we'd end up with anything from 10-15 min spare time, so I'd imagine 4th floor rampart popping would be more than possible.

As for MNK/WAR...the way I see it, on all chariot fight, if you plan to straight tank it, you should only have 2 people on him at all time, since anymore beyond that just create extra unneeded TP gain, and/or MP sink. And if you don't have shadow, I'd suggest you just stay away from LBC if your defense is below 420.

But that's our 8-10 people strategy, I'm sure if you have more, you can probably pop a few more melee and just get a few more mage to support them.

You people who kill it in 10 minutes usually have a BLM or two don't you? <_< When I did it before, with 6, we got it to 40% with 2 MNK/NIN in about 15-20min I think. No damage aside from MNKs.

Our BLM does nothing but stun, NIN/WAR + MNK/NIN hundred fisting running multiple fusions under SV Songs effect usually enough to take down 50-60% before the SV wore, then from that point on is just business as usual, until 20%> where we give the BLM green light to go nuts, and at 10%> where we give the RDM the green light to go nuts too.

CS + Assassin + Oracle is fucking scary.

[divisortheory]

Killed LBC in 6 minutes today lol. Had 3 revitalizers, gave to MNK, Ridill WAR, Bard. Started with soul voice double minuet, WAR and MNK ate meat, I used feint, RDM had Dia II on. after 2 hours wore they popped Revitalizers again and used 2 hours again. BLMs were nuking constantly. After 2 hours wore the second time Bard popped her Revitalizer and used March + Madrigal and we kept heavy nukes on. I went in to melee a little when it was 15%. Other than that the only damage was MNK WAR BLM BLM.

[Kaylia]

Is there any chest that is most likely to have revitalizer, or are they completly random?

[Zilong]

Is there any chest that is most likely to have revitalizer, or are they completly random?

The 4th floor gears chest usually have pretty high end medicine, which is why even if you fail weakening homing missile, you should still get a good amount of med to blast LBC to hell and back.

[Garion]

Nice, Revitalizer's will come in handy for the boss ^^ Some great info about the 10 gears weakening the boss, that will make the 6 man groups work easier.

On a side note though, do any of you kill the Ramparts before they reach 0% when poping mobs to speed things up? or do you just let it go all the way down to 0%? We let them go to 0% but have kinda wondered what would happen if it decided to pop one at say 1-2%, would realy suck to not be able to kill it before the rampart died.

[Wizerd]

Nice, Revitalizer's will come in handy for the boss ^^ Some great info about the 10 gears weakening the boss, that will make the 6 man groups work easier.

On a side note though, do any of you kill the Ramparts before they reach 0% when poping mobs to speed things up? or do you just let it go all the way down to 0%? We let them go to 0% but have kinda wondered what would happen if it decided to pop one at say 1-2%, would realy suck to not be able to kill it before the rampart died.

If you save up TP you can kill the NMs when they spawn at 2%. However, when they spawn their last one they die off and you get kicked right away.

Also, how do you plan on killing the 4th floor single gears with 6 people in time? They are harder than Zhayolm/Arrapago gears.

[Garion]

Nice, Revitalizer's will come in handy for the boss ^^ Some great info about the 10 gears weakening the boss, that will make the 6 man groups work easier.

On a side note though, do any of you kill the Ramparts before they reach 0% when poping mobs to speed things up? or do you just let it go all the way down to 0%? We let them go to 0% but have kinda wondered what would happen if it decided to pop one at say 1-2%, would realy suck to not be able to kill it before the rampart died.

If you save up TP you can kill the NMs when they spawn at 2%. However, when they spawn their last one they die off and you get kicked right away.

Also, how do you plan on killing the 4th floor single gears with 6 people in time? They are harder than Zhayolm/Arrapago gears.

Did the zone tonight actualy, we only killed 2 gears as we had a bad pull. The gears went down just fine though. Died within the 60 seconds needed. our Group was actualy 7 ppl, with only 5 actual ppl. We had Mnk Nin Rdm Brd Blm, a Riddle Thf (Dualbox), and a second mnk(Dualbox). They went down just fine. We were almost totaly geared out as Mad Bomber wasn't up so we farmed a little more. Mnk's were sub war since we wern't trying for the boss realy, that may have helped a bit. When we go for the boss, we would have the Nin go Whm, think they would be impossible if we lost his dmg?

[Wizerd]

Nice, Revitalizer's will come in handy for the boss ^^ Some great info about the 10 gears weakening the boss, that will make the 6 man groups work easier.

On a side note though, do any of you kill the Ramparts before they reach 0% when poping mobs to speed things up? or do you just let it go all the way down to 0%? We let them go to 0% but have kinda wondered what would happen if it decided to pop one at say 1-2%, would realy suck to not be able to kill it before the rampart died.

If you save up TP you can kill the NMs when they spawn at 2%. However, when they spawn their last one they die off and you get kicked right away.

Also, how do you plan on killing the 4th floor single gears with 6 people in time? They are harder than Zhayolm/Arrapago gears.

Did the zone tonight actualy, we only killed 2 gears as we had a bad pull. The gears went down just fine though. Died within the 60 seconds needed. our Group was actualy 7 ppl, with only 5 actual ppl. We had Mnk Nin Rdm Brd Blm, a Riddle Thf (Dualbox), and a second mnk(Dualbox). They went down just fine. We were almost totaly geared out as Mad Bomber wasn't up so we farmed a little more. Mnk's were sub war since we wern't trying for the boss realy, that may have helped a bit. When we go for the boss, we would have the Nin go Whm, think they would be impossible if we lost his dmg?

We only ever got them down to 30-50% because often they'd use Restoral and fuck up our chances, with MNK/NIN DRK/THF THF/NIN BRD RDM WHM (I think). Maybe 7 people, 2 of them MNK/NIN. I forget, it was a while ago.

[suji]

Also, how do you plan on killing the 4th floor single gears with 6 people in time? They are harder than Zhayolm/Arrapago gears.

A group in our LS pulled this off with six a while back when things were first being discovered. Not sure of the exact jobs but I'm pretty sure there was at least ridill war, brd, rdm and mnk. We tried to do them again recently with a small setup and failed though (god damn that rampart btw). Went in with THF MNK SAM BRD RDM BLM. Our strat for the gears was to make sure we had lots of MP, HP and fresh songs for the pull. We downed the first one pretty easily but the second did a Restoral at 4% HP or something and it eventually warped away with like 8% health left

I think if we had brought another DD instead of BLM it may have worked out. MNK punches were strong but BLM tier4 nukes seem to only do about 400 damage on them. I still want to try this again with a 4dd setup because I think we can do it. I was slightly worried about being able to keep up with the birds from the rampart if we were actually able to pop it though, because we did the Flan rampart earlier that run and there were a few times when it got kind of hectic. We got lucky with 3 NM pops from that rampart though which didn't help ease the crowd control ;^^