Salvage - Arrapago Remnants - thread 2

[aurik]

Random question...

What do people do for fighting the 4f Psycheflayer NM? Anything special?

We just fight it normally, 2 mnk + rdm + whm etc. Way easier than Bhoot, lol.

[NynJa]

Bhoot's a fucking bitch, since you most likely wont have SJ cells at that point (at best two, 1 from crate and 1 from astrologer steal), and ectosmash FUCKS YOU UP.

[Wizerd]

Bhoot's a fucking bitch, since you most likely wont have SJ cells at that point (at best two, 1 from crate and 1 from astrologer steal), and ectosmash FUCKS YOU UP.

We just kill a few gears on 4F before doing the bhoot and usually have at least a RDM/DRK and 2 MNK/NIN or a MNK/NIN and another /NIN.

[Lordwafik]

Bhoot's a fucking bitch, since you most likely wont have SJ cells at that point (at best two, 1 from crate and 1 from astrologer steal), and ectosmash FUCKS YOU UP.

When you zone up there, take a turn and fight gears, there's a room with ramparts too so you can get a potential radiatus if you didn't get one earlier for lolTH4.

[Julian]

When we go for Bhoot we give the first 2 SJs to the MNKs, if steal failed we kill some gears until we get a 2nd SJ, and we just have the MNKs tank it and have 2 blms rotate stuns on -agas and perdition.

It's a very easy NM... just make sure you pull it far away from the room so you don't low HP aggro more bhoots. (Although they are sleepable, they can easily fuck with your stuns since they all have the same name)

[Rho]

Did an Arrapago NM run last night trying for some 35 pieces.
We were able to hit all the Qiqrin and Chariot but no luck on the drops.

The surprising thing though is that the drop rate for cells seemed much better than usual. We had only one THF, but qutrubs were dropping weapons at about a 2/3 rate, and Lamia were dropping their cells at about the same rate if not slightly better.

I'm wondering if this was just random luck or if other people have seen a noticeable difference since the emeregency maintenance.

Please reply if you have a similar story

[safer]

this zone is highly TH dependant..... went in once a couple weeks ago with no TH, and got like 1-2 cells total off the first floor

went in last night with TH3 and we were capped on weapons and magic before leaving the first floor

NMs still suck ass... 0/15 (idk i think i lost count) on any drop from the chariot

[Rho]

this zone is highly TH dependant..... went in once a couple weeks ago with no TH, and got like 1-2 cells total off the first floor

went in last night with TH3 and we were capped on weapons and magic before leaving the first floor

NMs still suck ass... 0/15 (idk i think i lost count) on any drop from the chariot

Oh I agree, here's the thing though.

We use the same THF for every run pretty much (for stealing cells of Qiqrin NMs plus TH in general). Same level of TH for several runs but the cell drop rate this time was so much better that I'm curious to see if its a fluke or not.

We'll be going again next Monday and find out for ourselves I guess lol.

[Prep]

Finally made it to the boss last nite, thanks guys for your help. ended up wiping to him though ><!!

Killed 2nd floor qqa and 4th floor qqth then heading for boss. We only had 10 mins left when we engaged the boss and whm ended up dying, so ya that was death. Hope we kill him soon^^

[Jaceot]

We use the same THF for every run pretty much (for stealing cells of Qiqrin NMs plus TH in general). Same level of TH for several runs but the cell drop rate this time was so much better that I'm curious to see if its a fluke or not.

We'll be going again next Monday and find out for ourselves I guess lol.

I think you lucked out, we did a run a few nights ago and killed all but 3 qutrubs, got only 2 weapons, of course from the last two. We lucked out and won back some of the time we lost on qutrubs when we went 2/2 on hp from the skeles though.

[Julian]

Killed the 2 required ramparts in F6 at same time, then killed the 2 popped ramparts at the same time.

NO QQTH anywhere.

to be fair: we had 4 reinforcements out when dealing with the 2nd set due to time constraints.

[divisortheory]

Killed the 2 required ramparts in F6 at same time, then killed the 2 popped ramparts at the same time.

NO QQTH anywhere.

to be fair: we had 4 reinforcements out when dealing with the 2nd set due to time constraints.

reinforcements were korrigans and saplings? I guess the only other thing to test now would be to just hold a rampart forever killing reinforcements and see if a QQ eventually pops.

[Julian]

2 Korrigans and 2 Sapplings were out and about.

If people still want to try the ying-yang idea, there's also 8 gears in that floor: 4 triple, 4 single.

[divisortheory]

If it's dependent on one or more enemies on the 6th floor, I can't imagine it being anything other than the ramparts. I mean, they pop after there's literally nothing left to do on the floor. I guess it's possible though lol, given how retarded the Zhayolm NMs are. Personally I think either they aren't poppable at all, or they're rare pop reinforcements from the sapling/korrigan ramparts (2 ramparts, 2 QQs in the DATs).

[Rho]

I think you lucked out, we did a run a few nights ago and killed all but 3 qutrubs, got only 2 weapons, of course from the last two. We lucked out and won back some of the time we lost on qutrubs when we went 2/2 on hp from the skeles though.

That would be before the emergency maintenance though, right?

I'm trying to find out if perhaps S-E ninja'd a drop rate change during that maintenance.

[Kaylia]

this zone is highly TH dependant..... went in once a couple weeks ago with no TH, and got like 1-2 cells total off the first floor

went in last night with TH3 and we were capped on weapons and magic before leaving the first floor

NMs still suck ass... 0/15 (idk i think i lost count) on any drop from the chariot

TH is a placebo here...I thought it was real for a while, but it's not (thf still help a lot for the 2nd sj cell tho)

First run with thief: Got magic/mp from every lamia but one, got like 6-7 on first floor, weapon for everyone (50% drop rate)
Second run without thief: 1 magic on first floor, 1 weapon, 1 hp , 2 ja
Third run with thief: 1 magic 2 weapon, 0 ja
Fourth run without a thief: Same as first run
Fifth run with a thief: Same as first run.


I've seen both extreme with and without thief. I know sample isn't that big, but if it was really doing a big difference, we wouldnt have day with no drop rate and thief in party

[Wizerd]

That was fun. Just successfully trio'd QQTH x2 and Archaic Chariot. No drops.

MNK/NIN
RDM/WHM
BRD/WHM

So much more fun.

Icing on the cake was a friend of the RDM claimed KA solo while we were finishing up and we went and killed for rare/ex belt drop lol. I didn't win lot.

[Crosis]

Finally had a great run in Arrapago. Our LS normally does two runs each and my group got Deimos's Cuirass and Macha's Coat, other group got Freya's Ledelsens.

Didn't have time to test the Ying-Yang theory on 6th floor, only had 7 so we were rushing to get to the boss. Timed out on it at about 25%

But still was finally a decent night! :D

[Sagacious Sundi]

Has anyone tried Ying Yang'ing both the rampart and its reinforcements for all 4 ramparts on the 6F? Something tells me this could also be a pop condition for 6F madame.

[Neosutra]

Wooot 1/31 Deimoss Cuirrass. Was suprising as the run was going pretty slowly before this, was getting dicked for cells on the first floor and barely made it to the rampart on the 5th floor.

This is the first time weve killed th QQ astrologer before it had a chance to even walk back to the porter so im going to illogically accept the "kill before they get to end of route" theory untill the next time yeilds nothing.

Still 0/30+ on any other NM in this zone.