Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Uzor]

I wouldn't say 9/10 of the ramparts are a dud. You're just eyeballing it and making an assumption out of that. As more are dud then are actually popping, you remember more no-pops then pops.

Ever since I started recording how many pop versus no-pop ramparts we get, I've noticed that on average, around 25 to 29% of them will pop at least one NM. But this varies per floor. 1F have higher chance to pop while 4F has the least. On average, 7-8 ramparts are duds.

[Kaylia]

I wouldn't say 9/10 of the ramparts are a dud. You're just eyeballing it and making an assumption out of that. As more are dud then are actually popping, you remember more no-pops then pops.

Ever since I started recording how many pop versus no-pop ramparts we get, I've noticed that on average, around 25 to 29% of them will pop at least one NM. But this varies per floor. 1F have higher chance to pop while 4F has the least. On average, 7-8 ramparts are duds.

Hence why I used the "approximate" in front of 9/10. Just do the maths for 7/8 if you feel that my estimation was so innacurate. >_>


And I'm calling bullshit on a 30% spawn rate. That would imply one NM pop every two runs, which is far from what we ever got. We get 1 good rampart every 4 runs at best, doing at least 2x50% rampart and usually 30-40% on the last one.

[Uzor]

It would depend on which ones you do. 3F and 4F has had roughly 20% "good" rate. I do think my 1F and 2F are inaccurate as those have the smallest sample size. I refuse to think those have a 40% "good" rate, but so far it has been holding up. 8 pops 12 no pops on 2F so far. Sadly we rarely do those, so my sample size on 1 and 2F are growing slowly =/

[Kaylia]

Something I've been wondering for a long long time, but never managed to do. If you avoid all 10 gears and get to boss, is it nerfed or not? In nyzul, the objective is to avoid them but you can kill if you pull. I always wondered if it was the same thing here.

[Wolfknight]

Something I've been wondering for a long long time, but never managed to do. If you avoid all 10 gears and get to boss, is it nerfed or not? In nyzul, the objective is to avoid them but you can kill if you pull. I always wondered if it was the same thing here.

would be nerfed I would imagine, since the "warping" strengthens him but dodging them in nearly impossible especially in the 3 gear rooms.

[Meat]

Something I've been wondering for a long long time, but never managed to do. If you avoid all 10 gears and get to boss, is it nerfed or not? In nyzul, the objective is to avoid them but you can kill if you pull. I always wondered if it was the same thing here.

it's not nerfed, i used to pos to the porter and he'd still have full power hm

[Zhero]

I'm 11/15 on skadi, and I know for a fact that since ive been doing salvage with my group we have never had a NM pop on 3F and we always run out of time to do the 4th floor! Sucks when the last few 35s I need come from the places where theres the least chance of an NM popping

[zard1977]

Given the extremely high demand of usu feet it is surprising that you had not snagged a skadi head by now.

Running out of time to do 4F is mostly due to different priorities set by your group.

[Dremir]

there's something strange in bhaflau...last 6 run 0popped in all the first 2 rampart, and we was always morning 1st night 2nd...I don't understand....they changed something with update about nm popping?!

[Hyan]

Yep, I think they also changed D ring and Ridill drop rates in the last update.

[Arthars]

Yep, I think they also changed D ring and Ridill drop rates in the last update.

nah ridill drops alot on 1st fafnir after maintainance only, drop rate is increased guys!!!

[Crizto]

nah ridill drops alot on 1st fafnir after maintainance only, drop rate is increased guys!!!

Because you have a lot of posts I believe you. Ridill drop rate has officially increased! /cheer

[Devdas]

Ok today my LS did this and we were on second floor flans and were going just fine, took out 3/4 of them with spikes on no problem. However, this last flan no matter what we did would not put spikes on. We had to keep relogging and trying again and nothing until we had 10 minutes left in the run and finally got it. So I wanna ask is there something specific that triggers it that we should look out for or anything. We tried everything from Formless strikes, Nukes, Sirroco(sp?) proc, Light MB and had the hardest time getting spikes up. Any info would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

[Thorny]

Kill with no magic damage or formless strikes and spikes are guaranteed to get on and stay on. I'm not really sure what triggers them again after magic damage removes them, but it's safe to say it takes less time to just avoid the magic entirely.

[Devdas]

Kill with no magic damage or formless strikes and spikes are guaranteed to get on and stay on. I'm not really sure what triggers them again after magic damage removes them, but it's safe to say it takes less time to just avoid the magic entirely.

We did this at first but the mob was at like 3% and spikes didn't come on at all so we had to relog and try again. After 2-3 tries it just wouldn't come on that's mainly why I am asking, did we just get a buggy flan or something?

[Massimo]

We did this at first but the mob was at like 3% and spikes didn't come on at all so we had to relog and try again. After 2-3 tries it just wouldn't come on that's mainly why I am asking, did we just get a buggy flan or something?

You must have used some sort of magic damage. Did your mages use Dia II? What exactly were your DDs on them?

[Wolfknight]

You must have used some sort of magic damage. Did your mages use Dia II? What exactly were your DDs on them?

this, maybe skillchain dmg caused it?.
Also only magic dmg I know that is ignored is drg's wyvern breath dmg since it's breath and not magic.

[FailureMidgard]

Also only magic dmg I know that is ignored is drg's wyvern breath dmg since it's breath and not magic.

I think this is a false statement, for the record.

[Wolfknight]

I think this is a false statement, for the record.

I do easily 3k dmg from wyverns breaths[1500+ on DP and 750 or so on rest] total, probably more on the north/south puddings, and spikes never dropped do it pretty much every BR run and rampart spawns, I am 99% sure that wyverns' breath damage can't take spikes down.

[FailureMidgard]

I do easily 3k dmg from wyverns breaths[1500+ on DP and 750 or so on rest] total, probably more on the north/south puddings, and spikes never dropped do it pretty much every BR run and rampart spawns, I am 99% sure that wyverns' breath damage can't take spikes down.

It's not "do 300 magic damage and spikes go down". My best guess is it's based on percentage of magic damage taken. I think once we've seen spikes get fucked up, and I'm 99% sure it was because of SC damage + a MBed large Wyvern Breath. I see nothing else that could have caused it (SC alone basically never does).