Salvage - Bhaflau Remnants - thread2

[Wolfknight]

yes and just 4/8 merits. 2Hander cap easilly like colibris.

Im using un sam:

hagun sword strap tiphia sting
turban, A.torque brutal marman's
usukane body, dusk gloves, ulthalam rajas
foragers swift byakkos usukane feet.

caped me np.

If you dont cap use pizza... its better than cuchulain's mantle unless you eat an attack +100 food minimum ( more acc. and att).

Hm mob level must vary some cause w/bison steak[generally use it for boss runs] which is +90 and I was at 91.34% with:[have full merits]
hagun : pole : Smart Grenade[don't like tiphia for salvage]
Askar : J. Torque : bushi : brutal
Haub +1 : Askar : ulta : rajas
AM +1 : V. Belt : Byakko : Usukane

so vs your set +16 skill vs 12 acc +8 dex[assuming your mithra], so difference would be 14 acc to 18 acc, should only be 2% difference not 3~4 odd.

[mdkuser]

maybe. 92% acc is decent though I don't see why you'd sacrifice foragers for acc at that point. You dont cap probbly due to seigan. On MNK I never cap unless I go with 2 HQ snipers hollow earring and A.torque, hades sainti, but pizza is much better attack.

Btw askar head hands are only good If you are in the 80%s anyway, because the crits+ from dex is neglectible almost of the time: either the mob has high eva, and hence high AGI so 4DEX is just= to 3 acc, or the mob as low evasion and turban wins. High eva low agi doesn't exist, except polearm colibris I guess.

[Wolfknight]

maybe. 92% acc is decent though I don't see why you'd sacrifice foragers for acc at that point. You dont cap probbly due to seigan. On MNK I never cap unless I go with 2 HQ snipers hollow earring and A.torque, hades sainti, but pizza is much better attack.

Btw askar head hands are only good If you are in the 80%s anyway, because the crits+ from dex is neglectible almost of the time: either the mob has high eva, and hence high AGI so 4DEX is just= to 3 acc, or the mob as low evasion and turban wins. High eva low agi doesn't exist, except polearm colibris I guess.

Well since salvage Mega I almost never hasso since have hate majority to half the time. that change would drop me an fstr and would drop down to just 86% acc if I use turban/dusk which is worse since ussually since only march/haste or haste/no march[cor no brd], my group almost never has double brd or brd + cor for run. Also I was under the impression that for sam going from 91.3 > 95% acc + 2 str was better for sam then 15 att during tp. The dex isn't discountable either for crits parsing I got 12~13% crit rate with current set-up[+cuch] on 4/5 runs and 7% when I used AM +1.[dunno why so low that time]

[mdkuser]

I cant seem to break the crit floor ( 9%) on any boss, with~110 dex. But the fights are too short to have any real astimate on the crit rate. I still think for your set up, turban + dusk + pizza + foragers would do more dmg.

[Wolfknight]

I cant seem to break the crit floor ( 9%) on any boss, with~110 dex. But the fights are too short to have any real astimate on the crit rate. I still think for your set up, turban + dusk + pizza + foragers would do more dmg.

the problem with that is pizza is wasted on anything but mega, since nothing besides AR QQTH has much evasion, where as bison steak helps thru out the whole run.

[Cream Soda]

^. Where I personally don't go as far as steak for a simple salvage run, I do go for the higher attack foods that'll last me the run.

[Wolfknight]

^. Where I personally don't go as far as steak for a simple salvage run, I do go for the higher attack foods that'll last me the run.

which do you use then steak seemed like most reasonable to use price/duration wise for the higher att bonus?

[KSDI]

well on mnk, sitting at 400 att before songs, you get less att from bison than from subs, which are cheaper. Once you get minuet bison starts to add a couple points over sub but not really worth it imo (minuet4 will bring you up to around 450 meaning steak give u 5-6 more points of att over subs). And then in the unlikely event that you die, i'd feel more irritated knowing i lost a steak than popping another sub.

[Cream Soda]

well on mnk, sitting at 400 att before songs, you get less att from bison than from subs, which are cheaper. Once you get minuet bison starts to add a couple points over sub but not really worth it imo (minuet4 will bring you up to around 450 meaning steak give u 5-6 more points of att over subs). And then in the unlikely event that you die, i'd feel more irritated knowing i lost a steak than popping another sub.

Pretty much this. Need 500 attack to cap out from steak and while I could do that in my old build + songs, full usu is a bit lacking in the attack department even les when u toss on cuch mantle. I go with the coeurl subs.

2 per run with sanction

[Wolfknight]

Pretty much this. Need 500 attack to cap out from steak and while I could do that in my old build + songs, full usu is a bit lacking in the attack department even les when u toss on cuch mantle. I go with the coeurl subs.

2 per run with sanction

eh on sam I get that easy with mineut IV, chaos roll, or zerk hence why I go for it, and subs + sanction is about same cost anyways.

[mdkuser]

the problem with that is pizza is wasted on anything but mega, since nothing besides AR QQTH has much evasion, where as bison steak helps thru out the whole run.

Lieutenant's sash

[Ultimagi]

You should write a book, mdkuser. People need to know about the CAN EAT MORE.

[Wolfknight]

Lieutenant's sash

hell no.... 56k IS is alot of gil from ISNM almost 1.2m atleast if you're unlucky on khroma giving that up just for small improvement on boss dmg isn't worth it plus spending more on food lol.

[Cream Soda]

eh on sam I get that easy with mineut IV, chaos roll, or zerk hence why I go for it, and subs + sanction is about same cost anyways.

Steaks are 6k on my server. Csub fluctuates between 8-12k a stack. Provided they cost the highest at 12k, it's still a ton cheaper than steak provided you use 2 w/ saction or 3 w/o. w/o sanction, 3k for 3 subs which is half the price >.>

[Wolfknight]

Steaks are 6k on my server. Csub fluctuates between 8-12k a stack. Provided they cost the highest at 12k, it's still a ton cheaper than steak provided you use 2 w/ saction or 3 w/o. w/o sanction, 3k for 3 subs which is half the price >.>

steak is 3~4k here lol, and subs are 11~12k, so it's 2k+100 IS to 3~4k dunno why your server has higher steak cost.

[Finalnub]

Is there any conclusive evidence that Skillchain damages do/do not trigger spikes on the 2F Flans? North and South Flans would go so much faster if we could freely do darkness and whatnot>_>

[Iced]

SCs will not remove spikes from the flans, feel free to bust out your darkness SC at any time.

[Finalnub]

Ah I see.. Another question though; for the 4F Chariot does it link with wandering gears in the big room? Either way can it be safely pulled solo or is it best to let the thf flee/PD while we pick off the chariot and drag it to the north?

[mdkuser]

SCs will not remove spikes from the flans, feel free to bust out your darkness SC at any time.

lie. they remove it, like all non physical dmg: formless strikes, skill chain, elemental magic.. even the add effect on sirocco kukiri, garuda's dagger, or elemental staves. it did happen to us. However it removes spikes only if you do a certain amount of dmg ( JPs said 1k dmg).

[Wolfknight]

lie. they remove it, like all non physical dmg: formless strikes, skill chain, elemental magic.. even the add effect on sirocco kukiri, garuda's dagger, or elemental staves. it did happen to us. However it removes spikes only if you do a certain amount of dmg ( JPs said 1k dmg).

Wyverns breath don't and they're not physical, I've done atleast 5k in wyvern breath damage before and them keep their spikes. Though breath is special dmg type based armors having -breath dmg as another type, I think it's probably only magical dmg that does take it down. Also just wondering as anyone tested if blue mage's breath spells will cause them to be removed, and also know if magical ws do[atonement/spirit within/red lotus blade/etc].