Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Mojo]

We can do the gears fine with our normal group of 6. BRD, RDM, WHM, THF, MNK, MNK. We don't bother with skillchains or anything fancy, just melee and spam WS at 100% like normal. I pull out Joyeuse on RDM for this. It is possible to do without, but having that moderate amount of extra damage seems to take all of the risk out of it, at least for our group. Pulling the gears without linking is the most difficult part.

[cdgreg]

We can do the gears fine with our normal group of 6. BRD, RDM, WHM, THF, MNK, MNK. We don't bother with skillchains or anything fancy, just melee and spam WS at 100% like normal. I pull out Joyeuse on RDM for this. It is possible to do without, but having that moderate amount of extra damage seems to take all of the risk out of it, at least for our group. Pulling the gears without linking is the most difficult part.

Out of curiosity, approximately how long does it take on average to pull/kill all the gears? And what % of the time are you successful, as in not pulling a link/having them disappear.

[Mojo]

I've only messed it up once on one gear, although it was my first time pulling gears when that happened. They die moderately fast so the time it takes to go through all ten mostly depends on how easily the gears want to be safely pulled. I'll try and see how long it takes start to finish to do all ten next time. We can easily manage one full rampart(two if we blazed through everything perfectly, but that has yet to happen) and LBC in a single run while always doing the gears this way, if that gives you some kind of rough estimate.

[Judai]

The gears are pretty easy to pull, although so stressfull for me, lol.. Takes us about 20m or so when I am able to pull quick. A bit closer to 30m if the gears don't cooperate and path together. Once you get the first gear out of those 3 gear rooms, it's simple. Unless ppl afk or goof off, the gears go down rather easy also. The only times we failed were due to people afking, like our BRD, and one time the weather changed to Wind AS I pulled the gear and the other two in the room just warped out. Think I'm like 6/9 or so on 10/10 pulls(maybe more, don't usually keep track), usually the fuck ups are on the first set or two because people not paying attention.

Also, if possible, Angon pwns them. Most ppl lol@DRG but every Angon'd gear is an easy kill. I usually alternate my Penance Chi with our DRG's Angon so one gear dies in seconds and the next won't use any TP moves.

[Lyramion]

Sooo.. we just did Baf. Mad Bomber was up.. woo!


Killed it and after 3 Chigoe we had a Spider pop. Then we had 2 more Spiders pop at about 12% more HP each of the Rampart. but suddenly after around 60% we had no more fucking spiders till 0%. Seems really strange since it seemed a "Good Mood" Rampart.

What I noted was that it has been light day (was joking about repose and sleeping) and what a coincidence.... at around 60% also the day changed to Dark Day. Seems very suspicious to me.

:ashira:

[Scion]

Forgive me for skimming through the numerous pages and asking this, but it seems like most of the discussions on this thread have been about Skirmish Pephredos and LBC tactics... Has anyone managed to successfully pop the 3F rampart and have seen Deimos's gauntlets drop let alone even seen Zebra Zachary spawn? Pics would be awesome if it could be provided, thanks.

[Thefrost]

ya scion lol its just that rampart seems nicer to everyone i've talked to and all my shells' runs. Also, everyone loves usu feet while ares normally beggin me for arrap (we do 3 split runs). Skadi head drops from 2nd and 3rd and so they'd rather do 1st,2nd,4th ramparts anyway (4th drops body).

You just have to kill the 2 triple gears at the "same" time (like within 5 secs of eachother). Put your good pullers on each side and when one has a open pull grab that one and everyone go kill it to around 5%. then have someone sleep + grav/bind whatever babysit it for a few mins while you kill the other triple gear to around 5%. If you have a blm then a ele seal blizzaga 3 will kill them same time just sleep them first. If not you can just put a melee on each and try to time it. Also sometimes we'll have a rng or a sam and they can 2hr one as soon as the other dies.

Also the zebra seems to pop a lot more often according to me and to EVERYONE i've talked to. I'm sure there's some ppl it hasn't been this way for but I really do believe its better pop rate than the 2nd. Also if you doin a 6man run make sure your group has an ok set up. We did a farmin run one night really late with 5 and horrible set up and wiped after about 10 mins of it lol. It was really only cause of our set up though and a mage goin afk lol. I've done that rampart many times though and seen several drops. Also with right jobs can still duo/trio that ramparts' pops pretty easy.

[Bleu]

last bhaf we went 0/6 on that zebra. I assure you that he pops.

[Nynaeve]

In regards to the 3F gears, what is the maximum amount of time between kills and still have the rampart pop? Or is it really so close that you just have to have a BLM -ga them down?

[Hyan]

In regards to the 3F gears, what is the maximum amount of time between kills and still have the rampart pop? Or is it really so close that you just have to have a BLM -ga them down?

Around 5 secs for my group (can be longer though, that's the longest it has taken for us so far). We never used BLM to kill them off

[Wizerd]

In regards to the 3F gears, what is the maximum amount of time between kills and still have the rampart pop? Or is it really so close that you just have to have a BLM -ga them down?

Think Ying/Yang, without the second/third/fourth+ chances if you fuck up. It takes him around 10 seconds to summon the other if you don't kill them close together, maybe about 15. Rampart is similar.

[Seditedi]

We found BLM isn't necessary, it can get annoying due to restoral but generally we will just take one down to roughly 10% then sleep it and repeat on the other, timed nuke Blizzard IIIs from our 2 RDM worked well after that.

Btw, what actually determines where the rampart pops?

[aurik]

We found BLM isn't necessary, it can get annoying due to restoral but generally we will just take one down to roughly 10% then sleep it and repeat on the other, timed nuke Blizzard IIIs from our 2 RDM worked well after that.

Btw, what actually determines where the rampart pops?

Pops on the side of the last gear to die. We regularly pop it using melee damage: take both to 5-10%, then just hold TP and WS the 2nd after the first dies.

[Wizerd]

We found BLM isn't necessary, it can get annoying due to restoral but generally we will just take one down to roughly 10% then sleep it and repeat on the other, timed nuke Blizzard IIIs from our 2 RDM worked well after that.

Btw, what actually determines where the rampart pops?

Pops on the side of the last gear to die. We regularly pop it using melee damage: take both to 5-10%, then just hold TP and WS the 2nd after the first dies.

This is what we do, and I find this much more reliable than BLM or RDM kills. Especially RDMs since they can get resisted easier, but even BLMs have their odd resist, whereas a melee using a 5 hit or 8 hit WS at 95% accuracy is gonna have a much, much, much lower chance killing the gear. I try to bring it to about 2-3% when I do it by having everyone else turn at 5-10% and then just fighting it down myself.

[Agrona]

Forgive me for skimming through the numerous pages and asking this, but it seems like most of the discussions on this thread have been about Skirmish Pephredos and LBC tactics... Has anyone managed to successfully pop the 3F rampart and have seen Deimos's gauntlets drop let alone even seen Zebra Zachary spawn? Pics would be awesome if it could be provided, thanks.

Yes, he pops and yes, he drops Deimos's Gauntlets.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...215_004926.png

[cdgreg]

lol wow, I thought it was just a regular dorp pic until I noticed the treasure pool...

[Kaylia]

Havent done it in months, but how people do 3rd floor pull? Wait for a clean pull, or just sleepga/logout add?

[Seditedi]

You can't sleepga.
The triple gears that pop the rampart do sleep pretty easily, but the adds are completely immune to light/dark based sleep.
You can wait for a clean pull or just pull it and deaggro the adds if you have 12% movement.

[Kitha]

You can wait for a clean pull or just pull it and deaggro the adds if you have 12% movement.

^ cleanest/fastest way to do it in my experience

[Technicolor]

Yes, he pops and yes, he drops Deimos's Gauntlets.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...215_004926.png

My salvage group has recently been working on the 3f rampart in hopes to assuage the ppl 2/3 on Ares hands. Yet through our numerous attempts we have yet to see ZZ pop. I have heard a few ideas about a certain PH out of the 5 pops for Skirmish, and I was wondering if there was anything special that your crew had done to see two pops let alone two drops, or did you just demolish any or all colibri?

Another idea was brought up about possibly having to kill colibri simultaneously, as we had done with the triple gears to enter. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.