This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

[Alisha]

If you Boost before Warcry, Warcry has no effect. If someone Warcry's before your Boost, Boost has no effect as well. I just generally hate Warcry on WAR or MNK and never use it other then a Hate tool. Crappy attack boost for major hate and on MNK I just hate it cause it screws up Boost.

ive tried explaining this to wars i merit with but they never listen so i make sure to cancel warcry before boosting because if you boost right before warcry would of worn off you get a message saying boost wore off.

[Stelaereous]

This is an Epic LOLpost.

[Jpeg]

Simple solution: Use Warcry and Aggressor at the same time, merit only Berserk and Double Attack from old merits. Iono I've always used Agg and Warcry at the same time, so I wouldnt have noticed a loss in acc ever. Its a great way to keep your WS consistent if you wait 2 min or so to stagger Bersk and have either Aggressor or Bersk on at all times. For WAR I think its safe to say with all the haste gear available you gotta use sushi.

on topic of MNK, who the FUCK uses Warcry on MNK?! ever?

[Crosis]

MNKs who want to tank and pray for a Guard skill up!

[Alisha]

the problem isnt monks using warcry is other people in the party using warcry.

[Vejitta]

Whenever I Rampage with offhand Ridill during Warcry I have Double Attack on WS. That's a proof that Warcry enhances Double Attack on WS while weilding Ridill!!

FFS, I'm tossing this topic to my favourites/the most derailed and retarded topic bookmark -_- Even Allakhazam topics make more sense...

[Ashira]

Using boost repeatably lower the accuracy of your Chi Blast. You might even miss. This is why /WHM is the best sub for Chi Blasting MNKs because their "Magic Defense" traits naturally increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, which is Light based... like White Mage. (Also, facing North increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, but you'll get more Critical Hit Chi Blasts if you face North East instead, because of Dark).

i lol'd

don't forget the apollo's staff~!

[Obev]

Using boost repeatably lower the accuracy of your Chi Blast. You might even miss. This is why /WHM is the best sub for Chi Blasting MNKs because their "Magic Defense" traits naturally increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, which is Light based... like White Mage. (Also, facing North increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, but you'll get more Critical Hit Chi Blasts if you face North East instead, because of Dark).

i lol'd

don't forget the apollo's staff~!

Sniper's rings reducing dark magic accuracy.

[Ferien]

Using boost repeatably lower the accuracy of your Chi Blast. You might even miss. This is why /WHM is the best sub for Chi Blasting MNKs because their "Magic Defense" traits naturally increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, which is Light based... like White Mage. (Also, facing North increases the accuracy of Chi Blast, but you'll get more Critical Hit Chi Blasts if you face North East instead, because of Dark).

i lol'd

don't forget the apollo's staff~!

Sniper's rings reducing dark magic accuracy.

Well duh, that's why DRKs should never wear Sniper's Rings. Death Ring ftw, it gives MP AND Dark MAcc. What more could you want!?

[Skyylya]

This is hard to detect who's really serious about what their saying and who's sarcastic

I really think the link guy thinks atk has something to do with chi blast

[Francisco II]

I've used Warcry as MNK/WAR immediately following my WS, if we're making a skillchain, and someone else (non-MNK, non-WAR, non-/WAR) was closing, but that was really only from 70-72 in Bibiki Bay.

[Huggo]

"Provoke raises enmity and lowers -enmity." is my new favorite quote in the whole wide world.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Warcry lowers sight? Now we know why Takedown meritied (I typo'd that and now I'm keeping it) it!

"Provoke raises enmity and lowers -enmity." is my new favorite quote in the whole wide world.

I'm guessing they either mean it lowers the amount of enmity that slowly diminishes or lowers the amount of enmity lost when you do...-enmity stuff. I know shit about Provoke so I'unno.

P.S. You pronounce merity like you would parry.

[Vic]

"Provoke increases enmity and decreases - enmity"

This guy just made my day and there will still be some win left over for tomorrow.

[SassiAsura]

Wonder what their opinion on tungi is.

[Septimus]

Wonder what their opinion on tungi is.

Probably that it raises your chance to double attack, but it simultaneously lowers your chance to single attack.

Yeah yeah, I know, no hidden effect, but I couldn't pass it up...

[Eddie]

man the only reason I /war is for Warcry.

[moguri]

"Provoke raises enmity and lowers -enmity." is my new favorite quote in the whole wide world.

This is the best quote in the whole screenshot

[othellojr]

intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack. its a much lower atk up than boost so usually monks should just use boost and not both together. also he made a comment about double attacking on asurans fist. from my knowledge and being a main monk for 4 years of this game.. there is no way to double attack on asurans .. ever. the game caps the amt of hit per round at 8. that y you cant stack kraken club and ridill attacks for more than 8 hits per round. (plus i would love to see somone even with relic do 1800 asurans on a regular basis....)

I dont know the validity of his statements about warcry but he does have some flaws in his arguments.

Just wanted to point out, you forgot, if you miss, you will get a chance to DA on Asuran, but you are right that it would not go beyond 8 hits..but it still Can.

[Francisco II]

Just wanted to point out, you forgot, if you miss, you will get a chance to DA on Asuran, but you are right that it would not go beyond 8 hits..but it still Can.

Debatable, and nearly impossible to prove.

The only method I can think of, is to gimp your gear down to no +ACC, fight something with high evasion/low defense a few hundred times, and use Asuran Fists with and without Brutal Earring a few hundred times each. Compare results.

Even then, it'd be kind of a shitty test. If you miss a double attacked swing in a WS, how do you know you swung at all?

Edit: I think a better test would be to find a Kraken/Ridill WAR. If they miss a swing or two with Kraken (on an 8 swing proc), can the Ridill still attack 2-3 times? I'm betting no.