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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki
    intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack. its a much lower atk up than boost so usually monks should just use boost and not both together. also he made a comment about double attacking on asurans fist. from my knowledge and being a main monk for 4 years of this game.. there is no way to double attack on asurans .. ever. the game caps the amt of hit per round at 8. that y you cant stack kraken club and ridill attacks for more than 8 hits per round. (plus i would love to see somone even with relic do 1800 asurans on a regular basis....)

    I dont know the validity of his statements about warcry but he does have some flaws in his arguments.
    Just wanted to point out, you forgot, if you miss, you will get a chance to DA on Asuran, but you are right that it would not go beyond 8 hits..but it still Can.
    No, the attack round cap is 8, not the hit cap. That is, if you swing 8 times and miss, you won't get to swing a 9th. So no, you cannot double attack on Asuran.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki
    intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack.

    http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...0626145912.jpg

    Sorry for it being a whole stupid image, i do not currently have a photo editor with which to crop screenshots.

    It won't overwrite; it has no effect.

    EDIT: blah, why does photobucket have to be not working right now... stupid !@#$@#

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki
    intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack. its a much lower atk up than boost so usually monks should just use boost and not both together. also he made a comment about double attacking on asurans fist. from my knowledge and being a main monk for 4 years of this game.. there is no way to double attack on asurans .. ever. the game caps the amt of hit per round at 8. that y you cant stack kraken club and ridill attacks for more than 8 hits per round. (plus i would love to see somone even with relic do 1800 asurans on a regular basis....)

    I dont know the validity of his statements about warcry but he does have some flaws in his arguments.
    Just wanted to point out, you forgot, if you miss, you will get a chance to DA on Asuran, but you are right that it would not go beyond 8 hits..but it still Can.
    No, the attack round cap is 8, not the hit cap. That is, if you swing 8 times and miss, you won't get to swing a 9th. So no, you cannot double attack on Asuran.
    Theres really no way to prove if you miss a hit and double attack, personally I think you can believe w/e you want, get some good gear and merits and you wont need a double attack to cover your misses

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashira
    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki
    intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack.

    http://www.imagehosting.com/out.php/...0626145912.jpg

    Sorry for it being a whole stupid image, i do not currently have a photo editor with which to crop screenshots.

    It won't overwrite; it has no effect.

    EDIT: blah, why does photobucket have to be not working right now... stupid !@#$@#
    thanks for the correction, that is what i ment. Usally somone uses warcry a little longer before a monk will boost to ws as it lasts longer and does not go after only one hit. so many times monks boost gets wasted as the effect does not work while warcry is active.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Minions
    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by othellojr
    Quote Originally Posted by Takiwaki
    intresting read .. just to add. Warcry does cancel monk boost. it overwrites it and does not stack. its a much lower atk up than boost so usually monks should just use boost and not both together. also he made a comment about double attacking on asurans fist. from my knowledge and being a main monk for 4 years of this game.. there is no way to double attack on asurans .. ever. the game caps the amt of hit per round at 8. that y you cant stack kraken club and ridill attacks for more than 8 hits per round. (plus i would love to see somone even with relic do 1800 asurans on a regular basis....)

    I dont know the validity of his statements about warcry but he does have some flaws in his arguments.
    Just wanted to point out, you forgot, if you miss, you will get a chance to DA on Asuran, but you are right that it would not go beyond 8 hits..but it still Can.
    No, the attack round cap is 8, not the hit cap. That is, if you swing 8 times and miss, you won't get to swing a 9th. So no, you cannot double attack on Asuran.
    Theres really no way to prove if you miss a hit and double attack, personally I think you can believe w/e you want, get some good gear and merits and you wont need a double attack to cover your misses
    Sure there is. Get a Ridill, get a Kraken, go out and put full hecatomb on.

    When you see Kraken go: Hit, Hit, Hit, Miss, Hit, Hit, Miss, Hit
    and then Ridill doesn't swing, you just proved that there is a cap of 8 swings per attack round.

    Since AF is a guaranteed 8-swings, if you miss double attack won't kick in, because then you'd be swinging more than 8 times.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    uh wtf its easy to test based on tp gain. you just need the first hit to miss. ive had asuran's with less than 10 tp return do full damage.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alisha
    uh wtf its easy to test based on tp gain. you just need the first hit to miss. ive had asuran's with less than 10 tp return do full damage.
    Critical hits, of course.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by LinktheDeme
    If your already at 999 attack cap there wouldn't be one.
    I think 999 is only the maximum that you can have displayed in your equip window, but for the purposes of damage formula calculation your attack can be higher. I've seen neither proof nor refutation of this, just sort of assumed it to be the case.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by moguri
    Quote Originally Posted by Huggo
    "Provoke raises enmity and lowers -enmity." is my new favorite quote in the whole wide world.
    This is the best quote in the whole screenshot
    Agreed, it's seriously brilliant.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    In page 2 there's a screencapture of the wiki for warcry.
    It says it's based on a certain percentage around 5% or so... wth ever happened to 14 + ((War level - 35)/5)

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphusRagnarok
    Is that pic not shopped? If it is a shop, it's very well done. Kudos to whoever made it.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Titan at its finest!

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire
    Quote Originally Posted by SeraphusRagnarok
    Is that pic not shopped? If it is a shop, it's very well done. Kudos to whoever made it.
    No, it's definitely shooped. That's one of my favorite games, Alucard is telling his father Dracula(Alucard is Dracula spelled backwards for any who didn't know) that he was doomed ever since he lost the ability to love.

    Dracula - according to the game's story hated humans because they killed his wife, etc etc.
    (Alucard is 1/2 human 1/2 vampire.)

    Or at least that's how I remember it, been a LONG time since I played it.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    Alucard is Dracula spelled backwards for any who didn't know
    http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...2318953386.gif

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    omg i love these pictures... its the reason why i love BG...

    more more!

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    You jest Priran, but back in the days when that game came out people really WERE like that hearing about it. It was sad.

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    You jest Priran, but back in the days when that game came out people really WERE like that hearing about it. It was sad.
    I still remember when my brother pointed that out to me and man definetly an "OH SNAP" moment

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Charismatic
    You jest Priran, but back in the days when that game came out people really WERE like that hearing about it. It was sad.
    I still remember when my brother pointed that out to me and man definetly an "OH SNAP" moment
    I was like the kid in Monster Squad, I started to write it out and was shocked. I mean how could I be playing Castlevania II, fighting against Dracula, when I played as him?

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    Re: This just in: Warcry lowers ACC. Proof inside.

    Alucard is Dracula backwards huh, but can he see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

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