Need help GS 70-83

[minimuchacha]

Hi, I am stuck at lvl 70 GS and I am not sure what item to make at this stage. I read some guides that say to make those gold armors; however, a friend of mine actually told me to skill up by synth gemed gold rings and desynth them... Can anyone help me out? Thanks!

[Gatsby]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Goldsmithi ... _by_Gatsby

My GS guide. I need to update it with new items and deflationary comments but it should be decent.

[Thistle]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Goldsmithi ... _by_Gatsby

My GS guide. I need to update it with new items and deflationary comments but it should be decent.

Gold buckler is what my mule is doing now, so that's the section I read off the bat. Small mis-wording in it:

"He state that on average he was getting synths on 33% of his synths."

Should be 'skillups' for the first 'synth'.

I was wavering back and forth on when to start ores -> beads, so thanks for that part.

[Gatsby]

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Goldsmithi ... _by_Gatsby

My GS guide. I need to update it with new items and deflationary comments but it should be decent.

Gold buckler is what my mule is doing now, so that's the section I read off the bat. Small mis-wording in it:

"He state that on average he was getting synths on 33% of his synths."

Should be 'skillups' for the first 'synth'.

I was wavering back and forth on when to start ores -> beads, so thanks for that part.

Engrish and I don't get along very well. Thats what I get for doing a science education.

[aurik]

Going to start ores at 79+2 when my mule gets there (currently 67 and accumulating materials for the push)

[Thistle]

I hate gold bucklers so so so much (and I don't get anywhere near the skillups reported in that guide). I'm really tempted to start ores -> beads as early as possible, but I hate taking big risks... I think I'm going to compromise by starting at 80 +2 (+3), but I'm still not totally decided.

[shaitan]

don't do ores at 79 its not worth it doing a 8 lvl gap on beads(guild items + support or not), just grind out that last little bit on bucklers trying for break synths. 1/3 skillup on those synths is kinda exceptional if that was true i was seeing 1/4 or less on average sometimes better. sometimes would see a skillup every synth on a stack then it would go a stack with no skillups. just gotta suck it up 67-80 is worthless just be glad you didn't do it during inflation.

80-87 find a woodworker and whore yourself out.
87-92 muscle belts and O ingots
92-95 rings, loss now but can mix it up with cursed if you want but on average they are a worthless loss synth that takes forever to turn around
95-100 elemental rings lol, garbage loss synths anymore with all the idiots rushing to 100 and killing the market(koenig shield if you feel lucky, on my server it is big loss and gotta wait for a general shield)

On average cursed market for GS is worthless, at least on my server

[aurik]

don't do ores at 79 its not worth it doing a 8 lvl gap on beads(guild items + support or not), just grind out that last little bit on bucklers trying for break synths. 1/3 skillup on those synths is kinda exceptional if that was true i was seeing 1/4 or less on average sometimes better. sometimes would see a skillup every synth on a stack then it would go a stack with no skillups. just gotta suck it up 67-80 is worthless just be glad you didn't do it during inflation.

You'll lose less breaking a few elemental ores than willfully throwing away 3-4 stacks of gold ingots and targes 79-80.

[Epical]

Is our server the only server where you make ~50k profit per eleore synth and they sell like hotcakes?

[Ambir]

70-73 Breaksynth Shrimp Lanterns
or
70-71 Breaksynth Gold Cuisses
71-73 Breaksynth Gold Sabatons
73-77 Breaksynth Gold Gauntlets
77-78 Breaksynth Gold Cuirass
78-79 Gold Buckler
79-80 Breaksynth Rapier
80-87 Elemental Beads

[Thistle]

Is our server the only server where you make ~50k profit per eleore synth and they sell like hotcakes?

On Midgar there's limited profit (10-50K, depending on the kind), but it looks like they sell very slowly with quite a few up. We have a couple kazillion goldsmithers here.

[Theraven]

70-71 Breaksynth Gold Cuisses
71-73 Breaksynth Gold Sabatons
73-77 Breaksynth Gold Gauntlets
77-78 Breaksynth Gold Cuirass
78-79 Gold Buckler

That's exactly what I did, except I took the Gold Bucklers to 80 then started beads. When I went through that stage beads were an ok profit (20-100k or more depending on type) but the problem was they sold soooooo slow. I could synth up 4 of each kind of bead and end up sitting on them for 2-3 weeks having to relist them over and over because they didn't sell. And not because I got undercut, people just didn't buy them. I finally just quit listing them until New/Full Moon because people would buy a ton of them during those moon phases and then not buy anymore until the next one. I went through that stage right when deflation was really taking a huge hit because I remember Lightning Beads being 500k when I started and 200k when I finally got through them.

The bead market on Ragnarok seems to have picked up a lot since I went through those levels, I notice a lot more sales on them now and I check quite often since I may just buy beads rather than cut my own ores for the elemental rings if they're cheap enough. The problem is theres virtually no profit on most ores now, some ores are even more expensive than the beads.

[alienmonkey]

I tried breaksynthing rapiers @78 gold, but in 10 breaks I didn't get 1 skill up which is very strange from my results of breaksynthing gold gauntlets and cuirasses. Cap on rapiers as far as I know is supposed to be 83 gold and I should have been getting skill.

So I'm curious if anyone's breaksynthed Rapiers @78 and got any skill or not.

[Ambir]

I tried breaksynthing rapiers @78 gold, but in 10 breaks I didn't get 1 skill up which is very strange from my results of breaksynthing gold gauntlets and cuirasses. Cap on rapiers as far as I know is supposed to be 83 gold and I should have been getting skill.

So I'm curious if anyone's breaksynthed Rapiers @78 and got any skill or not.

I did 30. I recorded a skillup on my second break synth and definitely got one on a success (6 successes out of 30 attempts seemed very high when my Smithing is only 20). No other skillups.

I've never believed that some synths have a higher skillup rate than others, but either the cap for rapiers is not 83 and I imagined the break skillup (quite possible), or this synth sucks for skillups. I'm now doing Gold Bucklers to 79 when I'll try rapiers again (provided I can save up enough fluorites).

[alienmonkey]

I've never believed that some synths have a higher skillup rate than others, but either the cap for rapiers is not 83 and I imagined the break skillup (quite possible), or this synth sucks for skillups. I'm now doing Gold Bucklers to 79 when I'll try rapiers again (provided I can save up enough fluorites).

I've kind of always believed that some synths have a higher skill up rate than others, since I'll get more crafting one thing than another around the same lvl gap, but I don't think rapiers cap is 83 either. I'm trying to figure out if anyones breaksynthed these and their skill up rate was horrible or if they just didn't see skill coming from it till 79 gold which would mean the cap is wrong most likely. I did an elemental ore test and went 4/5 which is pretty good and got .2 skill, so I think I'm going to just forego breaking rapiers and switch to bead churning even though a 9 lvl gap is pretty big.

[Ambir]

Another possibility that occurred to me was that breaksynthing at 5 below cap may be the problem, and that while it may be possible to get skillups, the rate may be lower. While I've been breaksynthing since 69, the most below the cap I ever was was 4, but 69-78 I averaged around 35 synths per level and never had anything like 25 breaks without a skillup.

[Thistle]

I tried breaksynthing rapiers @78 gold, but in 10 breaks I didn't get 1 skill up which is very strange from my results of breaksynthing gold gauntlets and cuirasses. Cap on rapiers as far as I know is supposed to be 83 gold and I should have been getting skill.

So I'm curious if anyone's breaksynthed Rapiers @78 and got any skill or not.

If I could get enough fluorites, I'd do rapiers to the cap. I swear to god, I got a skillup every 2-3 synths. I did them from 78-80.

Beads, on the other hand, are going to be the death of me. I have 5 I've been trying to sell for more than a week now. New moon just passed, and not one ice bead sold on the whole server (not just from me). ><

[tyraravenlocke]

I was pretty lucky and had a woodworker friend at that stage.

I did elemental beads.. and then he gave me a cut of his profits... and the price of all ores - the ones I broke.

Was pretty much the best I guess.

Sadly, at least on Garuda that market is 100% gone now.. but your server may vary.

[Silencer]

I feel your pain Thistle.

[alienmonkey]

If anyone is curious I went 31/44 with 14 failed synths and 13 lost ores at 78.0 Gold full moon windsday SE. I guess that's not a bad success ratio (70.5%) for that level. .1 to 79 now so it can only get better. I guess this will work out ok.... I hope.