Def down - stacking?

[Repairs]

Def Down
Agnon (51/256)
Dia 3 (39/256)
Acid Bolts (32/256)
Full Break (32/256)
Frightful Roar (26/256)
Enervation (25/256)

· Dia seems to stack with everything.
· From what I’ve read Acid bolts do not stack with Agnon or Frightful Roar.

Stacking Questions:
· I’m guessing Acid bolts don’t stack with fullbreak either?
· What about Enervation, it stacks with everything but Acid bolts?
· Frightful Roar stacks with anything?
· Whats max combo for def down?

[aurik]

Only 1 def-down and 1 dia effect maximum at any time.

[Starr]

Shell Crusher (64/256)

[fantasticdan]

To the best of my knowledge, the maximum amount of defense down possible at one time is spirit-surge jump, dia III + lightshot, choke, along with a VIT down effect (absorb-vit, wild oats, stinking gas, etc.)

[sugo]

Do things like lightshot or light threnody help with Dia defense down effect? I always assumed it's a static number.

[Nekio]

My understanding is that Light Shot bumps up the "tier" of whatever Dia spell is on for the defense down effect only, not the DoT. For example, cast Dia II > Light Shot > becomes Dia III. I think this was shown by trying to overwrite with Bio II or something. Iunno, it's all secondhand.

[LinktheDeme]

My understanding is that Light Shot bumps up the "tier" of whatever Dia spell is on for the defense down effect only, not the DoT. For example, cast Dia II > Light Shot > becomes Dia III. I think this was shown by trying to overwrite with Bio II or something. Iunno, it's all secondhand.

Def pretty sure it only effects the DoT and someone proved it somewhere, not hard to prove just i'm lazy

[fantasticdan]

Light shot adds an additional 5% defense down to dia II, it has been tested numerous times. Couldn't find anything with BG search, but here's an excerpt from a really old post on KI:

Defense Down Test
257 DEF - Base Defense
230 DEF - Defense after Dia II (10% DEF Down)
217 DEF - Defense after Dia II + Quick Draw

http://www.killingifrit.com/forums.p...295411#2295411

I can't say if it works the same way for Dia III, wouldn't be hard to test in ballista.

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

Def Down
Agnon (51/256)

It took me 5 minutes to realize you meant angon.