Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Uzor]

we saw 7 bees once, that was pretty much the only time we saw bees lol. only 1 drop >.>

That's not true <.<; We've had 13 Skirmish pops total <.<;

On the contrary, 41 Gate Widows, 7 Zebra Zachary, and 4 Perytons >.<; Luckily, no one needs Zebra Zachary nor Gate Widow, hence why we do 2F > 4F > boss, heh. Out of 54 total 35 drops, 15 are from Bhaflau. That's a bit over 1/4 of all the drops we've got. That's the same amount of drops we've got from Arrapago, which we've done at least twice as much. All zones we've got between 11 and 15 drops in.

While I agree Bhaflau ramparts can act weird, and as much as I hope there's a way to improve NM pop rate, I somehow doubt there is. From the statistics I've kept since we first started, the drop rates for us are roughly
Bhaflau: 20,5%
Silver Sea: 8,3%
Arrapago: 7,8%
Zhayolm: 34%

With the somewhat high drop rate Bhaflau have, and the amount of NM's that can pop from a single rampart, it really evens out. Bhaflau comes slightly ahead of the others. Zhayolm is an exception that just seem to be overall broken for us.

[Uzor]

When you say you killed all 10, you killed those ones in the room with the chariot and not the ones on the other side of it? You don't need to kill any of the gears in the room with the chariot, they don't do anything. I never port up West so I don't know if it's the same, but on East when you port up there'll be a room with 3 gears then a room with 2 gears. Then you'll get to a room with a chariot and gears, and you need to hug the wall to get past this room without aggroing. Then you'll get to a room with 2 gears and then another room with 3 more gears. Kill all those and Homing Missile should do 200-300 damage all the time and no hate reset.

Read his post, he said he killed the 10 "Single-gears" and didn't touch any of the triple gears, which would be the ones in the room with the chariot.

My best guess would be you missed a gear or 2 due to warping and you didn't notice, was it windsday when you pulled them?

Easy way to check.

Did rampart pop?
Yes - strange
No - Normal

[Francisco II]

We've haven't seen Mad Bomber in several runs... nor have we seen a Skirmish Pephredo.

In over 15 LBC kills, we have seen 0 Bobd's Robes.

There was a time where we saw Skirmish Pephredo on a regular basis, and Mad Bomber was up nearly every run - then things just went completely dead.

I have noticed that we've typically seen Skirmish Pephredo a lot more frequently when Mad Bomber was up, and have never seen Skirmish Pephredo when Mad Bomber is not present.

I'm fully convinced there's SOMETHING to this zone we're missing - possibly related to:

- Party leaders or party members performing a certain action.
- A certain combination of jobs.
- A certain combination of genders and/or races.

It could be something like "on earthsday, the person with the highest VIT needs to open the door" - Fire/STR, Light/CHR, Thunder/DEX, Dark/MP... etc

[Kalendor]

When you say you killed all 10, you killed those ones in the room with the chariot and not the ones on the other side of it? You don't need to kill any of the gears in the room with the chariot, they don't do anything. I never port up West so I don't know if it's the same, but on East when you port up there'll be a room with 3 gears then a room with 2 gears. Then you'll get to a room with a chariot and gears, and you need to hug the wall to get past this room without aggroing. Then you'll get to a room with 2 gears and then another room with 3 more gears. Kill all those and Homing Missile should do 200-300 damage all the time and no hate reset.

We killed a bunch in the first two rooms you bump into, then skip triple gears + chariot, then killed another bunch in the following room and ported up.

Oh well, probably a SE-bug

[Kalendor]

Easy way to check.

Did rampart pop?
Yes - strange
No - Normal

Yeah good point, I thought about that but we were short on time and I didn't know where it popped so we just beamed ourselves up

[Wizerd]

Easy way to check.

Did rampart pop?
Yes - strange
No - Normal

Yeah good point, I thought about that but we were short on time and I didn't know where it popped so we just beamed ourselves up

That means it probably didn't pop. It pops in the room with the last 3 gears and is quite noticable. I think you'd have seen it.

You probably successfully killed 9 and accidentally had 1 warp without noticing.

[Kalendor]

That means it probably didn't pop. It pops in the room with the last 3 gears and is quite noticable. I think you'd have seen it.

You probably successfully killed 9 and accidentally had 1 warp without noticing.

Probably what happened ... 9/10 makes that much of a difference on boss ?

[Wizerd]

That means it probably didn't pop. It pops in the room with the last 3 gears and is quite noticable. I think you'd have seen it.

You probably successfully killed 9 and accidentally had 1 warp without noticing.

Probably what happened ... 9/10 makes that much of a difference on boss ?

Makes hate reset just on the target or something as far as I know, but may depend on WHICH gear warped.

[Uzor]

That means it probably didn't pop. It pops in the room with the last 3 gears and is quite noticable. I think you'd have seen it.

You probably successfully killed 9 and accidentally had 1 warp without noticing.

Probably what happened ... 9/10 makes that much of a difference on boss ?

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

[Kalendor]

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

noob question, the chariot link with those triple gears?

[Uzor]

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

noob question, the chariot link with those triple gears?

Yes. Its easy to pull it safely though.

[Wizerd]

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

noob question, the chariot link with those triple gears?

Yes. Its easy to pull it safely though.

I think of the chariot like the single warping gears in the other rooms:

It can be easy to pull (and usually is), but I'll be damned if it isn't always hanging around 2-3 other triples in link range for the longest time whenever we're tight on time.

[Uzor]

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

noob question, the chariot link with those triple gears?

Yes. Its easy to pull it safely though.

I think of the chariot like the single warping gears in the other rooms:

It can be easy to pull (and usually is), but I'll be damned if it isn't always hanging around 2-3 other triples in link range for the longest time whenever we're tight on time.

That's when you have someone suicide pull it

[Lilswitche]

Yeah, makes a lot of difference. Weakened LBC is a pussy. 9/10 is only slightly easier then an unweakened one. You should kill the chariot as well, makes him noticeably easier.

noob question, the chariot link with those triple gears?

Yes. Its easy to pull it safely though.

I think of the chariot like the single warping gears in the other rooms:

It can be easy to pull (and usually is), but I'll be damned if it isn't always hanging around 2-3 other triples in link range for the longest time whenever we're tight on time.

That's when you have someone suicide pull it

I agree. If I see maybe 1 triple around the chariot, I might wait the 30 seconds or so to see if I can safely pull it. Any more than 1 and I'll just sack it asap. Only xp after all.

[Bleu]

We've haven't seen Mad Bomber in several runs... nor have we seen a Skirmish Pephredo.

In over 15 LBC kills, we have seen 0 Bobd's Robes.

There was a time where we saw Skirmish Pephredo on a regular basis, and Mad Bomber was up nearly every run - then things just went completely dead.

I have noticed that we've typically seen Skirmish Pephredo a lot more frequently when Mad Bomber was up, and have never seen Skirmish Pephredo when Mad Bomber is not present.

I'm fully convinced there's SOMETHING to this zone we're missing...

I agree completely, and my group is in the same boat. We used to see MB up on a regular basis, but in the last 2 months we've only seem him about 4/20 times. Statistically, it seems highly improbable that this is just chance. We have also went scoring 4 sune-ate in a short time to not seeing anything for 2 months. It feels like something has changed, but I'm sure it's just us doing something different.

This is stupid, but I can only think of one thing really different. We're entering with a lot less people nowdays. We used to do bhaf with 12-15 people; and lately we do bhaf with 6-10 people.

On a side note, we had two groups enter Bhaf at the same time today. Neither group had Mad Bomber up (evidence that Bomber could be based on some common thing). More interesting though is that one group had multiple Skirmish Phredo pops (no drop), but the other group had none (evidence that NMs popping aren't a factor of day/time/moon/etc)

[Theenabler]

Did a run the other day, entered on earthsday, i entered us as brd, MB up, claimed rampart with elegy, 4 gate widows, no drops. Floor 2 rampart claimed with elegy again, 2 pephredo pops, no drops. Third floor rampart claimed with elegy, 2 zacharys, no drops, timed out at 50%

Yay for shit drop rates.

[Xanthe]

I swear, we haven't seen Zebra Zachary pop in at least 4 months and no more than 3 times overall. Sitting at 4/5 Ares with 2/3 (yes lol15 and lol25) hands, mats, and coins is getting depressing. ZZ and Powderkeg in SS seem to be our biggest stew. We're always in Salvage between Thundersday and Darksday though, so that may have something to do with our "luck". Need to schedule some Saturday/Sunday afternoon Salvage runs.

[Black]

i think we did 3rd rampart once we got 3 zebra pops 2 hands and 1mask droped,i were the only one who wanted it other one went free lot...but we have very bad luck with having MB up and we havent seen any Skirmish in last 7-8 runs

[Tsukuyomi]

i think we did 3rd rampart once we got 3 zebra pops 2 hands and 1mask droped,i were the only one who wanted it other one went free lot...but we have very bad luck with having MB up and we havent seen any Skirmish in last 7-8 runs

Well we just broke the trend with 6 Gate Widows, and 5 Pephredos D: Still can't believe it since we hadn't seen any NM in the past maaany runs, and it's also the first time we see more than one rampart spawning NMs in the same run x_x Widows dropped 1 Macha and 1 Enlil, and Pephredos 2 Freya's. Luckiest Bhaflau ever for us!

[Uzor]

For the last month, every Bhaflau run has had Wind Weather up pretty much 100% of the time... occasionally it wears off, but it goes right up again after 1 min...