Salvage - Arrapago Remnants - thread 2

[FailureMidgard]

Shell, barblizzard, ice carol. Blizzaga shouldnt be a problem. Its 800dmg ws and perdition is more of a problem

Well, we've never had Blizzaga 1 shot our tanks or anything like perdition, but it's troublesome enough to be worth stunning was I guess my point. It can do decent damage, and wipes shadows at the same time (can be bad if the tank just cast Ni).

[mdkuser]

Only hectoplasm is dangerous. And since everyone says stun WS works, I guess I'll try w/o stun next time, and rdm will sub whm or blm.

[Judai]

Who the hell wants Ares's Mask anyways?

[ringthree]

First time we ever fought it, I pulled hate early in the fight and got ectosmashed for something stupid like 1200 on RDM when I didn't have HP cell lol

Were you trying to dispel it? It is either highly resistant or completely resistant to dark based dispel.

[Arximiro]

Who the hell wants Ares's Mask anyways?

I'd like it for my Accuracy TP gain macro and Acc ws macro. Also need it if you want to complete the set and get the 10%DA bonus for wsing. It's not the best piece but not useless by any means.

[Aurara]

uh to my knowledge the set only gives 5% double atk lol :<, so dunno where you're getting this 10% from.

[ringthree]

uh to my knowledge the set only gives 5% double atk lol :<, so dunno where you're getting this 10% from.

5% was just a guess. Very limited testing suggested 10%. We just completed a set, so I will try to get some testing done soon.

[Arximiro]

It says 10% on the FFXI wiki but it appears it still needs some testing. That's where I got it from though. Even 5% would be pretty nice. ^^

[Moonguard]

I think our LS has the worst Usukane 25 drop rate. One of our member have yet to see a 25 in 6-7 months. So we did Arra today, was short on time so had to zerg the boss. He died at the time out message and what drops? Usukane :X

However, SE decided to be nice to us:

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No one got the Morrigan feet, but our mages already had them so it was no loss. Oh well, congratulations on complete Usukane hands.!

[Ratatapa]

Ok i need help about arrapago, my group did their 3rd arrapago yesterday (with th4 thf) well i'll call it th3 cuz hands never in the initial chest (orz)

My group consist of 7 members BRD RDM WHM MNK MNK THF (last one come BLM or BLU depending run)

We clear the NW wing full on first floor but we got 0 weapon.

Had to clear full NE wing to get a weapon. and some head.

The boss we do usually is QQA-Bhoot or flayer-QQTH-QQA-Chariot but never got time for boss) is it because we really got 0 luck on cells at start or are we just not enough?

Thx

[Bakthi]

If it's your third Arrapago, I wouldn't be expecting to clear all the NMs + boss. The numbers definitely aren't your problem; Arrapago isn't exactly overflowing with cell drops, so I don't like to bring a ton of people. My static for this zone used to be RDM BRD MNK MNK THF BLM, and we got to the point of fully clearing it, but not for a while.

I and others have described what we do elsewhere, but the short answer is to keep going and get more familiar with the zone. And yes, sometimes weapon drops are bitches. For 1F we usually clear NW, clear as much of SW as we need to, then clear as much of SE as we need to while sending someone ahead when it looks like we're about ready to go up.

[fishstix]

Are you giving the thf one of the first weapons? Could be placebo, but every little bit helps in this zone. It works for some groups to farm everything they need on 1F first, but I find it's better to limit your time. Clear the NW wing, maybe some in the SW depending on how lucky you're feeling with ice spikes. Your group only really needs~ 1 extra weapon cell. Halfway into farming the bones for HP, you could send your WHM to the NW portal, that way you could try to farm 1/2 qutrubs on 2F. If I'm still feeling the weapons pinch, on 3F, you could farm a the first room west, although that'd take a quite a bit of time. Don't forget that the QQth also can drop a weapon cell, although don't rely on it. Having 1 MNK without weapon would hurt dot/tanking capability, but it's not the end of the world, and not worth spending an extra 20 minutes for a chance at a cell drop.

Also, the NE wing on 1F doesnt drop weapons. Did you mean SW? The 3F QQth also shouldnt be skipped if you can help it, you need every kill you can get with that bastard. If you skip all 3F mobs, going straight for the QQth, it should take you maybe 7 minutes max? using the door/wall strat. I would work on clearing as many NMs as you can, while learning what works for you in this zone, then fit in the boss.

[Kaylia]

Ok i need help about arrapago, my group did their 3rd arrapago yesterday (with th4 thf) well i'll call it th3 cuz hands never in the initial chest (orz)

My group consist of 7 members BRD RDM WHM MNK MNK THF (last one come BLM or BLU depending run)

We clear the NW wing full on first floor but we got 0 weapon.

Had to clear full NE wing to get a weapon. and some head.

The boss we do usually is QQA-Bhoot or flayer-QQTH-QQA-Chariot but never got time for boss) is it because we really got 0 luck on cells at start or are we just not enough?

Thx

This kind of shitty run happen once every 10-15 arrapago, but you should still be able to hit every NM on the way up. In arrapago, the first floor is the only one you will farm, and spending 30-50 minutes there is perfectly normal.



#1 Clear every lamia in North West wing, and most quturb (can skip the last 2-3). Repeat in South East wing, and skip as many quturb as you can, unless you still need weapon for the melee, rdm and brd.
After this, kill the lamias in the first 2 rooms of SE, and clear NW completely for hp, vit, earring cells.
~30-50min


#2 Pull the lamia if you still need magic/mp or ghost if you didnt get earring, save tp for qiqirn. Steal and kill the qiqirn
~5min

#3 Send a mage to the teleport while your party clear the first room (or 2 if they kill fast). The mage aggro the qiqirn and hide in the corner closest to the center of this map. If the melee saved tp and thief feint it, you should be able to kill before it run away. You can usually make it stop twice on your way (once in the middle, another in the 1st room). Hermes quencher help, and you should get a bunch on first floor
~7min

#4 Kill the qiqirn, farm another subjob on the 3 gears if needed (for na spell or 2nd tank), pull the Big Bhoot/Soulflayer and rape it (barblizzard/carol for bhoot)
~5-10min

#5 Send someone with sneak (to avoid aggro on rampart) to the center of the zone, while your party fight the first 4 gears for subjob and legs cell. Kill the qiqirns once it spawn, than move to middle room. If you are taking the Bhoot NM path, you can kill the rampart closest to the center for str cells (pretty helpful). Pull the chariot in a safe place (entrance or exit) and rape it. If possible try saving tp toward the end, or just pull another monsters

Gather your party together, Soulvoice (and buff everyone) and zone up.
~10min


#6 Kill the closest gears, followed by the closest rampart. I usually 2h the rampart to prevent additional spawn. After this, kill everything on your way to the other side of the room. Our static of warx2, thief, rdmx2, brd managed to clear this room in 6min more than once, so it's perfectly doable with 6.

Kill both qiqirn when they spawn, and zone up
~10-12min

#7 In the worst case scenario (assuming there was no screw up), you will have slightly under 10min to kill it, which isn't a lot without 2hour. You should be able to finish it most of the time tho

[el_tio]

Am I crazy or does Head Butt not stun Deviate Bhoot? Temporal Shift was stunning fine, but since its recast is so long (and its MP cost so much higher) I was hoping Head Butt could be used in interims. But 2 -agas went through last try, and I don't seem to remember any "no longer stunned" messages.

[Pokemans]

Ok so I have some questions about the Psychflayer, it's true sound and aggros to JA and magic, if you don't get lucky with Ranged cell in box, would you ignore it? or have a brd pull it? also since it casts nasty spells, is a job or sub with stun necessary? Thanks

[Kaia]

Ok so I have some questions about the Psychflayer, it's true sound and aggros to JA and magic, if you don't get lucky with Ranged cell in box, would you ignore it? or have a brd pull it? also since it casts nasty spells, is a job or sub with stun necessary? Thanks

The Psycheflayer NM isn't nearly as dangerous as the Deviate Bhoot NM. I was all worried about it the first time I brought my group to fight him, but we ended up smoking him in about 45 seconds (1/1 ^^b). BRD pull works fine but you'll probably have to clear a few of the NQ psycheflayers, since the NM likes to hang out in the back corners.

As for stun, I used the same setup I use on Bhoot, just in case. Bring BLM to the main party for marches, and let him free nuke while stun isn't up. I think we interrupted most of his spells with just melee attacks anyway.

[Ratatapa]

Well we have shitty luck i guess.

If we wanna do boss, usually we can do.

QQA
QQTH(4)
Chariot and boss

Maybei just farm too much on floor 1

[mdkuser]

There seem to be different point of view and opinions on how to do this zone but I think you need have an idea on timing needed.

For us a perfect run timing looks like this:

1F=35min max.
5F= we arrive on 5F with about 40-45 left. Less time will most likely mean no boss.
6F= warp on 6F with 25-30 left. Depending on time left, we farm more gear on 5F or not.
Pop 6F= 4 minutes, kill= 5-6 minutes.

15-20 minutes left for boss. Gives room for 5 minutes ish for mistakes.

[ringthree]

Well we have shitty luck i guess.

If we wanna do boss, usually we can do.

QQA
QQTH(4)
Chariot and boss

Maybei just farm too much on floor 1

You just need practice. You will cut time out as you learn the zones and what to do.

[jetta]

My Salvage group did an Arrapago run tonight for the first time since the "Glitchgate" update (and after todays maint too).
Everything was going fine until we got to floor 3. We did our usual sneak/invis up, head to north room engage the qiqirn it runs away so we all go and stand by the wall and wait... and waited.. and waited.. It didn't turn around.
Now we have done this run literally 100's of times so I'm pretty sure there was no error and everyone was in right spot. Has anyone else tried this since the update? I really hope SE haven't ninja fixed this to stop him turning around and coming back.