Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Arthars]

by the way i noticed something which i havent seen anyone talked about before.....

in the JP air muesum website thing, it indicate the rampart pop at W and E only....

makes sense since people usually kill in one direction to safe time....

Today we did E first (zzz cos BLM no magic cell to burst II it at 30% to speed up process) so we get magic cell first as E flan sucks against melee... So we eventually went E > N > W > S

and rampart pops at S

so this makes me confirmed that the rampart pop at whichever the flan dies last....

it was waterday night time 19ish when we hit the rampart, S rampart no bee NMs.. (took us 25 min earth time, somone help calculate vanadiel time we entered remnants pls)

kaylia, Which direction rampart u pop and got NMs (Kaylia entered almost same time I enter ramnants and we both together at bees as we /telled each other)

PERHAPS which rampart u enter at which day makes a diff? i duno man just came across my mind since zhalyom warp rampart is determined by day of entry

[Arthars]

not good news btw

ur local rampat can pop only 1 NM from 100%-0%

this is now confirmed lol

1/100 bee NM .....

[Amastacia]

Has anyone ever gotten multiple rmpart HQ pops when they were killing mobs so fast that they were always dead before the next one spawned?

The run where we got 4 Pephredo pops, I'm pretty sure we were mostly outpacing the Reinforcement rate. There's always times there's a bit of overlap, but for the most part we were waiting for the next summon.

[Francisco II]

not good news btw

ur local rampat can pop only 1 NM from 100%-0%

this is now confirmed lol

1/100 bee NM .....

Umm, several people have gotten ramparts to pop more than one NM.

[Kaylia]

kaylia, Which direction rampart u pop and got NMs (Kaylia entered almost same time I enter ramnants and we both together at bees as we /telled each other)

PERHAPS which rampart u enter at which day makes a diff? i duno man just came across my mind since zhalyom warp rampart is determined by day of entry

Popped East one on waterday..most likely zoned in the area on water day. I guess it would be worth nothing the day/area if it wasnt done.

Umm, several people have gotten ramparts to pop more than one NM.

He knows that, but no one ever confirmed getting a single NM pop from 100% to0%. 2 is usually the minimum you will see when they pop. It's not particularly surprising, but it's nice to know.

[Cichy]

my group fought the gate widow rampart 3 times now,
1st time we fought it 4 NMs - 1 macha's cuffs drop
2nd time 3 NM's - 0 drops
3rd time 3 NM's - 0 drops

[Slott]

did 2nd rampart yesterday no nms to 70%, did 4th rampart, 5 perytons before 50% :O
1 freya jerkin on last one
then killed rampart and went to boss, finished a morrigan robe.

;D

[Jaceot]

not good news btw

ur local rampat can pop only 1 NM from 100%-0%

this is now confirmed lol

1/100 bee NM .....

Umm, several people have gotten ramparts to pop more than one NM.

Arthars meant it is possible that the rampart will pop only 1 NM, before this it was speculated you would get multiple, or none.

[aurik]

I don't think this has been confirmed via screenshot yet:

Zachary dropping the mask
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7...romzachle4.png

[Wizerd]

I don't think this has been confirmed via screenshot yet:

Zachary dropping the mask
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7...romzachle4.png

Awesome, wiki updated.

[Arthars]

looks like many of us seeing NM recently

just pop 3 bees and 2 usu 35 feet

at last thank god

2/10 drop

10/3600 bees

4/36 ramparts that contain NM

10% pop rate, 20% drop rate atm

[Kaylia]

Grats Arthars!

[TB]

We are

1F
3/~300 Pops
0 Drops

2F
12/~500 Pops
3x Hikazu Sune-Ate

Numbers are a bit off, since we kill Rampart around 5%, so it is not always 100 pops.

[Kaylia]

On 3rd floor, the rampart will spawn on the side of the last Gears killed? Or is it random?

Also, when is it safe to nuke pudding with burst 2. I can do 5000dmg easily, but I'm scared to do it above 30%

[divisortheory]

I think instead of counting like 5/800, it would be more useful to count two numbers.

A) # of times the rampart popped nothing / # of times the rampart was fought.

B) Total # of HQ pops / Total # of times the rampart popped at least 1 HQ.

I sort of agree with others that either it's on or it's off, so it would be useful to have numbers telling you "how often is it on", and "if it's on, how many pops can you expect on average?"


Has anyone ever gotten a Gate Widow and a Pephredo (or Peryton or whatever) in the same run? Basically, has anyone gotten two different HQ spawns in the same run?

[aurik]

Yes, was verified earlier in the thread.

Monday we got 4 GW (1 Machas) and 4 Zachary (2 Freya)

[Wizerd]

On 3rd floor, the rampart will spawn on the side of the last Gears killed? Or is it random?

Also, when is it safe to nuke pudding with burst 2. I can do 5000dmg easily, but I'm scared to do it above 30%

5000 damage should knock off well over 50% of its HP if you mean the North/South 2F ones.

[Kaylia]

You can't tell it's "off" unless you killed all 100 adds tho. With rampart killed halfway, it would make it hard to keep track of the on/off ratio.

Arthars group and mine both zoned at the same time the other day (within 10 minutes), and we both got bee NM to pop on 2nd floor. It's probably just luck, but we can't really exclude a pattern either.

5000 damage should knock off well over 50% of its HP if you mean the North/South 2F ones.

Thanks. If you have 2 blm and both nuke at same time, is it going to work, or spike wear off instantly?

[Arthars]

i would say:

1. u have a 1/10 chance that a rampart contain NM on the average

2. in the 1 rampart that pop a NM, u have a chance to see 0-3 more on average

3. rampart may contain ONLY 1 NM (saw with my own eyes pop at 80% and then nothing zzz)

4. There are reports NM start popping below 50%, and even someone who got first NM at 3% (previous post)

5. The NM drop rate of the 2 35 items r "stand alone". Meaning, u can see both drop altogether

6. An rampart NM prob have much higher chance for 35 drops compare to other 35 NMs in other zone(10-30% drop rate?)

7. this shit is just random >.>

[Wizerd]

You can't tell it's "off" unless you killed all 100 adds tho. With rampart killed halfway, it would make it hard to keep track of the on/off ratio.

Arthars group and mine both zoned at the same time the other day (within 10 minutes), and we both got bee NM to pop on 2nd floor. It's probably just luck, but we can't really exclude a pattern either.

5000 damage should knock off well over 50% of its HP if you mean the North/South 2F ones.

Thanks. If you have 2 blm and both nuke at same time, is it going to work, or spike wear off instantly?

I think it's safe if both nukes hit really really close to each other, like almost instantly close to each other, but I would do it around 70%. AM2 seems to take off about 40% in my groups with fully equipped BLMs, and they do around 4000 damage, maybe 4500 not sure. Either way though if 2 good BLM nuke at 70% with spikes on it should die with spikes on. No need to nuke West/East of course, so this just applies for North/South.