Guttler for WAR?

[Bagel]

I assume when SE purposefully didn't allow new jobs access to K Club, it wasn't to prevent anything they could think of, but rather to prevent uses we'd eventually come up with. That is to say, I don't think SE forsaw how ridiculous SEBW kraken is (even though souleater probably does 12% specifically because of the 8 hit max per round) and they wanted to stop us from breaking their game in new and exciting ways.

[Sho]

COR and PUP really gain nothing from K Club, they just didn't want BLUs to feel left out.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

I assume when SE purposefully didn't allow new jobs access to K Club, it wasn't to prevent anything they could think of, but rather to prevent uses we'd eventually come up with. That is to say, I don't think SE forsaw how ridiculous SEBW kraken is (even though souleater probably does 12% specifically because of the 8 hit max per round) and they wanted to stop us from breaking their game in new and exciting ways.

Souleater does 10% by default, the extra 2% is from the AF helm. I really doubt they were trying to make it numerically aesthetically pleasing with it.

And yeah, I agree it was probably mostly not knowing that stopped them.

[Rocl]

PUP should be able to use the Animator like a boomerang

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

PUP should be able to use the Animator like a pre-patch bomb core

FIXED FOR OH YOU SILLY PUPS

[Bagel]

What I meant is that if souleater took 13% of your HP, a full attack round would deal 104% of your HP in damage to you ohshit

[Shuemue]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

[ZarakiKujata]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

if I get what you are asking you mean based on each weapon for highest skill level? if so then no, bow for sam and gsword for war

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

GSwd is not top for DRK, PLD, or WAR and they all can use it.

SAM can use relic bow.

Otherwise that is true.

[Sagacious Sundi]

I got another one:
-If krakens in Vana'diel only have 6 arms, why do kraken clubs give 2-8 extra hits?

PUP should be able to use the Animator like a boomerang

Or fire lasers/shoot maton oils at their enemies with it.

[Senoska]

I've been investigating relic weapons for awhile now and I'm wondering why SE decided to make Guttler (relic axe) BST only. Forgive me if this topic has been beaten to death somewhere in another thread - just point me in the right direction if that is the case and consider your help much appreciated.

Now I know that Ridill WARs are pretty much disgustingly broken as is but no more so than a Kraken DRK, Gjallarhorn BRD, or an Aegis PLD. In looking at the native axe skill, WAR and BST are identical at 75 - capping at 269. It's true that WAR is able to equip some of the very best gear in the game, however BST is able to equip all of the same gear (correct me if I'm wrong) - Heca, Ridill, Haidate, Dusk, etc - BST is able to use it all. Granted BST has a much lower sword skill than WAR - but I'd think BSTs other abilities would compensate for the differential in sword skill in term of something being imbalanced or broken.

I'm wondering if someone could shed some intelligent insight as to why SE chose to excluse WARs from using this relic. I already talked to Sundi about this and while he was unaware of the issue, he is going to investigate the matter. Thanks for your input.

Welcome home.

[BRP]

You can go live there, I am perfectly content in my dual-wielding, Utsusemi-covered, 20+k-an-hour paradise.

I'm not one to agree with SE, but to be fair, if SE had done their math right, their game would have 20k exp/hour parties with SMN/BLMs and WAR/DRGs using Polearms. The whole problem with SE is that they planned things to work a certain way without any real planning. I guess one can be happy SE doesn't plan to nerf anything.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

You can go live there, I am perfectly content in my dual-wielding, Utsusemi-covered, 20+k-an-hour paradise.

I'm not one to agree with SE, but to be fair, if SE had done their math right, their game would have 20k exp/hour parties with SMN/BLMs and WAR/DRGs using Polearms. The whole problem with SE is that they planned things to work a certain way without any real planning. I guess one can be happy SE doesn't plan to nerf anything.

If they did their math right we would probably not be able to do those "dual-wielding, Utsusemi-covered, 20+k-an-hour paradise" merit parties.

[Sho]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

BST and WAR both have A- Axe Skill, if I remember right.

[Khamsin]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

BST and WAR both have A- Axe Skill, if I remember right.

Regardless, is BST's A- Axe Skill it's highest weapon skill? That's what he's asking.

As for Great Sword, even though DRK, PLD, and WAR can use it despite neither of them having Great Sword as their highest skill, can the job that does have Great Sword as its highest skill use it? Whichever job it is that specializes in Great Sword...

lolGreatSword

[Sho]

Are all jobs limited to the weapons that they have the highest skill in? Disregard shield and horn obviously.

BST and WAR both have A- Axe Skill, if I remember right.

Regardless, is BST's A- Axe Skill it's highest weapon skill? That's what he's asking.

As for Great Sword, even though DRK, PLD, and WAR can use it despite neither of them having Great Sword as their highest skill, can the job that does have Great Sword as its highest skill use it? Whichever job it is that specializes in Great Sword...

lolGreatSword

Answer should be DRK with A- skill... right? @_@ *head a-splode* I do see what ya saying tho, lol.

[Reynard]

why does rdm get native divine skill and absolutely no way to lvl it unless you sub whm or pld? and whats divine skill and healing skill really do for you anyway?

why does rdm have no native staff skill when they position staves as mage weapons and rdm has so many uses for elemental staffs?

why does guard suck so much to skill up?

while both RDM and PUP can use daggers, how come there is not a single one that both can equip? And yeah, rdm can use all the status effect h2h weapons but has no skill to do so, and yet PUP cant use hardly any of them and would LOVE weapons that weren't just all about the damage.

how come bst is the only job whose effectiveness as a subjob is determined by the main level and not capped level of the job?

how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

the world may never know...

[aurik]

Stun Jamadhar:
Lv. 66 WAR / MNK / RDM / DRK / PUP

Stun Jamadhar +1:
Lv. 66 THF / DRK / NIN

What the hoof?

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

why does rdm get native divine skill and absolutely no way to lvl it unless you sub whm or pld? and whats divine skill and healing skill really do for you anyway?

why does rdm have no native staff skill when they position staves as mage weapons and rdm has so many uses for elemental staffs?

why does guard suck so much to skill up?

while both RDM and PUP can use daggers, how come there is not a single one that both can equip? And yeah, rdm can use all the status effect h2h weapons but has no skill to do so, and yet PUP cant use hardly any of them and would LOVE weapons that weren't just all about the damage.

how come bst is the only job whose effectiveness as a subjob is determined by the main level and not capped level of the job?

how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop?

the world may never know...

Are you serious about these?

[Epical]

Stun Jamadhar:
Lv. 66 WAR / MNK / RDM / DRK / PUP

Stun Jamadhar +1:
Lv. 66 THF / DRK / NIN

What the hoof?

Fucking aurik beat me to it.