Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Xaetica]

I Would like to propose a theory based on very very loose observations. Our Salvage group has been 100% on mad bomber popping up. And when I mean 100% I mean we always got it. We have had something like 5-6 marduk legs drop and have 4-5 morrigan hands on our set (and some more on people who come once in a while). We have done Bhaflau maybe 40 times total (no more then that because we rotate our zones).

Everyone after a while mentioned how we always get mad bomber and there must be something to it. Well, after a while I did notice one thing. Just out of complete superstition I always take us in when the balls up top are glowing green (they oscillate between red and green very quickly). Every run, not just Bhaflau I take us in by pressing "yes" when the balls up top are in green. Well, I decided to check if this might have a link to mad bomber, so the last two runs I took us in when they were red and both those times mad bomber was not up.

This is not in any way enough of a sample size to say for sure this is what pops Mad Bomber (maybe red pops him on the east side), but I am posting here so that others can possible test this theory and confirm or bust the myth.

Anyway, do with this information as you like. If this was posted already on like page 12, sorry and ignore it.

[Khrno]

You have a weird idea there Xaetica, it does seem too farfetched, but we are like 1/20 on MB pops, and since I'm the one that always starts them, then I'll check the lights just for the sake of it.

[Shassira]

So I read this and i actualy logged and walked down there to check the lights because i had never noticed they changed colors >> After seeing the swap rate they have though, i'm highly skeptical about it. I guess it's worth a try, but my main concern is that this is basicly a kirin teleporter style thing and makes me think of the synchronization problems something like this would have between server and game. Either way, since there's nothing else to try out, i'll give it a shot next run.

[cdgreg]

clicked yes when light was green last night, MB was up west



also had 2 useful drops from LBC to complete 2 more pieces, usukane legs and skadi feet /cheer

[ringthree]

clicked yes when light was green last night, MB was up west



also had 2 useful drops from LBC to complete 2 more pieces, usukane legs and skadi feet /cheer

Oh nice, who got them? ^.^

[cdgreg]

clicked yes when light was green last night, MB was up west



also had 2 useful drops from LBC to complete 2 more pieces, usukane legs and skadi feet /cheer

Oh nice, who got them? ^.^

tabasheer - usukane - well deserved, has been doing salvage with us forever
fezzick - skadi

we've been incredibly lucky with arrapago's archaic chariot lately, last week alone we had 4 35's from the archaic chariot with one double drop. Starting to spam LBC since we have something like 6-7 pieces just needing the 25. btw i'm still looking forward to your W chariot kill parse!

[cdgreg]

clicked yes while light was green again, MB up W again...

[Chupunpupun]

Popped mad bomber west 3/3 using the above trick. My guess is that red = east and green = west.

[Aburu]

Do you anticipate when the lights are going to turn green or do you push ok at the moment you see it green?

[chapstick]

>_> interesting. Anyone notice if this effects Skirmish too >.>? we need some sune-ate's lol.

[Kaylia]

MB popped last night when I tried, but it always had high spawn rate when I was the one going in (used to be close to 100% for my first group).


#1 Is the light even synchronized between each players? Wouldnt surprise me if it was synchronized to when you enter the zone.

#2 What's the probability that i entered 20 times + in a row on the green light? An event with 50% on/off could only lead to a pretty bell curve, but that's not what we see between every group.

[Chupunpupun]

Didn't anticipate at all, just hit "yes" the last notification when i see green.

[Shassira]

MB popped last night when I tried, but it always had high spawn rate when I was the one going in (used to be close to 100% for my first group).


#1 Is the light even synchronized between each players? Wouldn't surprise me if it was synchronized to when you enter the zone.

#2 What's the probability that i entered 20 times + in a row on the green light? An event with 50% on/off could only lead to a pretty bell curve, but that's not what we see between every group.

On individual groups, definitely not, but in a general view we would probably see the correct distribution. My point is that a set of 20 tries isn't really a big set and there's many reports of people having abysmal luck too.

I'm not trying to defend the light theory thing, i'm just saying that i do believe that we could see a natural 50% if we analyzed the really really big picture (hundreds of runs properly documented would help of course ). Our personal rate, although not documented, is pretty balanced.

As for the light thing, my concerns about synchronization are the same as yours, although it's possible that, assuming this would be a factor, the information on the state of that flag is sent from the client side, so the synchro issues would really not matter.
Finally, side note is that i've tried this twice now and both times we've seen MB west, but of course that means nothing more than that we've seen it twice in a row. I'll keep on trying since there is nothing more to do until i see no pop

[Kaylia]

The sample isn't big, but it's still a 1 in a million chance to get it right 20 times in a row. If I was the only person who had similar lucky streak, I would agree it might have been luck, but I doubt you could explain every samples with a normal statistic distribution

[Suiram]

Since we weren't going to 1F rampart tonight, I tried to take us in when it was red, to see if that would mean MB would not be up on west side. I tried my best to time it when it was at its reddest (the lower-right circle was red and it cast a red hue on the unlit circles) and by coincidence it was also red when we got the "order to invade" message. However, Mad Bomber was up on the west side.

I still think it's the Galkas.

[tymora]

Suiram, try the reverse. Maybe different people is bound to different colors

[Suiram]

Well, it wasn't a run with my static, I was tagging along with Naver's group. Our group never has never had any Mad Bomber issues since we have a Galka.

[Wolfknight]

Well, it wasn't a run with my static, I was tagging along with Naver's group. Our group never has never had any Mad Bomber issues since we have a Galka.

really?, mad bomber always seemed to pop when our galka memeber didn't make the run.

[Suiram]

Clearly your Galka is inferior to ours.

[ringthree]

clicked yes when light was green last night, MB was up west



also had 2 useful drops from LBC to complete 2 more pieces, usukane legs and skadi feet /cheer

Oh nice, who got them? ^.^

tabasheer - usukane - well deserved, has been doing salvage with us forever
fezzick - skadi

we've been incredibly lucky with arrapago's archaic chariot lately, last week alone we had 4 35's from the archaic chariot with one double drop. Starting to spam LBC since we have something like 6-7 pieces just needing the 25. btw i'm still looking forward to your W chariot kill parse!

Well, we need to go to Bhaflau for Akanea's Usukane legs but he got hacked earlier this week. >.< So we won't be going there again until he gets back or we get another Arrapago drop, but right now we are focusing on Zhayolm to finish an Usukane head. LOL So, hope SE moves quick to get Akanea's account back.

Edit: Akanea got his account back today, so we might actually be able to test it out.