Perdue engineers debunk 9/11 conspiracy

[Enkidu]

Exactly. A single plane could have brought down the tower.

But that doesn't automatically dismiss there were additional bombs in the buildings.

A lot of people heard explosions, there is visual/audio proof of the secondary explosions. There were about a dozen or so before the collapse, throughout the building. This fact is as solid as the fact that planes flew into the buildings.

So if there was/is an entity in the government that wanted those buildings to collapse, it would only be logical that they wouldn't rely on the plane alone to do the job. I'm just using common sense here.

the popular mechanics nor the 9/11 commission report accounted for those secondary explosions. That's the beef a lot of the so called "conspiracy theorists" have.

Any secondary "explosions" people heard were probably connected to the jets that crashed into the buildings, not the La Li Lu Le Lo. That's common sense.

[Ivve]

Exactly. A single plane could have brought down the tower.

But that doesn't automatically dismiss there were additional bombs in the buildings.

A lot of people heard explosions, there is visual/audio proof of the secondary explosions. There were about a dozen or so before the collapse, throughout the building. This fact is as solid as the fact that planes flew into the buildings.

So if there was/is an entity in the government that wanted those buildings to collapse, it would only be logical that they wouldn't rely on the plane alone to do the job. I'm just using common sense here.

the popular mechanics nor the 9/11 commission report accounted for those secondary explosions. That's the beef a lot of the so called "conspiracy theorists" have.

Have you ever had a wood-burning fireplace in a home you've lived in? Fires tend to pop and crackle as they burn. I have no problem believing that any explosion-like noises could have been caused by a variety of factors that don't necessarily have to be bombs. I don't see why the government would bother to cover up the presence of bombs, when they could just as easily have said that any bombs present were planted by the same group that flew the planes into the buildings. It doesn't make any sense.

[guartz]

connected to the jets that crashed into the buildings, not the La Li Lu Le Lo. That's common sense.

No Enkidu, I apologize but I must disagree with your assertion. I find it difficult to imagine that two engines could survive the impact, and explode over a dozen times at different intervals and locations throughout the building.

For anything it's worth, I don't believe that our government did it.

[Ivve]

connected to the jets that crashed into the buildings, not the La Li Lu Le Lo. That's common sense.

No Enkidu, I apologize but I must disagree with your assertion. I find it difficult to imagine that two engines could survive the impact, and explode over a dozen times at different intervals and locations throughout the building.

For anything it's worth, I don't believe that our government did it.

I really believe that there were no extra bombs. Explosions could have been caused by such a huge number of things as they caught fire and started to burn. I'm sure there were closets full of cleaning chemicals in such a large building. If there were elevators in the building, which I assume there were, then cords being severed in a higher part of the building could have dropped a steel box down who-knows-how-many floors of the building, which may have resulted in an explosion-like sound. Debris hitting other buildings as things burned. And if you've ever had the misfortune of being in a car accident where your car catches fire, then you know that shit just doesn't stop exploding after an initial explosion. There are so many factors that could have gone into it that I don't feel the need to invent extra bombs that may or may not have been covered up by a government that has absolutely no motive to cover up.

[guartz]

I really believe that there were no extra bombs. Explosions could have been caused by such a huge number of things as they caught fire and started to burn. I'm sure there were closets full of cleaning chemicals in such a large building. If there were elevators in the building, which I assume there were, then cords being severed in a higher part of the building could have dropped a steel box down who-knows-how-many floors of the building, which may have resulted in an explosion-like sound. Debris hitting other buildings as things burned. And if you've ever had the misfortune of being in a car accident where your car catches fire, then you know that shit just doesn't stop exploding after an initial explosion. There are so many factors that could have gone into it that I don't feel the need to invent extra bombs that may or may not have been covered up by a government that has absolutely no motive to cover up.

That's a possibility. People said the explosions heard were from a kitchens that kept gas tanks for cooking and all that. But there are two problems with this.
A) Fire marshals regulations prohibit gas tanks in skyscrapers.
B) Fire wasn't throughout the entire building.
C) The elevators were air-tight (fire wouldn't travel through the shafts)
D) When the 911 emergency tapes were released, prior to the collapse, the fire-fighters who were inside battling the flames exclaimed that they heard explosions and thought there were bombs in the building.
sadly, they never made it out, of course.

[Enkidu]

connected to the jets that crashed into the buildings, not the La Li Lu Le Lo. That's common sense.

No Enkidu, I apologize but I must disagree with your assertion. I find it difficult to imagine that two engines could survive the impact, and explode over a dozen times at different intervals and locations throughout the building.

For anything it's worth, I don't believe that our government did it.

Connected. The "explosions" don't have to be from the planes fuel to be connected to explosions that inevitably were caused by the jets crashing into the building.

[guartz]

connected to the jets that crashed into the buildings, not the La Li Lu Le Lo. That's common sense.

No Enkidu, I apologize but I must disagree with your assertion. I find it difficult to imagine that two engines could survive the impact, and explode over a dozen times at different intervals and locations throughout the building.

For anything it's worth, I don't believe that our government did it.

Connected. The "explosions" don't have to be from the planes fuel to be connected to explosions that inevitably were caused by the jets crashing into the building.

Exactly, many of the explosions that occurred couldn't have been possibly in any shape or form connected to the burning jet fuels.

[aurik]

There are lots of phenomena that could cause spontaneous explosions during a chaotic even such as the one that happened at WTC.

For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashover

[guartz]

There are lots of phenomena that could cause spontaneous explosions during a chaotic even such as the one that happened at WTC.

For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flashover

spontaneous explosions and flashover are two separate things man.

[Devek]

C) The elevators were air-tight (fire wouldn't travel through the shafts)

According to eye witness accounts the elevator shafts were damaged severely, to the point of some of them falling straight down with bodies and fire coming out of them :/

If you believe there were "secondary" explosions document evidence of actual explosions or stfu.

You clearly do not understand the forces at work when a fucking skyscraper on fire is on the verge of a collapse :/

[BRP]

Devek, maybe you don't have to insult people who disagree and take this debate so personal.

[Devek]

It isn't personal.

There is something mentally wrong with these people, it is just an observation.

[Enkidu]

Exactly, many of the explosions that occurred couldn't have been possibly in any shape or form connected to the burning jet fuels.

Bigfoot lives in my backyard. Aliens abducted me. Jesus was reborn as an Elvis impersonator. Etc... Sad that people are actually bold enough to say something like that, gb2 supermarket tabloids.

In a mess like 9/11 there's no way anyone can have a clear grasp on exactly what happened, let alone say something as foolish as you just said.

[guartz]

C) The elevators were air-tight (fire wouldn't travel through the shafts)

According to eye witness accounts the elevator shafts were damaged severely, to the point of some of them falling straight down with bodies and fire coming out of them :/

If you believe there were "secondary" explosions document evidence of actual explosions or stfu.

You clearly do not understand the forces at work when a fucking skyscraper on fire is on the verge of a collapse :/

k,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcRs1fv8i3I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHvAO2oFijo
(2:05 of this film)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbFh_cDdeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g_tDv6nD9s

am i doin' it rite?

[guartz]

It isn't personal.

There is something mentally wrong with these people, it is just an observation.

well, you know. It's actually very good to have citizens who question the stats quo.

Look at Christopher Columbus. The official story is that he is a good man who discovered Americas. Why else would we have a holiday named after him? A little of investigation by unconvinced citizenry will show that nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm not saying believe nothing! I'm saying believe nothing the government says, especially these days. I think too many people forgot that the government is a necessary evil, that sometimes needs to be checked. It's in our constitution.

[Devek]

Than maybe you should of questioned the government before we got involved in Iraq instead of trying to play armchair structural engineer over the interweb.

Do you know what venting is and why it can't be done during "high rise" building fires?

[Correction]

am i doin' it rite?

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

No, you're not.

Knock it the fuck off, every fucking conspiracy theory surrounding 9/11 has been more or less smashed into the pointless shit it is by men who understand actual science.

'I heard an explosion' is not the same as 'an explosion happened.' Chances are most folks who've never heard what an explosion sounds like can properly tell the difference between the types of explosions that can occur. Hell, most folks probably can't tell a balloon popping from a car backfiring from actual gunfire.

[guartz]

Than maybe you should of questioned the government before we got involved in Iraq instead of trying to play armchair structural engineer over the interweb.

Do you know what venting is and why it can't be done during "high rise" building fires?

No I don't know what venting is. Also note, if you bothered to read my posts I never denied that the planes were the main cause for the collapse. I just said that doesn't automatically prove there weren't any bombs.

So enlighten me, what is venting and why can't it be done during "high rise" building fires? oh and while you are at it, explain to me how my questioning of our government has any connection with my alleged play of armchair structural engineer over the interweb.

[Correction]

Than maybe you should of questioned the government before we got involved in Iraq instead of trying to play armchair structural engineer over the interweb.

Do you know what venting is and why it can't be done during "high rise" building fires?

No I don't know what venting is. Also note, if you bothered to read my posts I never denied that the planes were the main cause for the collapse. I just said that doesn't automatically prove there weren't any bombs.

So enlighten me, what is venting and why can't it be done during "high rise" building fires? oh and while you are at it, explain to me how my questioning of our government has any connection with my alleged play of armchair structural engineer over the interweb.

You aren't 'questioning the government' you are 'spouting bullshit, unfounded conspiracy theories about explosives set in the WTC.'

[guartz]

am i doin' it rite?

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html

No, you're not.

Knock it the fuck off, every fucking conspiracy theory surrounding 9/11 has been more or less smashed into the pointless shit it is by men who understand actual science.

'I heard an explosion' is not the same as 'an explosion happened.' Chances are most folks who've never heard what an explosion sounds like can properly tell the difference between the types of explosions that can occur. Hell, most folks probably can't tell a balloon popping from a car backfiring from actual gunfire.

copy&paste from my previous post for those too lazy to read it.

"A lot of people heard explosions, there is visual/audio proof of the secondary explosions. There were about a dozen or so before the collapse, throughout the building. This fact is as solid as the fact that planes flew into the buildings.

So if there was/is an entity in the government that wanted those buildings to collapse, it would only be logical that they wouldn't rely on the plane alone to do the job. I'm just using common sense here.

the popular mechanics nor the 9/11 commission report accounted for those secondary explosions. That's the beef a lot of the so called "conspiracy theorists" have.'