Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[oldoldman]

I know this is with a bit of overkill on people, and yes it was fully nerfed by chariot and 10 gears, but Goddamn.





4 min from SV to death. Actually engaged and fighting about 3 min 20 seconds.

And what you can't see is the 10 min warning before any of these pictures.

You make silly /echos that no one else can see. That made me smile. also, MAKE AN INT CHECK!

[Xanthu]

You make silly /echos that no one else can see. That made me smile. also, MAKE AN INT CHECK!

I could never tell the difference on some macros of just "Ice" or whatever. With what I have, I don't even need to really read it to differentiate it.

[Kaia]

4 min from SV to death. Actually engaged and fighting about 3 min 20 seconds.

This is probably the only thing I enjoy about all of Bhaflau, lol. Our best kill was about the same kill time - MNK MNK BRD COR RDM WHM. Both monks had body boost, revitalizer, and fanatic drinks all mages had mana boost. SV minuets, 2x hundred fists, revitalizer, 2x hundred fists, COR 2hr restores all JA, 2x hundred fists, win.

Back on topic (sorta). I've tested and debunked every rampart theory I've heard of or seen. Just stick with it - my group went about 3 months before we saw anything drop from bhaflau, then we got 6 35s in one weekend. Just stick with it - if you can beat the demoralizing drop rate of Bhaflau or any other salvage zone then you'll eventually get what you need.

On bosses... bosses definitely always seem to drop the things you don't need. We did 10-15 LACs before we got usu feet... as Hanyoko said, many many LBCs until we got skadi feet (though we got tons of ares body 25... while a friend of mine has been needing that 25 for almost a year), and we've been trying to get marduk body and skadi legs from arrapago boss for almost 3 months now (For the record, sitting on 15/35 body with 12 imp.wootz ingots in MH for 3 months really, really, really sucks).

[erra]

God F LBC
Last 5 runs
Skadi Feet & Bodbs Robe
Skadi Feet & Bodbs Robe
Skadi Feet & Bodbs Robe
2x Ea's
Skadi Feet & Bodbs Robe

Usukane or Ares please.

Our last 10 LBC kills have resulted in
1 Phobos's Cuirass
9 Phobos's Mask
1- Tsukikazu Haidate
6- Ea's Dastanas
3- Bodb's Crown
0- Bod's Robe
0- Freyr's Feet
And we have 2 people waiting for feet and one for body to finish their pieces.

Not to mention we haven't seen Skirmish Pephredo for 25/26 runs and we farm the bees every time we go in BR. Other wiki says the more people you have, the more chances of the the bee popping you get, sound pretty LOL to me. Has anyone noticed any pattern like that in NM's Pop rates? If yes I'd gladly take 12 instead of our usual 6-7 people in there to kill the bees.

[Shassira]

Has anyone noticed any pattern like that in NM's Pop rates? If yes I'd gladly take 12 instead of our usual 6-7 people in there to kill the bees.

Almost a year ago when we started doing this, we used to go with 10-11 people to every zone. Bhaf was the one we did most, we would target boss and 4F rampart always. I believe we did around 10 or so runs before we actualy started spliting, and in all this time we only saw one single Peryton drop (which droped nothing ).

So from my experience, it does nothing. That said, there's a couple instances in the game where the amount of people or the amount of parties in the alliance affect the way things unfold. I wouldn't have been surprissed to find such gimmick somewhere in Salvage, although ramparts just don't seem to fit.

[rithridan]

Bhaflau Remnants is just such a huge cocktease, 90% of the time it doesn't even pop any NMs and when it does pop 3 damn bees we still get no drops whatsoever (gogo droprate!). And to top it all off you get weather on 4th floor to fuck up your gears/nerfing and then continue to play russian roullete with LBC. Nothing beats having the first 30% go great having 'normal' 2, 3 or even 4-hit 3rd eyes to have the MNK go down after a missiles and solo tanking on SAM getting a fucked up 1-hit 3rd eye 3 times in a row.

[Kalendor]

Sorry about the noob question, but where do people usually farm their stat cells in Bhaflau for max efficiency? (or do people even bother? I kinda like STR/DEX/VIT for gears and/or boss, we go with 6 only).

[pchan]

Sorry about the noob question, but where do people usually farm their stat cells in Bhaflau for max efficiency? (or do people even bother? I kinda like STR/DEX/VIT for gears and/or boss, we go with 6 only).

Near the 4 pudding on 2F there are 2 rooms of scorpions and troll and they drop stats. We always clear them both if we go for boss / or 4F rampart.

[Kalendor]

Ah yeah, you're talking about the 2 small rooms going East. Good idea, thanks.

Near the 4 pudding on 2F there are 2 rooms of scorpions and troll and they drop stats. We always clear them both if we go for boss / or 4F rampart.

[Kaylia]

We never clear more than 1 room, unless Salvage's gods are against us and less than 5 HP cells dropped (not that you need more than 2-3 hp cells, would just rather play it safe than lose people to aoe).

[Kaiyoko]

Has anyone tested day/time/moon etc. with the 2nd floor since you can enter in 4 directions depending on the flan you kill last and where you pop in the rampart room? I think I've tried every side even the 1st flan you come to last with my group and have yet to see a bee NM in the last 15 runs @.@

[Darkmoon]

Has anyone tested day/time/moon etc. with the 2nd floor since you can enter in 4 directions depending on the flan you kill last and where you pop in the rampart room? I think I've tried every side even the 1st flan you come to last with my group and have yet to see a bee NM in the last 15 runs @.@

When in doubt, use a Galka.....

I typically enter us into the Ramparts, and we hadent seen a bee in probaly 10 2nd floors. Then we let our Galka enter us, and we got 7 Bees, and 3 drops. Next run we let him again and got 3 bees and 1 drop. So we use the galka method now!

Honestly imo, use what ever placebo works for you. If there is a set pattern to it, its so detailed and messed up that just randomly entering it will work eventually ._.

[Kaiyoko]

When in doubt, use a Galka.....

I typically enter us into the Ramparts, and we hadent seen a bee in probaly 10 2nd floors. Then we let our Galka enter us, and we got 7 Bees, and 3 drops. Next run we let him again and got 3 bees and 1 drop. So we use the galka method now!

Honestly imo, use what ever placebo works for you. If there is a set pattern to it, its so detailed and messed up that just randomly entering it will work eventually ._.

Sadly anytime I have seen it, there was no galka.

[Arximiro]

I was curious if any of you guys knew where to find some good maps for this run. The ones on the wiki are quite lacking compared to the other salvage maps in details. I am curious as to which room on the east and west path that Mad Bomber spawns since this isn't marked. I'm guessing it is either ther f-10 or g-8 room on the west path. Thanks for any info.

[Crizto]

Here's a good map: http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Image:BhaflauRemnants1F.jpg

[Arximiro]

Wow thanks that is a great map, I'll have to check out the BG Wiki.

[Fyrebrand]

my group is going on close to 40 runs of this zone no Skirmish sightings i cannot think of what we are doing wrong...

[Arximiro]

my group is going on close to 40 runs of this zone no Skirmish sightings i cannot think of what we are doing wrong...

Jesus Christ, we just did the first Bhaf for our SP and he popped 6 times in one run. It seems like some ppl have over the top bad luck while other have good, is there no median?

[Aragon of Odin]

In the few runs I've done for this I've never not had at least one pop for me. The most I've seen was five in a single run which resulted in 1 Skadi Head, and I've seen 2 Usu feet drop from 3 pops in 1 run. I see a lot less Gate Widows then I do Skirmish's, altho doesn't bother me at all, if only he would put out more.

[Marzuki]

Holy crap. We just did a run and got 9 Gate Widows but only got an Enlil's Brayettes that went FFA. Then we got 4 Pephredos and got 2 Hikazu Sune-ates and 1 Freya's Mask.