Salvage - Arrapago Remnants - thread 2

[Lordwafik]

Yeah I put my thief knife on AH today, I used to get much better luck when I was just TH2 than TH4, keeping the ass armlets but these things are nothing but a curse seriously -_- , fuck treasure hunter.

1/34 Silver Sea NMs, that includes multiple turtles, single gears, triple gears, dekkas, powderkegs, hammberblows. ONE ITEM from all of them, TH = fail.

[safer]

aemora dont forget 0/9 or /12 on the chariot though (i dont care to keep track anymore =/ )

sigh

[Prep]

Heres my arrapago setup, though I think I said this allready.

PT1: MNK MNK BRD BRD WHM RDM
PT2: MNK BLM RDM THF

3rd mnk is the backup mnk, incase one of the first 2 go down.

Thats the party I'll take to arrapago every time. Anyone extra must be either another MNK or THF. If I ever get access to a PUP75, I may consider bringing one in as a stragger job, seeing as how they do have decent h2h skill, some Martial Arts (I think only 1 trait though?), and can use their pet with abil and ranged unlocks.

On a typical run, I can kill: QQA, QQTH, Chariot + Boss with a couple minutes to spare. When things go bad (ppl afk on entry or shitty drop rates, I'm looking at you HP and Weapon cells), I skip out on chariot.

Do you only kill 1 QQA and 1 QQTH or do you kill all QQA and QQTH? and the mnks are /nin right?

[NynJa]

1 of each. I could probably go for the 2nd QQA on the 5th floor as well if the drops are friendly. QQA's dont usually take too long to fight.

the 3f QQTH is a waste of time. its got a huge pathing area, I dont clear the entire N wing, and having it run through that is death. The 4f one has a small route. Portal -> entrance -> portal

[divisortheory]

1 of each. I could probably go for the 2nd QQA on the 5th floor as well if the drops are friendly. QQA's dont usually take too long to fight.

the 3f QQTH is a waste of time. its got a huge pathing area, I dont clear the entire N wing, and having it run through that is death. The 4f one has a small route. Portal -> entrance -> portal

Try the 3F one some more, it is really easy when you get used to it. Clear the 3 small rooms, ignore the long room at the end and just keep a RDM by the porter to keep DoT on if he comes back. With that setup you should definitely be able to kill every NM + boss if cells are lucky. And if cells aren't lucky you should still definitely be able to kill all NMs except chariot + boss.

[Prep]

last question for a while: Do you have a time limit on each floor and if so what is it (this is for a boss kill run)

[divisortheory]

last question for a while: Do you have a time limit on each floor and if so what is it (this is for a boss kill run)

There's really no point in a run specifically for killing the boss until people kill the Zhayolm Madames and figure out what drops what. So for me personally, boss runs are just an added bonus that gives me something to do after everything else in the zone is dead. So the main focus should always be NMs, and only if the NMs are all killed should you worry about the boss.

[Slott]

We use a slightly diff strat. Melees at the portal in, blms at the portal out, rdm in the middle (after the 2nd small room, between the 2nd and 3rd rooms) blms start with nukes + a dot, rdm dots it as it crosses each way, melee beat the shit out of it at portal in. Dies pretty fast this way

[Wizerd]

I don't see why people put players in certain spots. We let melee chase it when it comes around the corner, every melee usually has a Hermes Quencher by then and often, every mage will too. The melees follow with hermes on while he runs and gives it TP to make it stop. When it gets enough TP it turns around and uses it, melees for a bit, then runs off. By then it's near the middle where it'll stop again anyway, and it's usually under 50%. From there it's always dead before it gets out of safe attacking range.

I'm convinced that that's why the zone has so many Hermes Quenchers.

[Slott]

it dies in 5 minutes, so i dont see it as if we're doing anything wrong.

[Neosutra]

I don't see why people put players in certain spots. We let melee chase it when it comes around the corner, every melee usually has a Hermes Quencher by then and often, every mage will too. The melees follow with hermes on while he runs and gives it TP to make it stop. When it gets enough TP it turns around and uses it, melees for a bit, then runs off. By then it's near the middle where it'll stop again anyway, and it's usually under 50%. From there it's always dead before it gets out of safe attacking range.

I'm convinced that that's why the zone has so many Hermes Quenchers.

Thats assuming you got hermes quenchers and you want to spend 8-10 min clearing the 3 small rooms (not that its a bad thing if you need more cells).

I prefer the seperating part, really saves alot of time if you dont need cells on this floor.

[Slott]

Yep, requires no clearing of the floor

1 rdm at the bend, had 3 blms on tonight at his portal, 2 monks 2 melee at portal in, 2 blms start w/ burst 2 + bio 2 from 3rd, land whatever else, it started at 65% ran towards portal in, got dotted on the way to portal in by rdm, melee raped the shit out of it, gg.

no drop but got machas coat on 4th floor th=)

[Crosis]

1/34 Silver Sea NMs, that includes multiple turtles, single gears, triple gears, dekkas, powderkegs, hammberblows. ONE ITEM from all of them, TH = fail.

Considering the drop rate you guys have had in Arrapago, I'd say its fair! :D

Still waiting for our first Macha's Coat

[aurik]

1/34 Silver Sea NMs, that includes multiple turtles, single gears, triple gears, dekkas, powderkegs, hammberblows. ONE ITEM from all of them, TH = fail.

Considering the drop rate you guys have had in Arrapago, I'd say its fair! :D

Still waiting for our first Macha's Coat

Drop rate? What drop rate in arrapago?

Arrapago: 24 runs
QQA: 0/34
QQTH: 1/24
Bhoot: 2/7
Soulflayer: 0/6
Chariot: 7/17 (enlil x3 tsukakazu x2 freya x2)

[alphacat]

Yep, requires no clearing of the floor

1 rdm at the bend, had 3 blms on tonight at his portal, 2 monks 2 melee at portal in, 2 blms start w/ burst 2 + bio 2 from 3rd, land whatever else, it started at 65% ran towards portal in, got dotted on the way to portal in by rdm, melee raped the shit out of it, gg.

no drop but got machas coat on 4th floor th=)

Hmm, I have a quick question about 3F QQTH. I go with a group of 6, so I'm wondering if N or S path is the easiest to clear since you do need to clear 3 rooms for the melee to have an aggro free run. My question is, what's the best way to pull the QQ, if you send someone to aggro it, does that person need to sneak up and run back? If so, does the QQ attack the person who pulls it, or does it start running right away? I'm thinking about having the main party wait at the entrance to the rectangular room and just send one person after the QQ.

[Slott]

TH usually runs right away. We've killed it with 6 people before as well, (Set up we took was mnk thf rdm whm blm blm) We pulled with an AM2 plus a tier 4 + nuke (blms in final room) it takes off right after....then had rdm dot it and the melee beat it up in last room, just rinse and repeat as it paths back.

As long as you keep dots on it, it won't regenerate.

There's no real difference in the path you take on the strat for clearing QQTH, if you want to clear the rooms? go ahead, we don't bother -.- only difference in picking a side is running by the TS psyches.

[Bleu]

Finally a good night in Arrapago...

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[Lordwafik]

GIEV DEEMOS

If only Qiqirns weren't so cute I'd have strangled them all already.

[Crosis]

Drop rate? What drop rate in arrapago?

Arrapago: 24 runs
QQA: 0/34
QQTH: 1/24
Bhoot: 2/7
Soulflayer: 0/6
Chariot: 7/17 (enlil x3 tsukakazu x2 freya x2

Your chariot drop rate is really good I'd say compared to ours.

20 runs by my count.
QQA: 2/31 (We only got 2 Cuirass's just this past week luckily)
QQTH: 0/28
Bhoot: 1/18
Soul Flayer: 0/2
Chariot: 1/14 (1 enlil)

4 for 93 total NMs

[Ayn]

Wafik, you have to equip a zuchetto with Armlet and Knife to bring out their true power.

No seriously trust me. I used my Zuchetto Beam and it dropped Hikazu Sune-Ate in Bhaflau.