Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Wolfknight]

It's not "do 300 magic damage and spikes go down". My best guess is it's based on percentage of magic damage taken. I think once we've seen spikes get fucked up, and I'm 99% sure it was because of SC damage + a MBed large Wyvern Breath. I see nothing else that could have caused it (SC alone basically never does).

maybe MBing breath could, but I am dam sure normally it won't take spikes down.

[Devdas]

You must have used some sort of magic damage. Did your mages use Dia II? What exactly were your DDs on them?

The DD we had on it were a thf, mnkx2, and a drg and no the mages didn't cast any spells on it since we avoid DoT in case we need to sleep/relog. Regarding Magic Burst, we always hold WS until spikes are up to prevent it from doing too much damage to early so it could not have been that. The thing was that we didn't even see it put spikes up is the problem, I can understand that spikes come up and magic can take them off but they just wouldn't come up no matter what until our run was basically over.

[FailureMidgard]

maybe MBing breath could, but I am dam sure normally it won't take spikes down.

I agree a breath won't normally mess anything up on it's own. I am disagreeing with it being magic damage that is ignored. Low amounts of magic damage will not remove the spikes though.

[Wolfknight]

I agree a breath won't normally mess anything up on it's own. I am disagreeing with it being magic damage that is ignored. Low amounts of magic damage will not remove the spikes though.

I am pretty dmg amount doesn't matter but MB might mess with how dmg is dealt to mob maybe, since I pop DP and deal 1.5k in one breath and never taken spikes off.

[Duber]

Can anyone confirm if no nm poped before 50% rampart won't pop nms at all during last 50% ?

Have anyone witnessed the oposite ?

[Mansin]

Can anyone confirm if no nm poped before 50% rampart won't pop nms at all during last 50% ?

Have anyone witnessed the oposite ?

My group has seen the only three pops of a rampart occur below 35%.

[Wolfknight]

Can anyone confirm if no nm poped before 50% rampart won't pop nms at all during last 50% ?

Have anyone witnessed the oposite ?

I've seen two under 40% once, and none before that, but others it's almost always early spawns then continuing to spawn.

[Duber]

Meh, so what SE said on interview is bullshit again ?

Thank You for help me clarify that though.

[mdkuser]

ive had a rampart with a NM pop under 5% and it was the only NM ( and droped ) .. but yeah its rare, so you better move to next floor if no pop at 50%.

[detlef]

When you encounter a fresh rampart, it may be "on" or it may not be. If you get to 50% and it hasn't popped anything, chances are it's not on. And if this is the case, it probably isn't worth your time to spend another 10 minutes on a dud.

My personal belief is that a rampart that is on will has something like a 5-10% NM pop rate. And a rampart that is off has something like... 0.5% pop rate. So even if it's off, there's still a chance for an NM to pop if you're lucky. But it's unlikely that you'll get NMs in bunches if it's off.

[Krz]

i Hate BR, i'm main sam and i go to BR almost every night, we don't do the boss anymore, (and as far as i've seen killing all of the gears does nerf LBC) we only farm 1st and 2nd ramparts with 6 cause we all have intrest in the stuff from the them, ive seen maybe, 15 bees since we started maybe 2 years ago, and when they decide to drop (rarely) its always the stupid f'n mask, spiders however we've seen a fair few, ive been on a run where we got like 2-3 of each of the drops from them, tried entering the rampart at night day morning dusk, still seems to give us nothing, idk temped to give up, but i want usu feet so bad

[Arthars]

keep going dude

it will definately drop

3 man can do 1 2 F rampart if you have the people to help DC

this can reduce the competitors ^^

it took me 23 ramparts before first bee pop and no drop, and then 3 more rampart to pop bee again and eventually drop

that was when it cost 2k to enter salvage

[Cream Soda]

Question on LBC. When you nerf it via gears/killing archaic chariots, what exactly is weakened? I just did a weakened LBC so idk if that affected it's evasion or not. What I was trying to do there, was I parsed my acc on the fight w/o using focus at all so I can see where my baseline acc is there and gear accordingly. I Parsed 92.5% on mnk/nin with the gear in my avatar, swapping destroyers for hades, used toau ring, and faith for pcc .

I'll probably go back to destroyers and faith from now on if and use forager's and rajas in place of toreador's as well as attack earring instead of minuet earring for focus up

[Hapernack]

I'm not sure about the chariots (apparently depending on what path you take, the chariot nerfs different things, one is atk, the other is def, or something like that) but if you kill all 10 gears and pop the 4F rampart, LBC's "Homing Missile" is nerfed to shit.

The damage is a joke (might be 100-200 per missile), and its single-target only, plus the hate reset is gone. Turns LBC's only one true dangerous move into a preferrable move because its so nerfed into the ground.

[mdkuser]

LBC has a very low evasion ( got caped accuracy too). Salvage bosses have less evasion then colibris ( need 400 acc ish to cap) except arrapago boss during thunder day /weather.

[Cream Soda]

Hmm Armored chariot is only like that on thunderday?

[mdkuser]

Idk, but every time the DDs have accuracy trouble in arrap, there is thunder day or weather ( and chariot are thunder based). Someotimes it's just because gear never drop ( hands rings dex str) but usually 2dds are full unlocked + dex str. zhayolm has a low evasion as well: 408 acc definatly caps me on SAM according to a previous parse, and thats with marman's earring, foragers, ulthalam+rajas pcc.

[Valyana]

Nerfed Homing Missile is still AOE, but it's just minor damage.

[Wolfknight]

Idk, but every time the DDs have accuracy trouble in arrap, there is thunder day or weather ( and chariot are thunder based). Someotimes it's just because gear never drop ( hands rings dex str) but usually 2dds are full unlocked + dex str. zhayolm has a low evasion as well: 408 acc definatly caps me on SAM according to a previous parse, and thats with marman's earring, foragers, ulthalam+rajas pcc.

really, for ZR mega when I used no cuch mantle I fell under acc cap to 90%, you sure it that low?

[mdkuser]

yes and just 4/8 merits. 2Hander cap easilly like colibris.

Im using un sam:

hagun sword strap tiphia sting
turban, A.torque brutal marman's
usukane body, dusk gloves, ulthalam rajas
foragers swift byakkos usukane feet.

caped me np.

If you dont cap use pizza... its better than cuchulain's mantle unless you eat an attack +100 food minimum ( more acc. and att).