Salvage - Arrapago Remnants - thread 2

[divisortheory]

Yea, wtf. Why skip mobs that drop stuff you can easily complete in exchange for killing a mob that drops stuff which is for all intents and purposes completely useless?

Wut? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but body pieces aren't easy to complete. <_<[/quote]

I meant they're easy to complete once you've gotten the drop from the Arrapago NM. As opposed to Arrapago boss drops, which may rot in storage for months.

[Wizerd]

Yea, wtf. Why skip mobs that drop stuff you can easily complete in exchange for killing a mob that drops stuff which is for all intents and purposes completely useless?

Wut? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but body pieces aren't easy to complete. <_<

I meant they're easy to complete once you've gotten the drop from the Arrapago NM. As opposed to Arrapago boss drops, which may rot in storage for months.

Oh. I meant not easy to complete Khroma-wise.

[Ambir]

Any suggestions to help speed this up? Id love to hit all the NMs and the boss in the same run, and my group is pretty experienced with salvage, just dont seem to be getting there. No spharai mnks, no ridill wars. As for initial damage we usually have 2 mnks, thf, and melee or 2 to make darkness with the mnks on gears(war or sam). Usually 1 whm, 1 rdm, 1 brd, 2 blms, 1 nin, 1 pup.

Advice is welcome.

That adds up to 67 minutes (if my addition is correct) to get to the 6th floor, which should give you time to kill the boss comfortably.
Ensuring that your mellees have Hermes Quenchers (there are a heap in the chests in this zone) should let you kill the 3F Qiqirn in one pass.
Ensure that you have a tank for the 4th floor Bhoot/Soulflayer NM already, meaning that no SJ farming is required on floor 4 will help. (ie have a NIN (with magic) to tank, or, if you're using /NIN, ensure they get the SJ cell from the first floor chest).
Only kill enough gear on 5F to allow you to pass through the rooms (keeping in mind you have to come back if you need the Ares Body Qiqirn).

Sounds like your times are close already though to being able to clear all the NMs and the boss.

[Arthars]

not the best drops but at least 35 finally came after long time >.>

http://mectradegroup.com/drop1.JPG

http://mectradegroup.com/drop2.JPG

[Francisco II]

Congrats on the drops...

We just finished an Arrapago run...

MNK, THF, SAM, RDM, WHM, BRD
WHM, BLU, SMN

Went about our usual routine, which is:

Floor 1: Clear the first Qutrub room, kill the next two lamiae heading west. Sneak/Invis all the way south, killing all the lamia on the SW wing, and a couple of Qutrubs for a third incus cell. Sneak/Invis to the skeletons, kill the first lamia on the NE part, clear all the mobs on the SE part - except for certain skeletons, depending on the HP situation. Ported up from the SE most portal.

Floor 2: Kill the two lamia in the SE room, saved TP - zerged the QQA down (no drop) - warped up.

Floor 3: Had everyone clear the first west room while the THF and I headed towards the QQTH. THF steals from the QQTH, I warp up... We usually have a soulflayer or two on us, so we need to do this somewhat quickly.

Floor 4: We head NE, clear the gears for Dup & Stratus cells. After clearing the gears, we kill both ramparts for a hand armor cell or two (THF priority for TH4). We head south, kill the Psycheflayer NM, and then kill the QQTH.

Floor 5: Clear gears as needed on the way to the Chariot. Kill the chariot, backtrack and kill the QQA.

Today we had about 25 minutes left, which is way more than past runs - so we cleared Floor 6 and attempted the boss (with 5 minutes left)...

It was a strange fight... the THF and SAM SATA'd as they could, but I was the only one actually meleeing it. We got it down to 70% in 5 minutes (without 2hrs). I took a fair beating from it as MNK/NIN, because our BRD ate Mortal Revolution for 1000+ damage, and never got elegy up.

I'm not sure if we managed to weaken the boss somehow, but Mortal Revolution seemed like a joke... both times it got used, it failed to damage me, and registered in the chat log as "The Armored Chariot uses Mortal Revolution, but misses Francisco." - But still, I still got knocked back and stunned (for like 2 second). It got off MR with me having 1 shadow up, and 0 shadows up.... so either luck, nerf, or really pathetic WS....

[Arthars]

maybe u have fanatic drink on? ;O

hm but missing u and still knock back + stun is wierd

prolly 0 damage with fanatic

[Kaylia]

If the AoE is blinkable, it's evadable. Probably just got lucky and it missed you. Maybe it was flashed? Only fought it twice, so I don't know.


On 3rd floor, how people lure the qirin to the other room? Bio + logout? Or is there a better method to prevent him from comming back

[Arthars]

u mean how to pull 3F qiqirn TH from its warp room all the way back to rooms before huge rectangle room?

if u mean that, the idea is basically:

thf flee > pull from furthest range > run back a bit > sneak > run back to grp at room before huge room

if S, where there are soulflayers, prolly do the same but no need sneak and either 1. run back with aggros, then 1 voker voke TH in, or 2. no aggro and consider really really lucky

[Arthars]

and also i am the one that english sucks and everyone picking on me

so i proudly present u:

http://mectradegroup.com/2TH.jpg

6F 2 TH ftw, MORE MORRIGAN ROBE FOR EVERYONE

i'll come out with the possible pop condition soon

[Meat]

and also i am the one that english sucks and everyone picking on me

so i proudly present u:

http://mectradegroup.com/2TH.jpg

6F 2 TH ftw, MORE MORRIGAN ROBE FOR EVERYONE

i'll come out with the possible pop condition soon

If it was socially acceptable, i would blow you right now.

[Acturus]

and also i am the one that english sucks and everyone picking on me

so i proudly present u:

[img]http://mectradegroup.com/2TH.jpg[img]

6F 2 TH ftw, MORE MORRIGAN ROBE FOR EVERYONE

i'll come out with the possible pop condition soon

If it was socially acceptable, i would blow you right now.

And this is where the thread takes an interesting turn.

[divisortheory]

and also i am the one that english sucks and everyone picking on me

so i proudly present u:

http://mectradegroup.com/2TH.jpg

6F 2 TH ftw, MORE MORRIGAN ROBE FOR EVERYONE

i'll come out with the possible pop condition soon

Well, there aren't any other mobs on that floor, and people in /p are expressing surprise that it just popped. So clearly it popped after all mobs were already dead. I also notice they popped exactly at the 10 minute warning.

[Neosutra]

and also i am the one that english sucks and everyone picking on me

so i proudly present u:

http://mectradegroup.com/2TH.jpg

6F 2 TH ftw, MORE MORRIGAN ROBE FOR EVERYONE

i'll come out with the possible pop condition soon

God damnit, I just got to work and now I have to go change my pants. Fucking awesome though.

[aurik]

I'm not picking on your english, I'm picking on your retarded "Hi I'm posting from a cell-phone" abbreviations. It is spelled you, not u.

[Arthars]

yea they mention abt clring the entire lvl and surprised THEY(they didnt expect 2 really) popped

but they did mention that they were out to test this run to pop TH on lv 6, but i waiting for them to reveal the info meantime while they summarise their run

after which we will have to need to translate again zzzz

but i guess huge clue is clr room, perhaps waiting till 10 min remaining and they pop? i dunno but like i said before i dont believe SE will make us choose EITHER NM OR BOSS

there must be a solid concrete way of popping it and not sacrificing a boss entirely

guess this is real breakthrough for morrigan lovers -_-

[aurik]

yea they mention abt clring the entire lvl and surprised THEY(they didnt expect 2 really) popped

but they did mention that they were out to test this run to pop TH on lv 6, but i waiting for them to reveal the info meantime while they summarise their run

after which we will have to need to translate again zzzz

but i guess huge clue is clr room, perhaps waiting till 10 min remaining and they pop? i dunno but like i said before i dont believe SE will make us choose EITHER NM OR BOSS

there must be a solid concrete way of popping it and not sacrificing a boss entirely

guess this is real breakthrough for morrigan lovers -_-

STOP USING RETARDED ABBREVIATIONS

[divisortheory]

Found the blog that this came from with a google search. They said they need to go over the logs some to try to come up with a condition.

[Arthars]

currently these are just a massive dump of things they did and THs pop in 6F, maybe we can start from here as template:

did whatever we all did for cells in 1F
same for 2F killed QA
3F North route also killed TH
4F N route and kill pyschplayer (eventually dropped macha 35 head zzz luck)
5F QA and chariots
6F clr room, DID NOT OPEN DOOR, waited 10 mins mark(or coincidence?), popped 2 TH

just a summary of their run, hope more info to be revealed because this current one is soo vague, waiting for them to go through chat logs meantime

[divisortheory]

currently these are just a massive dump of things they did and THs pop in 6F, maybe we can start from here as template:

did whatever we all did for cells in 1F
same for 2F killed QA
3F North route also killed TH
4F N route and kill pyschplayer (eventually dropped macha 35 head zzz luck)
5F QA and chariots
6F clr room, DID NOT OPEN DOOR, waited 10 mins mark, popped 2 TH

just a summary of their run, hope more info to be revealed because this current one is soo vague, waiting for them to go through chat logs meantime

Where is that info coming from? It's not on their blog. Anyway did they kill the ramparts that pop after you clear the room?

[Arthars]

sorry if i hurt ur eyes

i merely trying to type out as many info as i can and not waste time

u dont need full perfect english to understand what i saying anyways

lastly i am not here for a scholarship in english

i dont care if i cant spell