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  1. #461
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    God. I hate Mad Bomber's Rampart. We've gotten dick from Gate Widow. Our only drop ever was a single Macha's Cuffs that we got on I think our third Salvage run ever when everyone was still dicking around to find stuff. Tonight was just an endless stream of chigoes with Mad Bomber finally up on the west side after 3 runs of us being unlucky.

    Meanwhile, the Flan Rampart shits out Skirmish Bees like it's got the runs. We got 4 Skirmishes again tonight (same as last farming run) and got the same drops again: 1 Skadi Mask and 1 Usukane Feet. Another LS that does Salvage on Titan clams they got like 3 Usukane Feet and a Skadi Mask from their last Flan Rampart, but I dunno if that's bullshit or what.

    It's funny cuz our last 2 Long-Armed Chariots both dropped Bodb's Cuffs which we can't use. -_-

  2. #462
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerlic
    Mad Bomber finally up on the west side after 3 runs of us being unlucky.
    It's been a while for us... it's basically just 50/50 luck, right? Not day dependent or anything?

  3. #463
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    At least you got 1 usukane shoe? lol

  4. #464
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    at least u got 2 35 drops

    its a good run already

    to be honest, able to see any Rampart NM is considered a good run

    drops wise is just luck

    got 1/5 widow drop 1 mori cuffs today 0/100 bee(again yay)

    anyway usukane feet and morri cuffs r the more common drops from their respective NM

    murduk pants and skadi mask r the rarer ones

    but yea the 50/50 WE thing suck, but hey widow pops more often than bees

  5. #465
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Well, I'm not saying that I wish we didn't get what we got. I know that getting 2 35s off of one run is good considering Salvage drop rates. If you're still scratching your head about why this guy is complaining about getting more Usu Feet and Skadi Mask, look at my jobs in my sig. Here's a hint: This is how often I use my jobs - RDM > BRD > BLM >>>>>>>>>>> MNK >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RNG.

    I'm mainly just frustrated that we went 3 runs in a row without seeing Mad Bomber and when he's finally up we get no Widows. I really do think that's there's a pattern or some kind of predetermined factor on if a rampart spawns 35 dropping NMs or not because it doesn't really seem random.

  6. #466
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2


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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    I'm starting to think that Mad Bomber is not "either up on the east or the west" and you just have to pick the right one, but rather that it's just random when you zone in. If it were either on the east or the west, it should be 50%. It seems more like 20% in my experience from always going west. Does anyone always go east? If so, what's your Mad Bomber rate going east?

  8. #468
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Maybe I'm ignorant, but why would ANYONE go east?

  9. #469
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Quote Originally Posted by divisortheory
    I'm starting to think that Mad Bomber is not "either up on the east or the west" and you just have to pick the right one, but rather that it's just random when you zone in. If it were either on the east or the west, it should be 50%. It seems more like 20% in my experience from always going west. Does anyone always go east? If so, what's your Mad Bomber rate going east?
    It's been about 40-45% for us as far as I can remember. Maybe closer to 50%. Our last 4 LBCs I'm pretty sure it was up twice and down twice.

  10. #470
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    First time we seen it pop tonight, after 8 months... I exagerate a little, not to mean we have been hunting this one NM for 8 months solid, BUT!

    http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...rini/skirm.jpg

    1/1 on Pop and Drop. lol

    Another 2 popped, but 0 drops :/

    3/2200 NMs <.< At least now we know that they exist...

  11. #471
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    holy shit i got 5 bees to pop yesterday

    0 drops

    this is the most insane night ever, TH4 too

  12. #472
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    as for going east

    its not a bad idea anymore because u can get early stats cells and just skip 2F scorpions altogether

    save some time if u get lucky on cells u need, but not recommended on large pt though

    6-7 man should work better

  13. #473
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    fu arthars we still havent seen any NMs cept that one time




    j/k i still <3 arthars

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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    My (small) group has been spamming this area in an attempt to get Lv35 Usukane feet from the omgBeez, but we've had no luck so far ... we never even see bee NM's let alone actually get the drop. An unexpected side effect of spamming this run was seeing Mad Bomber up and getting Lv35 Marduk pants and two pairs of Lv35 Morrigan hands from it. Pleasant surprise that was, no doubt. ^_^

    My group is definitely having trouble with LBC though. We haven't fought him for some time, and we've since fought and beaten Long-Armed Chariot once, so I know we have the basics down. When we go for LBC, we usually bring a couple more people, say, 8-10. Usually we have a MNK/NIN or two tanking and a WAR/NIN meleeing. Other than that, we just have the front line's support (BRD, RDM and WHM), myself on BLM, and possibly a RNG and some other support. It's not LBC's TP moves that are getting us, it's his massive "melee" damage. He just seems to double-attack and triple-attack too much for us to handle.

    Anyone have any recommendations on what we could do to have a better shot at this? Our MNK/NIN's are not fully meritted, but they've handled LAC before, like I said. The WAR can also come as PLD/NIN (he's pretty decked out), and one of the MNK's could come THF/SAM or THF/anything for TA.

    Thanks in advance for any advice you guys can offer. >.>/

    *edit* Nevermind, I just read through some of the other LBC topics and we pretty much follow those to a T. Without more practice, I guess we're just SOL.

  15. #475
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Quote Originally Posted by Arkanna
    Anyone have any recommendations on what we could do to have a better shot at this? Our MNK/NIN's are not fully meritted, but they've handled LAC before, like I said. The WAR can also come as PLD/NIN (he's pretty decked out), and one of the MNK's could come THF/SAM or THF/anything for TA.
    Kill the gears on L4 to nerf Homing Missile.
    Kill the L4 Chariot as well if you have time (JP in my shell swear the JP community have shown it nerfs the both the bosses movement speed (meh) and defense boost (much nicer) although this hasn't shown up on Wiki). We try to get a rampart done as well during a boss run, so we don't take the time to do the chariot...

  16. #476
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambir
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkanna
    Anyone have any recommendations on what we could do to have a better shot at this? Our MNK/NIN's are not fully meritted, but they've handled LAC before, like I said. The WAR can also come as PLD/NIN (he's pretty decked out), and one of the MNK's could come THF/SAM or THF/anything for TA.
    Kill the gears on L4 to nerf Homing Missile.
    Kill the L4 Chariot as well if you have time (JP in my shell swear the JP community have shown it nerfs the both the bosses movement speed (meh) and defense boost (much nicer) although this hasn't shown up on Wiki). We try to get a rampart done as well during a boss run, so we don't take the time to do the chariot...
    Any proof to the defense bonus? That would be worth the time...since it's defense boosts at low HP.

  17. #477
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Proof that its defense raises at low HP?

  18. #478
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Quote Originally Posted by Tulun
    Quote Originally Posted by Ambir
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkanna
    Anyone have any recommendations on what we could do to have a better shot at this? Our MNK/NIN's are not fully meritted, but they've handled LAC before, like I said. The WAR can also come as PLD/NIN (he's pretty decked out), and one of the MNK's could come THF/SAM or THF/anything for TA.
    Kill the gears on L4 to nerf Homing Missile.
    Kill the L4 Chariot as well if you have time (JP in my shell swear the JP community have shown it nerfs the both the bosses movement speed (meh) and defense boost (much nicer) although this hasn't shown up on Wiki). We try to get a rampart done as well during a boss run, so we don't take the time to do the chariot...
    Any proof to the defense bonus? That would be worth the time...since it's defense boosts at low HP.
    POIDH

  19. #479
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    Don't confuse "defense bonus at low HP" with "things get a little crazy and we don't get Minuet anymore because the BRD is dead/LBC is moving/lol im suposed 2 stun wut?"

  20. #480
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    Re: Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

    I pretty much solo tanked an un-nerfed LBC MNK/NIN from 99% to 3% last night. It didn't get HM off once, until the very end when the BLMs Manafonted - which wasn't until 7 or 8% anyway.

    The most reliable way to counteract HM is to have Erase being cast the instant LBC uses Inertia Stream.

    Also, I merited Counter from 0 to 4 since our last LBC, and the difference is quite huge (Counterstance was up... countered maybe 75-80% of hits, reg. melee hits did 550ish, crits did 750ish... I had about 2350 HP thanks to a Body Boost). I was never in red HP, except for the Homing Missile that went off at 3%.

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