Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Wulfgang]

Did 4F Rampart today, had three Perytons and two Freya's Jerkin drop, was quite nice.

By the way, did anyone else notice Homing Missile is COMPLETELY nerfed lol? It does 250-300 dmg AOE and doesn't hate reset; however it can kill you now. Bodb's Robe and Ea's Dastanas were drops. I have some SS's of the Homing Missiles if anyone would like to confirm.

Edit: Pics

Peryton
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Homing Missile nerfed
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...612_010411.png

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[divisortheory]

Did 4F Rampart today, had three Perytons and two Freya's Jerkin drop, was quite nice.

By the way, did anyone else notice Homing Missile is COMPLETELY nerfed lol? It does 250-300 dmg AOE and doesn't hate reset; however it can kill you now. Bodb's Robe and Ea's Dastanas were drops. I have some SS's of the Homing Missiles if anyone would like to confirm.

What the fuck, are you serious? lol oook that's like, not even as strong as inertia stream or discharge, which do 250-300 dmg AoE but also paralyze / bind you.


Edit: OHHHH SHITTT bring back the killing gears on 4F weakens LBC theories!

How long do you think LBC would stay stunned under CS stun?

Probably about 5 seconds. After about the 2nd or 3rd successful stun, he's 90-100% resistant.

Why does my group suck at LBC lol?

How many / what strategies have you tried? What's your job setup and distribution like?

[Wulfgang]

Check pics above. 250 dmg until 25% and below at which point it scaled up to about 300. It doesn't even wipe shadows, it is seriously easier to just straight tank it and eat the Missiles and not get paraed / bound /etc.

Salvage is a joke now, we had like 3 Revitalizers again going into the fight, few Champion's drink, at least 8 Braver's drink and so on. We farmed a Rampart, killed LBC and still had 10 minutes left at the end all with 11 people.

Now only if the twat would drop Freyr's Ledelesens :/

[divisortheory]

Check pics above. 250 dmg until 25% and below at which point it scaled up to about 300. It doesn't even wipe shadows, it is seriously easier to just straight tank it and eat the Missiles and not get paraed / bound /etc.

Salvage is a joke now, we had like 3 Revitalizers again going into the fight, few Champion's drink, at least 8 Braver's drink and so on. We farmed a Rampart, killed LBC and still had 10 minutes left at the end all with 11 people.

Now only if the twat would drop Freyr's Ledelesens :/

Do you have any SS of it hitting someone with a normal meelee attack? lol. As retarded as it sounds, other people have been killing LBC since the patch, and the fact that this was not mentioned at all yet leaves me skeptical that it's a universal thing.

[Wulfgang]

Nah I dont unfortunately but it seems to be the same. Our MNK and NIN were taking 300+ a hit probably from my estimates and it still double attacked randomly. The other AOEs were about the same strength as well, doing 300-400 dmg probably. The fact Homing Missile can kill you now makes me think it is indeed patched to be a normal AOE move.

I know this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone noticed any changes to Brainjack, etc?

[divisortheory]

Nah I dont unfortunately but it seems to be the same. Our MNK and NIN were taking 300+ a hit probably from my estimates and it still double attacked randomly. The other AOEs were about the same strength as well, doing 300-400 dmg probably. The fact Homing Missile can kill you now makes me think it is indeed patched to be a normal AOE move.

I know this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone noticed any changes to Brainjack, etc?

Mortal Revolution seemed the same. Blinkable by 2-3 shadows, when it got through it would hit for around 800 with knockback.

[Deimos]

It was definitely hitting me pretty hard (on MNK), the only hit I have left in my log right now though is a 560 regular hit (with Counterstance active), right in the last few % of its life.

[Slott]

err, our LBCs homing missiles dropped everyone into the red tonight. did a 950ish one on me to start with, most certainly was not nerfed on our run, was just like normal.

edit: our homing missile never killed anyone either...strange.

[divisortheory]

like i said, time to revive the 4F gears theory!

[Almalexia]

Homing Missile was the same today as always. I would imagine the only "different" thing that you fit in before the boss was killing those gears, but they were always relevant to the rampart...

Did you kill anything else on the 4th floor? Archaic Chariot? Triple Gears?

[TB]

HM was the same for us too. You must have either triggered a glitch or a way to weaken it. Try to reproduce it.

[Enygma55]

I was in that run with the nerfed homing Missile.

Synopsis of the run:

1st Floor went west. Nothing special. No mad bomber on scan.
2nd floor went clockwise on flan. Went east ported SE.
3rd floor killed like 3 flans and ported up.
4th floor killed gears to pop rampart on east side. We did sac the triple gear + chariot room to get by. Only aggroed them.

Inside 4th rampart, 3 perytons popped 1 at around 80 another around 70 and another around 60 ( purely rough esitmates ) We killed the rampart around 50% due to time constraints. 2/3 drops on the freya body.

Homing was doing 250 dmg static it seems. The hate erase was gone. We just sat there and ate it all day thinking it was easier to handle than the regular moves. The AOE on it was still the same and it started to hit everyone including mages. Tanks went down at 6% but we just DoT kited it til death. Homing was killing a few off as it spammed it.

I sure hope this was just some disabled effect. I'd hate to see LBC without this gimmick to mess with the rookie salvage groups.

[divisortheory]

Homing Missile was the same today as always. I would imagine the only "different" thing that you fit in before the boss was killing those gears, but they were always relevant to the rampart...

Did you kill anything else on the 4th floor? Archaic Chariot? Triple Gears?

Yea, but nobody ever killed the rampart and the boss in the same run before afaik, because it was always too time consuming to kill all the gears, then the rampart.

[Almalexia]

I don't see why it would single out the 4th floor rampart as a condition to significantly gimp the greatest threat of LBC. I've done first or second floor ramparts and LBCs in three runs since the patch, and I haven't noticed weakening in any other aspects of LBC.

I can only imagine that, if that is some kind of bug, it'll be fixed this afternoon. Otherwise... time to practice pulling. 8)

[divisortheory]

I don't see why it would single out the 4th floor rampart as a condition to significantly gimp the greatest threat of LBC. I've done first or second floor ramparts and LBCs in three runs since the patch, and I haven't noticed weakening in any other aspects of LBC.

I can only imagine that, if that is some kind of bug, it'll be fixed this afternoon. Otherwise... time to practice pulling. 8)

Well the original theory was about the mobs on the 4th floor, not the rampart. In this case it just so happens they killed a lot of mobs on the 4th floor as well. It still sounds a little WTF to me, but it seems even less likely that he just glitched.

[suji]

like i said, time to revive the 4F gears theory!

yeeehaw, although I think the Homing Missiles are what makes that fight fun. ;p I was going to be sad if this was a universal nerf!

More about those 4F gears though: do you guys know if a) they sleep and b) if so, does their "time until warp" continue to go down while they are asleep? I've been trying to think of a more fool-proof way to pull them so that a bhaflau run that tries to kill them doesn't end up feeling like a complete waste. It seems like maybe Horde Lullaby with a Harp would do the trick if the above a & b are true.

[divisortheory]

like i said, time to revive the 4F gears theory!

yeeehaw, although I think the Homing Missiles are what makes that fight fun. ;p I was going to be sad if this was a universal nerf!

More about those 4F gears though: do you guys know if a) they sleep and b) if so, does their "time until warp" continue to go down while they are asleep? I've been trying to think of a more fool-proof way to pull them so that a bhaflau run that tries to kill them doesn't end up feeling like a complete waste. It seems like maybe Horde Lullaby with a Harp would do the trick if the above a & b are true.

They do sleep, not sure if the clock ticks while they're asleep, I would assume yes.

[Bleu]

Homing missle was exactly the same as always for our group as well.

[donnie]

meh salvage is turning from a challenge event , to a repatitave boring event that has sucky drop rates. DynamisXcabard HELLo!

[Bleu]

meh salvage is turning from a challenge event , to a repatitave boring event that has sucky drop rates. DynamisXcabard HELLo!

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