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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by melbufrauma
    im not sure how old this news is but i just found out about it, apparantly Heath Ledger is supposed to play The Joker in the upcoming film here is a pic of what he looks like in makeup:

    http://a461.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...2d55b1a60c.jpg

    has this been confirmed?
    Is this supposed to be the make-up for Joker or another crappy "Crow" movie?

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    ^^ never know who they asked to play him, I know alot of voice actors don't like to be filmed while doing the voice for some reason

    ^the makeup is trying to be realistic to his craziness so the makeup tries to reflect that, but you know how realism in fantasy movies go; like how michael bay didn't want megatron to be the walther p38 anymore because he wanted "realism" and size changes wouldn't be "real", hello its a movie about talking alien robots that change into vehicles what more realism do you need...

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimag...ctionshot1.jpg
    here is another pic, not too good but you can see him in the light at least

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve
    Quote Originally Posted by melbufrauma
    eh, i just dont think he would make a good joker, hopefully they dont ruin the sequel
    I'm more concerned that they're putting Maggie Gyllenhaal in Katie Holmes' role. I have faith that Ledger can do a good job as the Joker, because I really didn't think he'd be a believable gay cowboy either, but he pulled it off. Gyllenhaal, however... I'll reserve judgment because I really haven't seen too much of her work, but I don't have the same confidence. If they're working with a decent script and a decent director, I don't see how it can suck any more than, say, Spider Man 3.

    I hate her face, though. Literally.
    Really, Batman is too much of a crazy loner to really care about romance. That is one of the things that I have considered to be fail about the Batman movies, the closest thing to a romantic interest that Batman has is Catwoman.

    P.S. That Joker makeup is total fail. Mark Hamill is the one and only Joker.
    Although we are great allies and friends, one day, one day all you BG forum goers, there will be a great war. A war that will alter the threads of time history.

    Septimus and Daahan will clash in epic combat over who is the best joker.

    I will pick Jack Nicholson and he will pick Mark Hamil, and the very space-time continuum will be shattered.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Jack Nicholson was a decent Joker, but I don't think he was great at it. a little to wide imo, tho he was better than Caeser Romero with the makeup over his mustache.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Remy0
    Jack Nicholson was a decent Joker, but I don't think he was great at it. a little to wide imo, tho he was better than Caeser Romero with the makeup over his mustache.
    There are several certainties in life that can never be refuted;

    Jack Nicholson = Joker
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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    Quote Originally Posted by Remy0
    Jack Nicholson was a decent Joker, but I don't think he was great at it. a little to wide imo, tho he was better than Caeser Romero with the makeup over his mustache.
    There are several certainties in life that can never be refuted;

    Jack Nicholson = Joker
    Adaman Hauberk = Blue
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    Coke > Pepsi


    This is life in the kingdom of god, any challenge to this is a challenge to the sanctity of life.
    Fixed.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve
    Quote Originally Posted by melbufrauma
    eh, i just dont think he would make a good joker, hopefully they dont ruin the sequel
    I'm more concerned that they're putting Maggie Gyllenhaal in Katie Holmes' role. I have faith that Ledger can do a good job as the Joker, because I really didn't think he'd be a believable gay cowboy either, but he pulled it off. Gyllenhaal, however... I'll reserve judgment because I really haven't seen too much of her work, but I don't have the same confidence. If they're working with a decent script and a decent director, I don't see how it can suck any more than, say, Spider Man 3.

    I hate her face, though. Literally.
    Really, Batman is too much of a crazy loner to really care about romance. That is one of the things that I have considered to be fail about the Batman movies, the closest thing to a romantic interest that Batman has is Catwoman.

    P.S. That Joker makeup is total fail. Mark Hamill is the one and only Joker.
    Although we are great allies and friends, one day, one day all you BG forum goers, there will be a great war. A war that will alter the threads of time history.

    Septimus and Daahan will clash in epic combat over who is the best joker.

    I will pick Jack Nicholson and he will pick Mark Hamil, and the very space-time continuum will be shattered.
    And it will end when there's a marathon of their work and you can barely recognize Mark Hammil in roles other than Luke Skywalker because he's a fucking amazing actor, but Jack Nicholson will always be a big hairless blotch in the center of the screen, with giant neon signs pointing at him that say "ATTENTION: PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS JACK NICHOLSON. JACK NICHOLSON IS JUST BELOW THIS SIGN. PLEASE FOLLOW THE ARROWS TO JACK NICHOLSON."

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daahan
    Although we are great allies and friends, one day, one day all you BG forum goers, there will be a great war. A war that will alter the threads of time history.

    Septimus and Daahan will clash in epic combat over who is the best joker.

    I will pick Jack Nicholson and he will pick Mark Hamil, and the very space-time continuum will be shattered.
    We will disagree about this for eternity. I think that Jack Nicholson phoned in his same performance as the Joker. You think something that is completely illogical and wrong. Watch any of his films, he always plays the same character, much like Christopher Walken. But unlike Christopher Walken, Jack Nicholson has a volume control on his performance so that he can have a little bit of Jack Nicholson (A Few Good Men, As Good as it Gets) or a whole freakin' lotta Jack Nicholson. (Batman, Witches of Eastwick)

    Whether or not you like the character that he plays, it certainly was not the Joker. Pick up a few comics that the Joker is in, you will see that Tim Burton's film had nothing to do with the Joker.

    Quote Originally Posted by Remy0
    Jack Nicholson was a decent Joker, but I don't think he was great at it. a little to wide imo, tho he was better than Caeser Romero with the makeup over his mustache.
    I wouldn't even count Caeser Romero as the Joker since it was a radically different character back then. Back then the Joker was a fairly harmless prankster, not the homicidal clown that we know today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    There are several certainties in life that can never be refuted;

    Jack Nicholson = Joker
    Adaman Hauberk = Purple
    and
    Coke > Pepsi


    This is life in the kingdom of god, any challenge to this is a challenge to the sanctity of life.
    Mark Hamill = the Joker
    Adaman Hauberk = Purple
    Dr. Pepper > *

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    And it will end when there's a marathon of their work and you can barely recognize Mark Hammil in roles other than Luke Skywalker because he's a fucking amazing actor, but Jack Nicholson will always be a big hairless blotch in the center of the screen, with giant neon signs pointing at him that say "ATTENTION: PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS JACK NICHOLSON. JACK NICHOLSON IS JUST BELOW THIS SIGN. PLEASE FOLLOW THE ARROWS TO JACK NICHOLSON."
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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    I think anyone who thinks Jack Nicholson is a better Joker than Mark Hamil hasn't experienced much Batman, the occasional cartoon episode and movies.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    I think something that is completely illogical and wrong. Watch any of his films, he always plays the same character, much like Christopher Walken. But unlike Christopher Walken, Jack Nicholson has a volume control on his performance so that he can have a little bit of Jack Nicholson (A Few Good Men, As Good as it Gets) or a whole freakin' lotta Jack Nicholson. (Batman, Witches of Eastwick)
    I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out the following actor that always play the same character: Vince Vaughn. This talentless hack always plays the same smarmy, sarcastic, witty, laid back guy.

    Also, the Mark Hamill arguments need to stop. Not everyone watched the batman cartoons, and believe it or not there are fans of the Batman franchise that were born before 1990. He may be a great voice actor for the Joker, but he's not a big name actor outside of the Star Wars series and won't draw an audience like a Heath Ledger or a Jack Nicholson. I'm sure Heath was probably forced upon Christopher Nolan by the movie studio, as they like to take an artistically accurate film and turn it into a campy summer popcorn movie.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    I think something that is completely illogical and wrong. Watch any of his films, he always plays the same character, much like Christopher Walken. But unlike Christopher Walken, Jack Nicholson has a volume control on his performance so that he can have a little bit of Jack Nicholson (A Few Good Men, As Good as it Gets) or a whole freakin' lotta Jack Nicholson. (Batman, Witches of Eastwick)
    I'd also like to take this opportunity to point out the following actor that always play the same character: Vince Vaughn. This talentless hack always plays the same smarmy, sarcastic, witty, laid back guy.

    Also, the Mark Hamill arguments need to stop. Not everyone watched the batman cartoons, and believe it or not there are fans of the Batman franchise that were born before 1990. He may be a great voice actor for the Joker, but he's not a big name actor outside of the Star Wars series and won't draw an audience like a Heath Ledger or a Jack Nicholson. I'm sure Heath was probably forced upon Christopher Nolan by the movie studio, as they like to take an artistically accurate film and turn it into a campy summer popcorn movie.
    I will say that Jack Nicholson used to put effort into acting, I don't think that Vince Vaughn ever has.

    People would go to see a Batman movie were it filled with actors that no one knew. Take Superman Returns for example, did people go see the movie for the actors? Kevin Spacey was the only famous person in the film (computer Brando doesn't count), yet it grossed $391 million worldwide during its theatrical release. Hell, even Christian Bale isn't a big name actor, before Batman Begins people might remember him as "that crazy guy in that one movie".

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Hell, even Christian Bale isn't a big name actor, before Batman Begins people might remember him as "that crazy guy in that one movie".
    >:O


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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    I always remember him from Swing Kids.

    http://www.wwiilectureinstitute.com/films/swing.jpg

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Hell, even Christian Bale isn't a big name actor, before Batman Begins people might remember him as "that crazy guy in that one movie".
    >:O


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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    You never saw Equilibrium?

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    You never saw Equilibrium?
    I had the same reaction as Septimus when I saw that picture. I've never seen it, but then again I'm not exactly the world's leading expert on movies.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

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    You never saw Equilibrium?
    I had the same reaction as Septimus when I saw that picture. I've never seen it, but then again I'm not exactly the world's leading expert on movies.

    It was kindof a B-movie. I don't even think it made it to theatres. Taye Diggs was his co-star if that says anything :D

    Cool action flick, decent plot. I'm sure if yall saw it you'd like parts of it.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    You never saw Equilibrium?
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    You must be thinking of some other BG.

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    Re: Heath Ledger = The Joker?

    Might just be me, since I am a huge fan, but I would've like to have seen Jim Carrey do the role of Joker.





    had he not done the god awful part of Riddler first...

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