Perdue engineers debunk 9/11 conspiracy

[guartz]

then don't argue the conspiracy Tyche, but then don't look for Absolute Proof. There is no such thing.

[Erza]

Man how could I have been so blind!!!

I'm going to watch Loose Change again and then forward it to the news, this is groundbreaking.




(PS- I find it funny that you guys think Bush would kill thousands of Americans as justification to go to Iraq, but then wouldn't plant WMDs there to make him look not so 'toopid)

Loose change is shit.

ohh damn planted wmds not there, the whole 9/11 truth movement is in shambles.

Explain to me then why NORAD didn't do anything about 4 hijacked planes in the most protected airspace on the planet since you obviously know so much about it.

Fucking Bush. His administration is smart enough to pull off possibly the largest conspiracy ever, all the while keeping everyone tight lipped about it. Oh, also keeping quiet the people who were approached about this ("Hey we want you to help us kill thousands of Americans") and denied it because they had a brain. (OMG maybe they were the REAL WTC and flight victims!) THEN put on top convincing all the reputable scientists and engineers that it was really jets crashing into the building not bombs. Man Bush is good.

But ooohhh planted WMDs not there...before Bush's second time in office, where finding WMDs could have guaranteed him another term and worldwide support. Well at least he's got the Patriot Act passed for 8 years, I mean that's real power. I know I'd risk my life in prison or a death sentence to be able to listen to 8 years of wire taps.

To be honest I don't know so much about it, but I can assure you someone who does was asking that long before you were, and they got an answer otherwise we'd be hearing about it. I'm not going to go and actually look for reasons because this is pointless. I'm not even going to debate the actual facts of the matter because they've been gone over and over and over a thousand times, and you nutbags will never accept any actual proof, but instead rely on unprovable irrational theories.

nutbags, what??

These so called "nutbags" know a hell of a lot more about everything 9/11 than 99% of the general population, the others just accept the official story and the bullshit mainstream media feeds them and thinks that anyone who believes other is crazy, wierd or whatever.

[Tyche]

then don't argue the conspiracy Tyche, but then don't look for Absolute Proof. There is no such thing.

I never argued the conspriacy, I argued ideological flaw of comparing 3 different building with 3 different structures taking damage in 3 different places.

Oh, and WTC7 took about 15 seconds to fall

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G86yuunRBIw

I'm not even prepared to argue conspiracy or not lol. I know very little, and never really cared to research. Just what I've randomly heard. I said I wasn't arguing for/against conspiracy, just that video/pictural evidence is easily debunked. Like I said, it takes a whole 10 seconds to find evidence to support any theory regarding 9/11.

[Erza]

that was easily the stupidest video I've ever seen.

[Correction]

Need a BG Forums Hall of Shame for people like Guartz. Account is three whole days old and he has spewed nothing but spam and widely discredited rubbish about 9/11 conspiracies into General. Takes a special kind of kid to make 100% of your posts useless.

[Erza]

Need a BG Forums Hall of Shame for people like Guartz. Account is three whole days old and he has spewed nothing but spam and widely discredited rubbish about 9/11 conspiracies into General. Takes a special kind of kid to make 100% of your posts useless.

discredited by pretty much the mainstream media only, you honest to god haven't got s fucking breeze what you're talking about

[Devek]

More armchair engineers?

..if the official report is wrong why don't you write your own report and use empirical evidence to show how bombs took down wtc7?

I wanna know what types of bombs were used, where they were placed, and how they affected the structure causing a collapse.

[Correction]

Need a BG Forums Hall of Shame for people like Guartz. Account is three whole days old and he has spewed nothing but spam and widely discredited rubbish about 9/11 conspiracies into General. Takes a special kind of kid to make 100% of your posts useless.

discredited by pretty much the mainstream media only, you honest to god haven't got s fucking breeze what you're talking about

Discredited by Materials Science and Photographed evidence gathered by people actually at the scene, more like it.

Steel melting? Nobody says it did. Steel at the temperatures that Jet Fuel burns at (plus everything else burning in the WTC) loses 75% of its strength. That's sufficient weakening to cause a collapse.

http://www.outokumpu.com/33342.epibrw

Plane vanishing? More like exploding into debris spread over an enormous area, not obviously visible from a lot of crash photos/footage because there was *gasp* a fire and emergency crews everywhere trying to clean up and rescue survivors.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg2.html

But yeah, keep that 'you don't know crap' attitude up, sooner or later I'm sure you'll bring the real perpetrators to justice, instead of using your conspiracy theory as a prop to attack people on irrelevant matters.

[Devek]

I think the problem is that we use science and clear logic with these people.

Maybe we would have better luck if we threw out education and just used propaganda and la la land theories to prove they are wrong. This is the type of thinking they are used to and maybe this will connect with them.

Here goes:

At 9:02 a.m. CST, the Ryder truck, which contained about 5,000 pounds (2,300 kg) of fertilizer and nitromethane mixture packed into the back, detonated in front of the north side of the nine-story Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. The blast destroyed a third of the building and created a thirty-foot (9 m) wide, eight-foot (2.4 m) deep crater on NW 5th Street next to the building. The blast destroyed or damaged 324 buildings in a sixteen-block radius, destroyed or burned 86 cars around the site, and shattered glass in 258 nearby buildings (the broken glass alone accounted for 5% of the death total and 69% of the injuries outside the Murrah Federal building). The destruction of the building left several hundred people homeless and shut down multiple offices in downtown Oklahoma City.

The effects of the blast were equivalent to 4,000 lbs (1,814 kg) of TNT, and could be heard and felt up to fifty-five miles (89 km) away. Seismometers at the Omniplex Museum in Oklahoma City (4.3 miles/7 kilometers away) and in Norman, Oklahoma (16.1 miles/26 kilometers away) recorded the blast as measuring approximately 3.0 on the Richter scale.

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I was 20 min away from this in school when this bomb went off, I could feel it shake my classroom and so did everyone else.

As you can see, American built buildings are very strong. They can not be taken down by a simple bomb and this bomb was strong enough to register a 3.0 on the Richter scale 16.1 miles away. When WTC7 fell there wasn't a 3.0 on the Richter scale at the site much less 16 miles away.

This is proof that the 911 conspiracy is a conspiracy by the government to make them look capable and stronger than they actually are.

[Mysterio]

Why is this thread still going?

Everyone knows JEWS DID 9/11!

yes, I am afraid to fly in case the jews repeat their attack of 911.

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