Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[VZX]

Matching the spell elements with the day element only work 1 time for us :/

We gave up on the 3rd attempt though.
Gotta try it again.

Placebo make pain easier to endure

[Kouu]

It sucks bad enough to keep doing Ramparts and not getting any NM pop... but to finally see NMs pop and having nothing drop one after the other is pretty frustrating. The only consolation this time was that we got lucky on the last one. So yeah, 1 Deimos gauntlet down, 4 to go. Sweet.

Both times we've seen Skirmish Pephredo put out were on Lightsday Night. Placebo, etc, etc, but isn't Lightsday the best day for drops? Or am I crazy? o.oa

Anyway, we always made it a point to fight that rampart at night, which yielded better results (they literally never, EVER popped during the day for my group :/).

[Pokemans]

My salvage group is pretty new and we're going to try LBC in a few days hoping for an ares 25, I'm wondering if anyone tried the kiting strategy and what kind of setup/jobs it needs? if anyone tried it a strategy about the fight would be appreciated, thanks.

[SamanosukeShiva]

huh? what kiting strat? lol

kiting LBC just gonna get you HM'd over and over

[Pokemans]

*Kiting strategy
Have most everyone sub nin, or potentially /rdm for blms. Use defensive gear and food to reduce LBC's damage potential greatly. Use heavy nukes and kite LBC around the room, using hate-bouncing to prevent LBC from focussing on one person too much.

from OP

I guess most people straight tank it. I just found this interesting since most of us in the linkshell have blm and rdm leveled, I just don't know how this works and if it needs wlegs, gaiters etc

[Kaeko]

Very old strategy that probably hasn't been pushed as a 'standard' method in over a year. Our group used to do this but doing a typical melee tank setup is far more optimal since it makes farming 35s in the same run more efficient than using mage DD. It's still definitely doable.

http://kanican.livejournal.com/8169.html

Try this if you are really interested. Note the date of the post is February 2007... This is pre-starter box even. Also you can solo LBC on BLM so multiple mage DDs obviously can work. Again, it just would potentially slow you down for 35 farming. If all you cared about was the 25s from the boss, I see no reason why melee setup is better than mage DD assuming you could pull it off.

[Pokemans]

Thanks, kaeko, good info in the link. We might try it out soon.

[fndragon]

Thanks, kaeko, good info in the link. We might try it out soon.

If you are doing it for the first time, make sure you read up on the fourth floor gears and how to kill/pull them. Nerfing Homing Missile is the difference between a flawless boss run and a free-for-all hate reset bonanza.

[Prep]

got a question on 4th floor: Does anyone that reaches the 4th floor in under an hour notice wind weather? and after and hour since entering do you see weather go away?

i am curious if anyone has tested this or if i am being somewhat paranoid, we have been going for peryton and boss and we get on the 4ht floor before an hr has passed and have wind weather up and of course we cant get a clean pull a lot of the time. but after the hour mark hits our weather has gone away. anyone else?

I have only noticed this from our past 2 runs.

[Kaylia]

Weather is linked with bhaflau thicket weather. Can check at weather npc in whitegate before going inside. The rest is just luck

[lotmorning]

just did this run today and we got our 650th NQ bee in a row. We don't even remember when last HQ bee dropped a pair of feet, but we do know how many NQ bee's it been since HQ was last seen. Rly starting to get tired of this damn bee

[oscurodrago]

guys have u any suggest to pop Zebra Zakary on 3rd floor? atm i'm @ 0/1500 seem never want pop ; ; atleast i want see it ; ;

[Darkhelmet]

My only suggestion is keep popping domant rampart NPC on the 3rd floor. Eventually you'll see ZZ. It's all luck (as far as we know..)

[mallister]

i've seen him twice in a year and a half, good luck.

[Dremir]

a little question, maybe you just reply to it but i don't want to read 50 pages XD yesterday we gone to do bhaflau boss, all ok but gear, with wind weather, was pretty impossibile to defeat! in 11 with 1xmnk 2xsam 1xblm 1xwar 2xthf 1xbrd 2xrdm 1xwhm with all eq unlocked we hasn't defeat gear ( 9% first, 10% second then we stopped)!! damn!! Wind weather got boost also with hp/defense on them? we was ok on tp and mp for nuking too!

and another question: i read some of you make it without killing gear..how it's possibile? we wipe for hate problem, curing mnk's after homing missile not weakened create hate for mages and they died....what strategy you use without killing gear?

[fishstix]

Back before my shell knew about clearing 10 gears, what we'd do after homing missiles, is to kite while we recover. Have the war sit with medium hate, voking occasionally, and then run out of HM range. Hate should reset for everyone who got hit right? or is it everyone totally. Either way, if he's out of range, he'll have enough HP to handle the boss for a while, until people are back up, ready to go.

If you're good enough, you can avoid HM entirely. Reposition when he turns, erase binds as the TP move goes off... not after. At the lower %'s, the blm can stun when it turns, giving the tanks extra time to reposition.

Oh yeah... this was also back when we saved 30 minutes to clear the boss. So just kill the gears >.>

[ringthree]

a little question, maybe you just reply to it but i don't want to read 50 pages XD yesterday we gone to do bhaflau boss, all ok but gear, with wind weather, was pretty impossibile to defeat! in 11 with 1xmnk 2xsam 1xblm 1xwar 2xthf 1xbrd 2xrdm 1xwhm with all eq unlocked we hasn't defeat gear ( 9% first, 10% second then we stopped)!! damn!! Wind weather got boost also with hp/defense on them? we was ok on tp and mp for nuking too!

and another question: i read some of you make it without killing gear..how it's possibile? we wipe for hate problem, curing mnk's after homing missile not weakened create hate for mages and they died....what strategy you use without killing gear?

Never really considered that Wind weather may also strengthen the boss, but even then it shouldn't be much of a problem. How many people did you have on the boss at one time?

Last night someone accidentally aggroed two gears while we were killing the Chariot on the 4th floor. Still killed the boss in 7 minutes with two DD's on LBC and got no HM. As long as people are quick with Erases and you have a MNK with Penance it is easy to avoid HM.

[Dremir]

Never really considered that Wind weather may also strengthen the boss, but even then it shouldn't be much of a problem. How many people did you have on the boss at one time?

Last night someone accidentally aggroed two gears while we were killing the Chariot on the 4th floor. Still killed the boss in 7 minutes with two DD's on LBC and got no HM. As long as people are quick with Erases and you have a MNK with Penance it is easy to avoid HM.

we have always 2 dd on the boss, and mage at 20' from dd to cure them. What's the right position to avoid perfectly HM? we tanked it like other boss ( 1 dd on every side of the chariot) but HM all time hit my mnk!

[Cyprias]

The problem with Homing Missile for me, is simply that it'll use Homing Missile sometimes while turning. It's really annoying to get the movement timing perfect only to see it ruined because of this. Q_Q

[Arthars]

just wait till NM pop rate and SSR drop rate to be boosted in next patch.......

well hope its the next patch because SE didnt mention which patch lmao