Another Epic Remora drama thread!

[terraflarex]

My day at work tomorrow just got more interesting.

[Beckwin]

So what's SP gonna do?

[Weltall]

Make HAPPYPANDA! I wish this thread had some screenshots..

[Admo]

What's there to screenshot? All we have is this email bouncing around. Disappointing, to say the least. ; ;

[iulus]

Could post a screenshot of me with no merits or something.

[Tharen]

/starts the coffee maker.

[Weltall]

Some shit being dropped!

[Narse]

Ferenan is estatic about seeing so many people that are better than him getting owned.

Just a tad unnecessary in this thread, man.

And him saying he's having a "pleasure seizure" over our members getting hacked is? Fuck him.

uhh lol?? In case you didn't read unspeakables post, their motive for doing it was being constantly MPK'd by you guys, and you guys trying to break up their LS? Nevermind the MPKing of other linkshells for a year+ (mine) who's supposed to feel sorry for you? People from other servers who don't know a thing about you?

Oh shit son rl pictures?? big ballin

Yes, we MPK'd your LS after we had a situation where we took claim on your Aspid, then returned it, but wouldn't show us the same courtesy when you guys claimed a KB we were fighting.

As far as 'MPKing and breaking their LS', the 'breaking their LS' post was mentioning that we had a lot of members from SP interested in joining, and we said we should take them all, watch SP break, and then kick those members. Fact is we never took anyone from SP that we weren't interested in having. We weren't ACTUALLY trying to break their LS by taking members then booting them.

And I'm not saying that anyone is s'posed to feel sorry. I'm just saying that if Synchro is gonna tell me I'm out of line for taking a shot at you, that you'd be even more out of line, that's all.

Fact is nobody really cares what you think, go ahead and have your 'pleasure seizure'. Whatever floats your boat I guess..

[Volken]

you can compare 1 event to a year of harassment until you're blue in the face, I didn't have to choke down a big fucking bowl of karma. Nobody cares what I think, but you already pulled the "ur just jealous" card and my RL pic lol?

[Doc Apoc]

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[TheUnspeakable]

Ferenan is estatic about seeing so many people that are better than him getting owned.

Just a tad unnecessary in this thread, man.

And him saying he's having a "pleasure seizure" over our members getting hacked is? Fuck him.

uhh lol?? In case you didn't read unspeakables post, their motive for doing it was being constantly MPK'd by you guys, and you guys trying to break up their LS? Nevermind the MPKing of other linkshells for a year+ (mine) who's supposed to feel sorry for you? People from other servers who don't know a thing about you?

Oh shit son rl pictures?? big ballin

Yes, we MPK'd your LS after we had a situation where we took claim on your Aspid, then returned it, but wouldn't show us the same courtesy when you guys claimed a KB we were fighting.

As far as 'MPKing and breaking their LS', the 'breaking their LS' post was mentioning that we had a lot of members from SP interested in joining, and we said we should take them all, watch SP break, and then kick those members. Fact is we never took anyone from SP that we weren't interested in having. We weren't ACTUALLY trying to break their LS by taking members then booting them.

And I'm not saying that anyone is s'posed to feel sorry. I'm just saying that if Synchro is gonna tell me I'm out of line for taking a shot at you, that you'd be even more out of line, that's all.

Fact is nobody really cares what you think, go ahead and have your 'pleasure seizure'. Whatever floats your boat I guess..

from our website "anon" posted:


cubana:
Ok so as far as drama is concerned there is none between Apathy and ATG. Plus both linkshells hate SP. I have a propostion to destroy SP once and for all and make the lives of both linkshells a little easier.

I propose we eliminate the competition between ATG and Apathy. Until we start claiming ground and ATG knows we mean business I propose we split khimaira cerb and tiamat kills 50/50.
This means alot of good things.

One consequence is that both LS's have eyes at all camps all the time. This should double our abilities to get something and monopolize wyrms etc.
Also, there are times both ATG and Apathy don't have enough members on to kill something. In these cases we could team up and kill together. I'm sure when school rolls around people wont be on at all hours, but perhaps combined we could kill anything 24/7.

The drops would go as follows and it's very simple. We take turns killing each thing. If it's our turn to claim we get drops. When it's their turn to kill they get drops. Teaming up counts as a turn also so that we alternate kills between both LS's. To make this more clear assume we killed khimaira today and got drops then ATG kills next time and get drops. Then 3rd time let's say we combine to kill. The combo kill would count as our turn since we were next in line.

We can easily dominate the server and push SP out the proverbial shithole.

Now, there's a trickier issue concerning ground HNMs. When we start claiming ground again and ATG sees this. We can do something similar with kills and drops. If it's our turn to kill we kill and take our turn's drops. When it's their turn they kill and get drops. If we team up same thing as with wyrms etc.

Another thing about this is we could consequently create a separate website on which people from both LS's can post their thoughts. That's if we agree to do this. We can set up a system where we value drops and if there's an abj one LS wants and the other doesn't need we can exchange abjs accordingly.

EX: i know we dont need anymore MBodies. We could exchange for an A body. This would help too, for one, because sometimes we dont have enough ppl on when we kill something and noone in alliance really benefits from the item. In this case if ATG is present and they want something we don't need we could give it to them with a promise of an equally valued item - we can decide on items values amongst the leaders of each shell in the future.

Another note on ground and wyrm domination: I think we can get more items we want over time if we do this. Teaming up for kills when one LS is short seems like a great idea. We could also do jorm and vrtra this way so that SP doesn't get to kill anything anymore. I know for Vrtra we need alot of numbers. If we're short we could get help. If theyre short we could help them.

Tell me what you guys think.

P.S. How pissed would the JPs be if we dominated ground during JP timer? Lol that would be awesome.

Skittles:
-Abjurations exchanges - Narse brought this up before, looks good on paper but I don't think ATG mages would be so happy about giving away A. bodies for M. bodies. And really we are the only LS on the server that is maxed out on a abjuration, I really think they are just going to want to keep what they get at this point, cause they are definatly not maxed on E and A bodies. If you can seriously trick them into it tho, more power to us I guess lol.

-Right now ATG is killing things at 4-5AM so its not thier issue, its ours. They got tons of people to tiamat in under 10 mins also. If they go for this thats good I suppose, but right now they don't need us we need them. It would be a bad time to confront them about it imo, since they got nearly everything the last 8 days.

-We are capable of killing Jorm and Vrtra as an LS if we were not so lazy...

-And SP wont die as long as they are still claiming in DA, and us teaming up with ATG does not give them any less of a chance to claim really, it just lowers/raises our chance on getting items out of it and Apathy or ATG claim. Some cases it may slightly lower thier chances of claiming but it wont be complete domination no matter who we how many or who we team up with. If your in DA with a bot you have a chance to claim and you eventually will.

Need to do things like: accept thier members who inquier about joining us... taking them to a few camps so people know they changed ls and then boot them. Its more politics then simply outclaiming if you really want to destroy an ls thats established. I mean they dont even go for Khimaria, and it seems they are maxed out on cerberus or too embarassed to fight it anymore, and they have not touched Tiamat in a long time. Spliting claims on tiamat is just going to hinder our chance of getting 2-3-4 tiamats in a row, its not going to hurt SP.

- I really think we need to work on the claiming/app issue. School should be starting for most soon also, so while we deal with claiming peoples play times will level out and we can actully gauge how large and hardcore ATG is going to be. Then we can decide if we should make some kinda proposal. Everyone has thier 15 mins.. I mean look at AM. I don't think it will come down exactly like that, but we kinda need to see if they are going to be killing things at 4 am when classes start for people, otherwise we could just be fucking ourselves.

TFX:
I agree with Skittles in that if you want to break apart SP, you'll have to start by taking the members who are interested in the shell even if there is truly no intent to keep them. As soon as anyone in SP see's a former LS member with an apathy pearl, they'll never be allowed back in so you can break apart members like that...

Killing Jorm / Vrtra isn't a bad idea either. SP likes to try to "quazi-farm" Jormungand because it's the only wyrm they have successfully killed plus there is no competetion for it seeing as it drops almost completely worthless items. If you take that away from them, it will be disheartening to their LS. I do think SP is looking to fight Tiamat again because I see Evaa's mule out there when I log on our mule(s), and ATG usually has "Shoe (a.k.a- Voidbeast?)" parked out there as well. So if they gather fast enough they will try it I imagine. However, I sincerely doubt they can kill it due to the fact that they cannot manage hate and their WHMs sub BLM for w/e retarded reason thus resulting in massive dmg during Mighty Strikes. SP has tried Vrtra numerous times now, and they haven't even come remotely close to beating it which has been bad for morale on their LS which i've seen when I log on Soleia's account (SP Officer, doesn't play as much anymore). I imagine if we go kill Jorm and Vrtra quite a few ppl from SP will want to join and we can start destroying some of their member base. Jorm is easy really, you just need a good stunner on his fast cast blizzaga III and add control; Vrtra requires significantly more people and the strat is not the same as that of the other two Wyrms, so some of the newer ppl will need to know what to expect. We definetely should kill Vrtra at the least though because we can do it and it'll really hurts SP and help us, I think. We need to schedule that in a convienient time for both time zones though because we will need the manpower. Side note: SP has gotten a lot better at cerb at least from what I saw in the last time the killed (6 days ago?) So they'll be able to put it on farm status I think if we dont keep killing it. They get hit with a lot of GoH but their mages are out of range and when you have 5 tanks you can afford to have a few die to GoH, not pretty but it works for them.

As far as ground, I also believe SP will never disintegrate until they're not claiming ground so much, and In my mind the only real solution to this is to just start botting claims again. You're not going to legit claim against two and a half (OM) LSes with bots in 90% of their alliances, period, not consistantly anyway. The only real solution to claiming ground is to man up and buy FFXIapp or to get argus fixed and bot claims as well. I don't really see ATG going for abjuration exchanges, but it's worth a shot I suppose, it just seems unlikely.

[Mifaco]

whatever will Apathy do without their 7MP/tick Ballads?

[iulus]

Got 2 more gjallarhorns to fall back on. I think it'll be just fine.

[Volken]

Anything left Narse? Unspeakable just put a pike up your ass

[Cubana]

Sorry, I just registered on this forum but couldn't get my account working, (somebody activate Skid), so this one will have to do. Somebody ask for RL pictures? Where should we start? Terra, Makaveli, Ticko, Cubana?

BTW: edit this post and it'll only get worse.

[Thormaus]

I wasn't even in Apathy at the time and I got hacked a month prior of the 5 in Apathy who did. Although my hacked experience doesn't quite compare to Iulus' or Apathy as a LS in general, with relic horn being dropped and a countless amount of triggers stolen.

I always thought SadPanda was a bunch of shady faggots. If I could go back and still MPK SP/Ominous I would. It was all worth getting shadow items dropped.

At least the truth is out. I have to admit, even though this happened several months ago, I was still always curious as to who actually did it. Kind've feel bad for Chell now. Oh well, fuck the overweight 40 year-old asian anyway.



P.S. i miss you arvonn ;(

[TheUnspeakable]

Sorry, I just registered on this forum but couldn't get my account working, (somebody activate Skid), so this one will have to do. Somebody ask for RL pictures? Where should we start? Terra, Makaveli, Ticko, Cubana?

BTW: edit this post and it'll only get worse.

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starters?

[Narse]

I don't quite feel up to rereading it, I know it talked about a lot of shit that I know wasn't truly serious (though I know if maybe it was reasonable to do we would have).. Either way, it was something posted a long ass time ago, 6 months at the earliest.

Funny thing is, you guys did more damage to yourselves trying to hurt us than we ever could've done to you. How ironic.

[Weltall]

Ohi to Wenis. He has visited our Vent server many times lol.

[TheUnspeakable]

Funny thing is, you guys did more damage to yourselves trying to hurt us than we ever could've done to you. How ironic.

Your totally right. You accused your own members for stealing.