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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertabreaker
    I saw Transformers this past Saturday and I have to say I was disappointed. On a purly entertainment level it is made of win(Huge robots destroying each other and the city they're in), but as far as accuracy goes in comparison to the original cartoon, it fails so hard so many times over.

    The issues I had with it far out-weighed everything else which made this movie just "meh" to me.

    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    5. Plot = horrible
    6. Acting = terrible
    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.

    I could go on on.

    I didn't see Nicolas Cage a single time in that movie.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Pyro

    I didn't see Nicolas Cage a single time in that movie.
    Hahahahaha. Probably the most amazing quote ever.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    You have to remember though, Hasbro, the company that made Transformers what it is in America, created how the Transformers would look in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
    You have to remember though, Hasbro, the company that made Transformers what it is in America, created how the Transformers would look in the movie.
    Hasbro can rot in hell. Did you also know that Hasbro is the reason 75% of the original Transformers got killed off in the original movie? They wanted to discontinue making most of the action figures to they told the artists animating the movie to kill off most of them.

    Fucking hasbro, pissing on my childhood

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    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    This wasn't really worth crying about.

    2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    Actually, every transformer had a proto-transformation until they scanned an object. They could have made him his classic gun or the generation 2 tank but would that have made as much sense? I guess it would have.

    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    They had to update the transformers to today's world. Ironhide made sense as a truck. Ratchet would have been better as an ambulance, I agree. Jazz wasn't a Porsche, he was a Pontiac Solstice... and in light of the character he portrayed it made sense.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    That was Brawl. Typo on the subtitles, suppsoedly.

    5. Plot = horrible
    Plot was great. Only a few holes with one or two unnecessary scenes.

    6. Acting = terrible
    The acting wasn't supposed to be spectacular. This was based on a children's TV show and toy line for crying out loud.

    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    The movie wouldn't have worked with the original origin storyline.

    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    So f'kin agreeing with this... Turturro ruined most of the movie for me.

    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.
    Needed more Starscream/Megatron screentime in general.

    Hasbro can rot in hell. Did you also know that Hasbro is the reason 75% of the original Transformers got killed off in the original movie? They wanted to discontinue making most of the action figures to they told the artists animating the movie to kill off most of them.
    The script called for most of the older autobots to die as toy sales were declining. The only reason they killed Optimus was because they caught wind of the GI Joe movie killing Duke. When GI Joe saw what killing Optimus did, they changed the ending (thus screwing over Transformers fans everywhere).

    Fucking hasbro, pissing on my childhood
    Maybe this will help:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahkPzIHSL4

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Vertabreaker
    I saw Transformers this past Saturday and I have to say I was disappointed. On a purly entertainment level it is made of win(Huge robots destroying each other and the city they're in), but as far as accuracy goes in comparison to the original cartoon, it fails so hard so many times over.

    The issues I had with it far out-weighed everything else which made this movie just "meh" to me.

    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    5. Plot = horrible
    6. Acting = terrible
    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.

    I could go on on.
    Wow lol, your reasons are retarded.

    This isn't Macbeth bro, it's Transformers. The movie wasn't trying to move you with it's heart warming dialog or jaw-dropping plot twists. It was trying to entertain you with giant robot's shooting one another and a little lol's on the side.

    How was the acting bad? Were the looks on the marine's faces not genuine enough when the robots were chasing them? Seriously, I don't get you people who wine about the most retarded things. Do people complain about there not being enough action scenes in a shakespearean play? No you say? I wonder why? Perhaps that just isn't the point of the film?

    And LOL at the Megatron's faceplate. Seriously, is it that big a deal?
    Jesus christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Vertabreaker
    I saw Transformers this past Saturday and I have to say I was disappointed. On a purly entertainment level it is made of win(Huge robots destroying each other and the city they're in), but as far as accuracy goes in comparison to the original cartoon, it fails so hard so many times over.

    The issues I had with it far out-weighed everything else which made this movie just "meh" to me.

    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    5. Plot = horrible
    6. Acting = terrible
    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.

    I could go on on.
    Wow lol, your reasons are retarded.

    This isn't Macbeth bro, it's Transformers. The movie wasn't trying to move you with it's heart moving dialog or jaw-dropping plot twists. It was trying to entertain you with giant robot's shooting one another and a little lol's on the side.

    How was the acting bad? Were the looks on the marine's faces not genuine enough when the robots were chasing them? Seriously, I don't get you people who wine about the most retarded things. Do people complain about there not being enough action scenes in a shakespearean play? No you say? I wonder why? Perhaps that just isn't the point of the film?

    Jesus christ.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Vertabreaker
    I saw Transformers this past Saturday and I have to say I was disappointed. On a purly entertainment level it is made of win(Huge robots destroying each other and the city they're in), but as far as accuracy goes in comparison to the original cartoon, it fails so hard so many times over.

    The issues I had with it far out-weighed everything else which made this movie just "meh" to me.

    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    5. Plot = horrible
    6. Acting = terrible
    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.

    I could go on on.
    Wow lol, your reasons are retarded.

    This isn't Macbeth bro, it's Transformers. The movie wasn't trying to move you with it's heart warming dialog or jaw-dropping plot twists. It was trying to entertain you with giant robot's shooting one another and a little lol's on the side.

    How was the acting bad? Were the looks on the marine's faces not genuine enough when the robots were chasing them? Seriously, I don't get you people who wine about the most retarded things. Do people complain about there not being enough action scenes in a shakespearean play? No you say? I wonder why? Perhaps that just isn't the point of the film?

    .

    You can call my reasons retarded. Doesn't bother me in the least. I thought this movie was sub-par for the same reasons that I hated Spider-man, the Hulk, X-Men, etc. The attention to detail on a show that I grew up on wasn't there. They took such a great show and fucking ruined it. That's as simple as it gets.

    They brought in actors that were not needed and made them part of the movie when they didn't need to.

    I already said it once, and I'll say it again, it was entertaining. That's it. I'll agree that the fight scenes were cool and such, but for me it boiled down to them taking something that was great and they thought of every way possible to ruin it. In that aspect, they succeeded 100%.

    This movie was adapted to meet the demands of people who don't even know what the original Transformers was/was about. Plain and simple.

    And LOL at the Megatron's faceplate. Seriously, is it that big a deal?
    Jesus christ
    I said prime's faceplate, not Megatrons. Although Megatron looked absolutly fucking stupid, that's a whole different issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertabreaker

    This movie was adapted to meet the demands of people who don't even know what the original Transformers was/was about. Plain and simple.
    Well to me, Transformers was all about Saturday morning entertainment and toys to look forward to. Once I outgrew it I left it behind.

    So as far as I'm concerned the movie did what it was supposed to me for me: entertain me with robot missiles and transforming. Everything else was ambiance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan
    1. Since when does Optimus have a mouth? He should've kept up his "battle shield(original "mouth")" the whole time.
    This wasn't really worth crying about.

    [quote:e501e]2. Megatron was never a Cybertronian plane...ever
    Actually, every transformer had a proto-transformation until they scanned an object. They could have made him his classic gun or the generation 2 tank but would that have made as much sense? I guess it would have.

    3. Jazz was not a porche = fail. Ironhide not a van = fail. Ratchet = Humvee = fail.
    They had to update the transformers to today's world. Ironhide made sense as a truck. Ratchet would have been better as an ambulance, I agree. Jazz wasn't a Porsche, he was a Pontiac Solstice... and in light of the character he portrayed it made sense.
    4. Devistator as a tank = ultra fail
    That was Brawl. Typo on the subtitles, suppsoedly.

    5. Plot = horrible
    Plot was great. Only a few holes with one or two unnecessary scenes.

    6. Acting = terrible
    The acting wasn't supposed to be spectacular. This was based on a children's TV show and toy line for crying out loud.

    7. The reason the Transformers fled to Earth was not for some stupid cube
    The movie wouldn't have worked with the original origin storyline.

    8. John Turtoro(Spelling?) was totally un-needed.
    So f'kin agreeing with this... Turturro ruined most of the movie for me.

    9. As said before, needed moar Megatron/Starscream power struggle.
    Needed more Starscream/Megatron screentime in general.

    Hasbro can rot in hell. Did you also know that Hasbro is the reason 75% of the original Transformers got killed off in the original movie? They wanted to discontinue making most of the action figures to they told the artists animating the movie to kill off most of them.
    The script called for most of the older autobots to die as toy sales were declining. The only reason they killed Optimus was because they caught wind of the GI Joe movie killing Duke. When GI Joe saw what killing Optimus did, they changed the ending (thus screwing over Transformers fans everywhere).

    Fucking hasbro, pissing on my childhood
    Maybe this will help:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OahkPzIHSL4[/quote:e501e]
    I approve of this quote and quoting how long it is.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    After watching the movie, did anyone else have the urge to build a little robot with simple 'kill all humans' AI and let it free in the world? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siniroth
    After watching the movie, did anyone else have the urge to build a little robot with simple 'kill all humans' AI and let it free in the world? :D
    No, but broke out my Total Annihilations CDs to play again, and just bought Supreme Commander. :D

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    It was worth my $8.25, but theres definitely room for some improvement in the sequel. Specifically:

    -Less jumpy camera - maybe its a Bay thing, but it happens a lot in action movies and it makes it impossible to tell whats happening on screen.
    -More depth to the Decepticons (and the Autobots too, for that matter) - they barely had any lines or story. Granted its the first movie but a bit more interaction would have been great. Even 1 extra minute with a few lines of dialogue between Megatron and Starscream could have fleshed them out a lot more.
    -And speaking of dialogue - better dialogue. Sometimes it seemed like the writers were all 12 year olds.

    And in terms of nerdy hopes: red Ironhide, white ambulance Ratchet, Soundwave (+minions), Shockwave, and some Constructicons. And a new Autobot or two - maybe Wheeljack or Hound; Prowl would be good but it might confuse some people with Barricade already in the first. Unless they had them both, for a cop car duel. Not sure how the Dinobots could work. Wheelie can stay and guard the base.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    My take:

    Ironhide/Prime/Bumblebee - Keep as is
    Ratchet - Give him white paint job
    Jazz - Bring him back
    Starscream - Give him Thundercracker as a wingman and have him scan an F-14 please!
    Barricade - Uh, show wtf happened to him

    New ones:

    Hound - Add hound, have him scan an army hummer
    Prowl - Add as foil to Barricade, can scan a Chevy-whatever cop car
    Soundwave - Have him scan an on-stage sound system or an XM/Sirius Satellite
    Shockwave - Starscream should bring him back with him along with Thundercracker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    It was worth my $8.25, but theres definitely room for some improvement in the sequel. Specifically:

    -Less jumpy camera - maybe its a Bay thing, but it happens a lot in action movies and it makes it impossible to tell whats happening on screen.
    It's a Michael Bay thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    Not sure how the Dinobots could work.
    Probably the third movie when they start to run out of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    It was worth my $8.25, but theres definitely room for some improvement in the sequel. Specifically:

    -Less jumpy camera - maybe its a Bay thing, but it happens a lot in action movies and it makes it impossible to tell whats happening on screen.
    It's a Michael Bay thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    Not sure how the Dinobots could work.
    Probably the third movie when they start to run out of ideas.
    The way the plot is set up it'd be so easy to write them in. They landed on the earth 65 million years ago through a time warp. They scanned the dinosaurs and lived among them. They're buried beneath the earth yadda yadda yadda excavation - boom Dinobots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    It was worth my $8.25, but theres definitely room for some improvement in the sequel. Specifically:

    -Less jumpy camera - maybe its a Bay thing, but it happens a lot in action movies and it makes it impossible to tell whats happening on screen.
    It's a Michael Bay thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    Not sure how the Dinobots could work.
    Probably the third movie when they start to run out of ideas.
    The way the plot is set up it'd be so easy to write them in. They landed on the earth 65 million years ago through a time warp. They scanned the dinosaurs and lived among them. They're buried beneath the earth yadda yadda yadda excavation - boom Dinobots.
    I wouldn't mind seeing Grimlok own the shit out of something.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm
    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    It was worth my $8.25, but theres definitely room for some improvement in the sequel. Specifically:

    -Less jumpy camera - maybe its a Bay thing, but it happens a lot in action movies and it makes it impossible to tell whats happening on screen.
    It's a Michael Bay thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Avinor
    Not sure how the Dinobots could work.
    Probably the third movie when they start to run out of ideas.
    The way the plot is set up it'd be so easy to write them in. They landed on the earth 65 million years ago through a time warp. They scanned the dinosaurs and lived among them. They're buried beneath the earth yadda yadda yadda excavation - boom Dinobots.
    Brilliant. And to see Grimlock...dear Jesus, that would be wonderful.

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    Re: TRANSFORMERS

    Needs more Unicron and revive Orson Welles to do the voice again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yangsing
    Needs more Unicron and revive Orson Welles to do the voice again.
    Some of Wells' dying words were about how he despised the idea that the last film he was ever in the credits for (to his knowledge) was just an ad to sell toys.

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