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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

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    Can't say I've given TP per round that much thought, double attacks and whatnot proc enough, and often with only three hits instead of four, that it doesn't seem like trying to calculate into 10 a round does more than making it a headache and overthinking it. I don't worry about the -Eva on Haub because I have enough Haste and such to have recast timers up, and with Mamool Ja moves and just tanking stuff in sea and other HNM, I've gotten used to recasting at 2 shadows anyway (more Ninja Tool Expertise merits go).

    Have usually gone sushi, just due to like.. THF mobs and such, and the STR/DEX for Jin... plus the fact I'm a cook and I make it regularly. >.> Hedgehog Pie though.. hm... maybe I'll give it a try, I make a batch of that now and again.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    Can't say I've given TP per round that much thought, double attacks and whatnot proc enough, and often with only three hits instead of four, that it doesn't seem like trying to calculate into 10 a round does more than making it a headache and overthinking it.
    I agree
    Have usually gone sushi, just due to like.. THF mobs and such, and the STR/DEX for Jin... plus the fact I'm a cook and I make it regularly. >.> Hedgehog Pie though.. hm... maybe I'll give it a try, I make a batch of that now and again.
    I held onto using sushi for so long, but they I gave meat a try in temenos central (beastmen kings floor) watching my damage and accuracy with meat was just....... <3 my accuracy barely droped but the per hit damage went up so much.

    switching from sushi to meat was the best move for my NIN's DD output, just gotta get past the personal mind set on the accuracy thing and realize that your over time damage is higher despite the more misses that you notice.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    I'm going to consider trying a meat build for my ninja when I get a Perdu Blade. I recently just got Usukane Sune-ate, so just those two things should help the cause plenty. I'll also have to get a Fire Bomblet though, since I've always used a Bomb Core because I stuck with Sushi. But an increase of almost 20 acc makes me pretty confident about trying meat. Except of course Mamook/North camp thickets, I still have to slap on O Hat/Life Belt while using Sushi to hit those damn Lurkers.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    There's no way to hit the lurkers at a satisfying rate that doesn't involve overloading on accuracy for virtually every other mob there. Seriously, thf JT evasion bonus works out to something like -25% hit rate.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    48k IS for perdu blade....I gotta get exping lol

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Only 10 ATK but still kills other options

    http://i16.tinypic.com/4v5qp9j.jpg

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tythera
    Only 10 ATK but still kills other options

    [img]10 atk pic [/img]
    Can you confirm hidden +acc effect?

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    I'd have to head somewhere after this and find a mob that I can get on the brink of to test it, at behemoth now >.>

  9. #49
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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Needs more pics of the actual katana not icon.

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    http://i12.tinypic.com/63lnn1t.jpg

    In BD on thief or I'd take actual screenshots, but it looks like that.

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    Not bad, thanks

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Time to bust out some math so people can double check my numbers. So with Suppa, I have 35% dual wield, and currently +13 Store TP in TP and WS gear. So:
    Senj/Fudo
    Base TP = 5 + (((227 * 0.65) - 180) / 120) = 4.72958
    Then with Store TP: 4.7 * 1.13 = 5.311 = 5.3

    Senj/Perdu
    Base TP = 5 + (((208.5 * 0.65) - 180) / 120) = 4.629
    Then with Store TP: 4.6 * 1.13 = 5.198 = 5.1 So close to 5.2 /cry

    And assuming full return Blade Jins, to figure out the number of hits to 100, I do (98/Store TP value)-2 and then round up. I swap out my Suppa for WS as well, so that changes the TP gain on those two hits. But either way, it works out to 17 hits Senj/Fudo, and 18 hits Senj/Perdu. So a delay of 2508.35 for S/F, and 2439.45 for S/P. What blows is how close S/P ends up being (again assuming I'm doing all this correctly), without Suppa, S/P's TP gain is 5.3 like S/F. So Blade Jin returns 12.6 TP. 17 hits of S/P is 86.7 TP, 86.7+12.6 = 99.3 T_T

    This leaves me with two courses of action:
    - Always get hit once between WSs.
    - Always double attack on Blade Jins.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sci
    Time to bust out some math so people can double check my numbers. So with Suppa, I have 35% dual wield, and currently +13 Store TP in TP and WS gear. So:
    Senj/Fudo
    Base TP = 5 + (((227 * 0.65) - 180) / 120) = 4.72958
    Then with Store TP: 4.7 * 1.13 = 5.311 = 5.3

    Senj/Perdu
    Base TP = 5 + (((208.5 * 0.65) - 180) / 120) = 4.629
    Then with Store TP: 4.6 * 1.13 = 5.198 = 5.1 So close to 5.2 /cry

    And assuming full return Blade Jins, to figure out the number of hits to 100, I do (98/Store TP value)-2 and then round up. I swap out my Suppa for WS as well, so that changes the TP gain on those two hits. But either way, it works out to 17 hits Senj/Fudo, and 18 hits Senj/Perdu. So a delay of 2508.35 for S/F, and 2439.45 for S/P. What blows is how close S/P ends up being (again assuming I'm doing all this correctly), without Suppa, S/P's TP gain is 5.3 like S/F. So Blade Jin returns 12.6 TP. 17 hits of S/P is 86.7 TP, 86.7+12.6 = 99.3 T_T

    This leaves me with two courses of action:
    - Always get hit once between WSs.
    - Always double attack on Blade Jins.
    You could always eat carbonara as your primary food, or get Usukane Haramaki!

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    5 ACC on the hidden ACC, just did the test

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    You could always eat carbonara as your primary food, or get Usukane Haramaki!
    I'd much sooner try the Usukane Haramaki. Compared to a Hauby+1, it's a loss of 11 atk and only a slight acc gain. The Perdu Blade would basically counter the atk loss, and it would be just a bit more acc to support a meat build. It'd also be welcome to evade once in a while in merit parties again. I just really don't enjoy popping Citadel Chelonian.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    How long does the assault rank-up mission take?

    Stupid Gold coins from mog locker 80 left me ~3500 IS short and my LS has dynamis when I get home from work. Ugh, didn't expect this to come out this week or else I'd be ready.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    You can do the segments back-to-back. Unfortunately, if you want your Perdu Blade today, count on either farming up the beastment equipment yourself or camping the AH to be the first fool to throw 100k or more away on it.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    2 birds with one stone, go merit on beastmen for your rank-up item!

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Takes about 10-15 min if you know all the answers to the 3rd part. Go upto npc with 3 imp gold coins, 6 mythril and a toau bstman item (verified mamoolja collar, mamoolja helmet, troll pauldron) in advance so you dont waste time walking back and forth between each CS.

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    Re: Perdu Blade questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by sahearniitth
    Takes about 10-15 min if you know all the answers to the 3rd part. Go upto npc with 3 imp gold coins, 6 mythril and a toau bstman item (verified mamoolja collar, mamoolja helmet, troll pauldron) in advance so you dont waste time walking back and forth between each CS.
    3 more gold coins!?! Breakin' my balls SE; breakin' my balls. God I hope people aren't gouging as bad tonight as they were when the mog locker expansion came out.

    Guessing merit camps will be full tonight, so pretty much gonna take what I can get. This update has been nothing but NIN blue-balls for me between suppa cock-blocking and now this.

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