Ok,Parents Need to Start Parenting

[Septimus]

Honestly, I am more concerned about the mental state of the people who come up with games like these than the children who would play them. Games are not real and all, but you have to be fairly twisted in the head to come up with games like that and think that people should play them.

[MF Perm]

Honestly, I am more concerned about the mental state of the people who come up with games like these than the children who would play them. Games are not real and all, but you have to be fairly twisted in the head to come up with games like that and think that people should play them.

I'm sure these guys grew up in the same era of gluttony of hack n slash movies of the '80's. They're only a product of their media.

I'm more concerned about the people taking a 4,000 year old book literally than I am about people expressing their creativity in fictional violence.

[Mr.City]

Complete utter and total bullshit here we come. I'm so tired of the notion that video games are strictly "kid's stuff". I'm even more weary of these crusading organzations like the one mentioned in the article that are out to "protect society". Am I the only one digusted by the scrunity over this game while movies like Saw and Hostel get a free pass? I guess it doesn't matter since violence in games can't even compare to that found in games since it's not interactive...or so most of society believes.

[Skyylya]

I can just understand how they ruled on this. Yes, playing a game like this is probably not going to produce the next mass murderer or anything to that extreme. However, I work in a criminal law office, and read police reports/seeing graphic images of crimes and crime victims daily. I can see how its disrespectful it is to, both the victims and the families of victims, to release a game like this.

Now, whether it should have been up to the government to regulate a game like this, I cant say. But I still hold my opinion that its distasteful.

while i completely agree that it's in poor taste. Where do you draw the line. People get shot every day, do we now stop releasing games and movies where people get shot because it might be offensive to someone who had a family member or friend get shot?

I'm a strong believer in the concept if you don't like it, don't look at it. If these families will be offended by this kind of material then they have the right to avoid it. Just like someone who has the capacity to see it just as a game, and not reproduce these things in the real world has the right to play it as it is, a game.

This is nothing more than censorship I don't like one bit. This world is full of to many conservative asshats that ruin things for well-adjusted people.

when are we going to starting banning scientology and stuff that really do cause real world problems.

[Intense]

while i completely agree that it's in poor taste. Where do you draw the line. People get shot every day, do we now stop releasing games and movies where people get shot because it might be offensive to someone who had a family member or friend get shot?

I feel the context of the movies and other games are different from this particular one. In typical games/movies, you have a good guy (who you typically play in games) and a bad guy. In this game, you are the bad guy, and you win by doing bad things which is how you do well and advance in the game.

Graphical content aside, this is where I see it as disrepectful and in poor taste. I mentioned what I do for a living, because that is where the weight and gravity of the situation came from for me.

[Skyylya]

There are plenty of games where you play the bad guy though. Take fun games like the grand theft auto games. Your goal is to kill, steal, and basically be a cuthroat mob hand.

or the neverwinter nights games since that's fresh on my mind. Sure you can be a good lawful citizen, but you can also be an evil greedy criminal and kill someone for no reason other than you want to. or rob them.

how about leisure suit larry where your goal is just to get laid. how about FPS games where you goal is to get the baddest weapon in the game to blow people up.


I'm not completely disagreeing with you, i'm just pointing out how hypocritical it is of the government to censor this one game because someone can rape someone's decapitated head, when there are a multitude of games out there that have just as graphic content, albeit of a different manor.

[Intense]

I dont find it hypocritical at all. This particular game cause a death, which was found to be linked to it. Go back and look at the first or second thing Shuemue posted. There is a link to an article about the death. It sounds logical to me that this game would get a bad wrap in the eyes of the public for that reason alone.

[MF Perm]

I dont find it hypocritical at all. This particular game cause a death, which was found to be linked to it. Go back and look at the first or second thing Shuemue posted. There is a link to an article about the death. It sounds logical to me that this game would get a bad wrap in the eyes of the public for that reason alone.

Well Rockstar certainly did a good job in creating a rift between even the liberal-minded gamers lol.

[Khamsin]

how about FPS games where you goal is to get the baddest weapon in the game to blow people up.

I bet if they made a new FPS game in the line of Doom or Quake, but instead of nazis or aliens, you were in some British Parliament building, they would ban that game, too. Silly Brits.

Although a game set in a US federal institution, school, or airport blowing up congress, students, or tourists would get some mild criticism, it would never be banned. (Although it may never get published lol)

[Skyylya]

After seeing that all i can say is the government is covering their ass.

That kid didn't kill because of the game, he would have killed anyway. The game, like every game, is just being made out to be a scapegoat cause people can't just call someone fucking psycho. Sure maybe he mimmicked how the kid died from something he saw in the game, but that doesn't mean that the game caused him to do it any more than it means everyone murdered by a handgun was influenced by seeing it in a game or movie. It's an isolated incident which gives them leave to make the game a scapegoat when the problem is probably the parents of the kid who did it for either not raising him right or giving him bad genes.

there are two things i really hate in the media, and that's people complaining about how much athletes get paid, then spend 500 dollars at a game, and people using games/music and tv as a scapegoat for their own inadequacies as parents.

I stand by my point of saying that it's hypocritical.

[Intense]

Whether or not the parents are using it as a scapegoat, its bad press for the game. People react to what they see; if people see that some kid died, and this is to be blamed then its not unheard of to me for them to try to get the government involved to regulate/restrict it.

I think in that case, the governments hands are tied. Since theyre supposed to represent and serve "the people" (haha yeah right), they gotta go through the motions because its what the people are calling for.

[MF Perm]

Whether or not the parents are using it as a scapegoat, its bad press for the game. People react to what they see; if people see that some kid died, and this is to be blamed then its not unheard of to me for them to try to get the government involved to regulate/restrict it.

I think in that case, the governments hands are tied. Since theyre supposed to represent and serve "the people" (haha yeah right), they gotta go through the motions because its what the people are calling for.

It's also an older generation the fervently bases their entire religious and spiritual life off of a book that endorses slavery, genocide, rape and incest.

They be riding dirty.

[Intense]

Right, and theyre the ones voting and speaking up. Politians do everything for more power and to look better in the public eye to get higher on the food chain. Why is this so suprising to anyone that the government would take action on this?

"The squeaky wheel gets the oil."

[MF Perm]

Right, and theyre the ones voting and speaking up. Politians do everything for more power and to look better in the public eye to get higher on the food chain. Why is this so suprising to anyone that the government would take action on this?

"The squeaky wheel gets the oil."

Oh I'm not surprised by it in the least, I just hope this time around youth is on the receiving end of a wake up call about how powerful of a voice we really are. Not only that but the aspects we need to achieve to become a good society i.e.; responsibility and humility versus blame and pride.

[Remyo]

a kid in alabama stole a car and drove to a police station and killed 3 cops. He said he got the idea from GTA, it's just pawning off his true reason (being fucked in the head) off on something else.

I could go set fire to a town and I say I thought I was a BLM and blame Final Fantasy games, doesn't make it true.

[Intense]

Rem-meister, did you read and comprehend anything I posted?

[Septimus]

a kid in alabama stole a car and drove to a police station and killed 3 cops. He said he got the idea from GTA, it's just pawning off his true reason (being fucked in the head) off on something else.

I could go set fire to a town and I say I thought I was a BLM and blame Final Fantasy games, doesn't make it true.

To people who don't believe in personal responsibility it is quite true though. People aren't fat because they eat too much and exercise too little, it is because they are addicted to fast food. Kids don't smoke because they are trying to be cool, it's because the cigarette companies advertise to them. Alcoholics can't help it, they are genetically predisposed to drinking too much. Just remember, it is never your fault, someone else is always to blame for the things you do.

People are all just fragile, helpless, sheep who are at the mercy of any little stimulus that may have them do anything against their tiny-little wills.

[Remyo]

Rem-meister, did you read and comprehend anything I posted?

This particular game cause a death, which was found to be linked to it.

just because the spawn of satan says the game made him kill someone, doesn't mean you can prove it.


and I read the first post about your brother not being allowed to play violent games. I started playing violent games when I was 9 I have yet to want to reenact any of the events I had seen.

[MF Perm]

Rem-meister, did you read and comprehend anything I posted?

This particular game cause a death, which was found to be linked to it.

just because the spawn of satan says the game made him kill someone, doesn't mean you can prove it.


and I read the first post about your brother not being allowed to play violent games. I started playing violent games when I was 9 I have yet to want to reenact any of the events I had seen.

Remy, all Intense is doing is describing why this happened not defending the decision.

CLUE TRAIN ALL ABOARD.


toot toot

[Intense]

Rem- I understand what you said, but I dont think it matters. If there are enough complaints which seems to be the case by family groups, then the politians will look into it and take action.