Salvage Cell Distributions

[Kirbyprime]

We've recently came into a bit of a problem. As our Salvage LS gets more people, and with the post-update Bhaflau Remnants drop rates, we've been having an extremely hard time managing cell distributions while at the same time maintaining a steady pace killing mobs.

Our current way of distributing cells is for one person to call out who lots via a "/p Weapon: <name>, <name>, <name>" which works fine for Bifrons or Moths. Problem is that the roaches and 3rd floor flans etc drop 8-10 cells per kill and we're just too slow to lot them all. Tonight we went in and got a link in first floor roaches and we ended up losing track of equipment cells because we killed 4-5 roaches each of which dropped 8-10 cells.

Anyways, my question is:

How do your group handle cell drops?

[Wizerd]

We've recently came into a bit of a problem. As our Salvage LS gets more people, and with the post-update Bhaflau Remnants drop rates, we've been having an extremely hard time managing cell distributions while at the same time maintaining a steady pace killing mobs.

Our current way of distributing cells is for one person to call out who lots via a "/p Weapon: <name>, <name>, <name>" which works fine for Bifrons or Moths. Problem is that the roaches and 3rd floor flans etc drop 8-10 cells per kill and we're just too slow to lot them all. Tonight we went in and got a link in first floor roaches and we ended up losing track of equipment cells because we killed 4-5 roaches each of which dropped 8-10 cells.

Anyways, my question is:

How do your group handle cell drops?

For Wamouracampa just tell certain jobs to equip themselves first, make sure everyone knows they are first (usually tanks), then everyone else lot after. Have people give away cells they get duplicates of.

[TB]

We have a steady team which consists of the same people almost every time. Everyone just knows what to lot by now...

[Wizerd]

We have a steady team which consists of the same people almost every time. Everyone just knows what to lot by now...

Not everyone is so lucky hehe.

[docvicious]

Let it all random out to people, and tell them only to use it if they really think they must. We usually gow ith 10-11 to bhafflu and we just rape all the roaches. 2 mnks on one, while the rest on another. things auto lot out you have everyone equipped and ready to go withing 20-25 min the rest is just a breeze.

[Jackyl]

Have 1 person (ONE!) who knows what the hell they're doing and what cell should go to who - call out all the cell designations for a few runs. After people get used to it, they'll know when to pass and when to lot. Problem fixed.

[Jackyl]

Let it all random out to people, and tell them only to use it if they really think they must. We usually gow ith 10-11 to bhafflu and we just rape all the roaches. 2 mnks on one, while the rest on another. things auto lot out you have everyone equipped and ready to go withing 20-25 min the rest is just a breeze.

Worst idea ever. -- Actually I take that back. I know there's a group out there where one person lots all the cells then trades them out to people.. LOL.

[Aemora]

^ Wot Jackyl said.

Myself or Safer tends to call out who gets what cell on our runs, and usually we both think alike. Chest cells are pre-determined before we enter (Magic to Rdm, SJ and JA to Tank, Weapons to our two strongest Melee), and everyone more-or-less knows who's getting what equipment cell (Back/Waist to Mnks, Body to Tanks, Hands to Thf (TH4) or Blms, depending on which zone it is, Rings to Pld Tank > Mages (mostly Blms), Ranged to someone with a Ranged attack (Rng, Cor or Thf), then Brd, then Freelot, and Legs/Feet we always seem to get stuck on; Dune Boots, C.Legs, Gaiters, ... Variable on the run itself.

Weapons go Melee > Tanks > Mnks > Blm/Rdms > Whm/Brds.
Magic go Rdm > Blm > Whm/Brd/Blu > Tanks > /Nin Melee
Subjob go Tanks > /Whm Mages > /Thf (for saccing later floors) > Non /Nin melee > /Nin Melee
Job Abilities go Tanks > Melee with Weapon > Rdm > /Thf (for saccing later floors) > Whm > Blm > Brds

Of course, all of this is situational and variable depending on the run. Arrapago drops are more determined on the spot by whoever is leading the run, and Zhayolm I pre-determine everything on the first floor (/sea before you go in, and figure out what you NEED - That's what I love about Zhayolm, it's so fkn easy to farm cells for). SilverSea is a mess of every cell so that involves a lot of thinking on your feet, and Bhaflau we always go Rdm > Blmx2 on first floor and keep Subjob cells for the Socket, if it is up.

'Course, everyone has their different ways of distributing cells depending on what kind of equipment they bring to the table. So it's variable from group to group, but this is basically what we tend to follow. After 6 months of Salvaging, people just automatically know when to lot now and when to pass. ^.^

[Lordwafik]

Ventrillo or die.

I tell everyone what cell they're allowed to lot on.

[terraflarex]

Same, ventrilo (or TS if you are so inclinded) makes things so much easier.

[divisortheory]

We've recently came into a bit of a problem. As our Salvage LS gets more people, and with the post-update Bhaflau Remnants drop rates, we've been having an extremely hard time managing cell distributions while at the same time maintaining a steady pace killing mobs.

Split into two individual runs if you have so many people. Any time I hit 14 (there's actually about 18 ppl in the LS, but nobody's ever all been on at the same time. ppl always have RL stuff going on) I split into more than one.

[Wizerd]

Weapons to our two strongest Melee

Weapons go Melee > Tanks > Mnks > Blm/Rdms > Whm/Brds.

Does not compute. Monks are your strongest melee, why are they getting weapons so late? O.o; Ridill WAR may be arguable but they need subjob to outperform a MNK with it, neh?

[safer]

any other melee is pretty much useless without a weapon... whereas a monk can do fine without one

so your total damage increase from giving a melee a weapon is greater than the damage increase you get from giving a monk a weapon

teamwork ;>

(and yes ridill wars / soboro sams occasionally... or ridill sams lol)

[Wizerd]

any other melee is pretty much useless without a weapon... whereas a monk can do fine without one

so your total damage increase from giving a melee a weapon is greater than the damage increase you get from giving a monk a weapon

teamwork ;>

(and yes ridill wars / soboro sams occasionally... or ridill sams lol)

I suppose it depends on the zone, but in Silver Seas and Arrapago I find this isn't true. I can see giving the first weapon to Dragoons or Thieves first in Bhaflau/Zhayolm just to speed up Wamoura/Puks, but it'd be a stretch.

Edit: I used to give the first 2 weapons to our other melees first, then to MNKs after. Then I switched it to MNK x2 first, then melees, and our clear times went for floors in every zone by several minutes.

[Rocl]

step 1) buy a kuno
step 2) dont mess up
step 3) dont waste your cell
step 4) ability unlocked

[divisortheory]

Weapons to our two strongest Melee

Weapons go Melee > Tanks > Mnks > Blm/Rdms > Whm/Brds.

Does not compute. Monks are your strongest melee, why are they getting weapons so late? O.o; Ridill WAR may be arguable but they need subjob to outperform a MNK with it, neh?

Not in my group, lol. Arrapago is the only zone where MNKs get weapon first in my group. Relic triple damage proc and 2 handed weapons are broken as hell in Salvage. Try bringing a DRG and watching his polearm hit for 200 per swing and you'll know what I mean. Also the only zone I've tried Ridill WAR in so far is Zhayolm, but it outperformed MNK also even with no subjob .

Still, melee > tank > mnk is a little weird. i'm guessing they're using pld or nin tanks for some reason, but even then i would have said melee > mnk > tank

[Jackyl]

Weapons to our two strongest Melee

Weapons go Melee > Tanks > Mnks > Blm/Rdms > Whm/Brds.

Does not compute. Monks are your strongest melee, why are they getting weapons so late? O.o; Ridill WAR may be arguable but they need subjob to outperform a MNK with it, neh?

Not in my group, lol. Arrapago is the only zone where MNKs get weapon first in my group. Relic triple damage proc and 2 handed weapons are broken as hell in Salvage. Try bringing a DRG and watching his polearm hit for 200 per swing and you'll know what I mean. Also the only zone I've tried Ridill WAR in so far is Zhayolm, but it outperformed MNK also even with no subjob .

Still, melee > tank > mnk is a little weird. i'm guessing they're using pld or nin tanks for some reason, but even then i would have said melee > mnk > tank

Spharai in salvage is beyond broken as well. Ungodly dmg + counter tank = <33333333

[Acturus]

My group is LS based and sees 12-15 regular attendees.

Everyone has fallen into the understood pattern of cell drops, so it's easy, but I actually draft up a spreadsheet in Excel with the name of each cell, what it unlocks, and then I list the first 7-8 names under each cell based on what we're doing and where we're targetting. Everyone gets a post in our forum debriefing them on what we're hitting next, and how we plan on doing it.

I then send the spredsheet to a person who's entire job in Salvage is to call cells. He's another MNK so his involvement can be punch and read if necessary. My wife is my backup cell caller because she plays on the PS2 while I play on laptop, and I can yell at her faster than I can type.

Cells that fall out of the treasure pool are bazaared by those who are holding them, and they announce over the event LS channel that they have one for the cell caller or myself to verify.

It works for us as well as can be expected. A Vent/TS system is better, but our group doesn't have enough people with access to Vent (lolPS2).

When you deal with high drop rates, your group MUST be on the ball with lotting, even if they aren't on the ball with passing. Even dropped cells drop to the highest lot first.

[terraflarex]

My group is LS based and sees 12-15 regular attendees.
(lolPS2)

Destroy the infidel.

[Wizerd]

Weapons to our two strongest Melee

Weapons go Melee > Tanks > Mnks > Blm/Rdms > Whm/Brds.

Does not compute. Monks are your strongest melee, why are they getting weapons so late? O.o; Ridill WAR may be arguable but they need subjob to outperform a MNK with it, neh?

Not in my group, lol. Arrapago is the only zone where MNKs get weapon first in my group. Relic triple damage proc and 2 handed weapons are broken as hell in Salvage. Try bringing a DRG and watching his polearm hit for 200 per swing and you'll know what I mean. Also the only zone I've tried Ridill WAR in so far is Zhayolm, but it outperformed MNK also even with no subjob .

Still, melee > tank > mnk is a little weird. i'm guessing they're using pld or nin tanks for some reason, but even then i would have said melee > mnk > tank

Mmm, my group has no relics or Ridills, so naturally MNKs with weapons is the highest increase possible in our situation, in any zone.