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  1. #61
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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Oddly enough, that's the same time and fee for BRD 1-75.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    50 days and 16 hours... If they could be a little more specific on the estimated time, I might do it.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Laughable timeframe, cost, and gil investment (for applicable items). Overall Izzy's thing is a better deal.

    And with respect to Gunbound.....it's the only game I've ever played that's less mature than Runescape. I've never met a playerbase that was so fucking stupid, both in game and in chat. I ended up quitting within 2 days or so.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    http://www.dlnsgaming.com/poweritem.php?fid=221

    They mean 10,000 Limit points...

    Someone buy that service, then when they only get you 1 merit point, sue the fuckers.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
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    Progress Quest?
    Wow, I just googled for this, it's awesome. My Bastard Lunatic Gyrognome is kicking arse in systray!
    But seriously, there are so many people who want everything just handed to them, buy characters, RMT gil, pay for rare/ex items, so on and so forth. Why even play the game?

    If you lost your character, and had to do everything over again, would you? Last I checked, exp grinding/finding help for genkai/missions/CoP/Zilart isnt easy. So I can see why some people would opt to buy an account.



    Right now i'm I have a situation where my brother and I have been sharing the same account. I took a break for WoW, and just decided that I want to get back into FFXI. In the time that I was gone though, my bro got his BRD to 67, and i have 3 jobs at 75. He's starting to get serious into the game and wants to play more on his own. Now its either on me to be the nice older brother and give him my account, or tell him to start over.

    What would you do? Start over? To hell with that idea. If I was rich, I'd buy an account and some starter gil np. Unfortunately though, I value my money.
    Or you could always use the first character to PL a second character for your brother... It took me a year to get WHM 75, BRD 75, and BLM 60 on my second character- but I leveled incredibly slowly because I have LS events 5 nights a week. You could knock out WHM/BLM to 37-42 (for teleports) in two weeks tops, then focus on BRD. You could probably have his bard at 67 in two months from start, with a respectable amount of missions accomplished.
    Only takes 3 weeks to get bard from 40-75 , 67-75 shouldnt be long.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or you could always use the first character to PL a second character for your brother... It took me a year to get WHM 75, BRD 75, and BLM 60 on my second character- but I leveled incredibly slowly because I have LS events 5 nights a week. You could knock out WHM/BLM to 37-42 (for teleports) in two weeks tops, then focus on BRD. You could probably have his bard at 67 in two months from start, with a respectable amount of missions accomplished.
    Two months is a lot... two months of grinding out exp on BLM, WHM, and BRD (or any jobs, really) will make a zombie of anyone. And let's say one accomplishes this by playing for four hours a day, 20 days each month (less than most hardcore end gamers). That's 160 hours total, which, if spent working a job at a minimum wage of say $7/hr, would earn $1120, enough for two or three accounts from IGE with characters having jobs in the upper 60s.

    Different parts of the game are fun for different people. Some people take great pride in putting countless hours into achieving their own accomplishments; some would rather pay the Chinese to do it. One could even argue that buyers are simply keeping "work" as "work", using money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG they wish to enjoy during their time off. Obviously the RMT salvage runs are ridiculous, but RMT as a whole makes sense, especially trading between regular players (selling accounts or items directly).

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Potentate
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or you could always use the first character to PL a second character for your brother... It took me a year to get WHM 75, BRD 75, and BLM 60 on my second character- but I leveled incredibly slowly because I have LS events 5 nights a week. You could knock out WHM/BLM to 37-42 (for teleports) in two weeks tops, then focus on BRD. You could probably have his bard at 67 in two months from start, with a respectable amount of missions accomplished.
    Two months is a lot... two months of grinding out exp on BLM, WHM, and BRD (or any jobs, really) will make a zombie of anyone. And let's say one accomplishes this by playing for four hours a day, 20 days each month (less than most hardcore end gamers). That's 160 hours total, which, if spent working a job at a minimum wage of say $7/hr, would earn $1120, enough for two or three accounts from IGE with characters having jobs in the upper 60s.

    Different parts of the game are fun for different people. Some people take great pride in putting countless hours into achieving their own accomplishments; some would rather pay the Chinese to do it. One could even argue that buyers are simply keeping "work" as "work", using money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG they wish to enjoy during their time off. Obviously the RMT salvage runs are ridiculous, but RMT as a whole makes sense, especially trading between regular players (selling accounts or items directly).
    If I told you the sky was blue, would you be one of those people that would argue with me that the color is more of a light blue or baby blue?

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    fools, the price should be around 2,000 and the days into the months!

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy
    If I told you the sky was blue, would you be one of those people that would argue with me that the color is more of a light blue or baby blue?
    Looks purple to me...

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Drinhkinn
    Quote Originally Posted by Izzy
    If I told you the sky was blue, would you be one of those people that would argue with me that the color is more of a light blue or baby blue?
    Looks purple to me...
    Badum-dum-tsshh!

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Potentate
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Or you could always use the first character to PL a second character for your brother... It took me a year to get WHM 75, BRD 75, and BLM 60 on my second character- but I leveled incredibly slowly because I have LS events 5 nights a week. You could knock out WHM/BLM to 37-42 (for teleports) in two weeks tops, then focus on BRD. You could probably have his bard at 67 in two months from start, with a respectable amount of missions accomplished.
    Two months is a lot... two months of grinding out exp on BLM, WHM, and BRD (or any jobs, really) will make a zombie of anyone. And let's say one accomplishes this by playing for four hours a day, 20 days each month (less than most hardcore end gamers). That's 160 hours total, which, if spent working a job at a minimum wage of say $7/hr, would earn $1120, enough for two or three accounts from IGE with characters having jobs in the upper 60s.

    Different parts of the game are fun for different people. Some people take great pride in putting countless hours into achieving their own accomplishments; some would rather pay the Chinese to do it. One could even argue that buyers are simply keeping "work" as "work", using money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG they wish to enjoy during their time off. Obviously the RMT salvage runs are ridiculous, but RMT as a whole makes sense, especially trading between regular players (selling accounts or items directly).
    In for a penny, in for a pound. If you don't like level grinding, go play another game. If you don't like trying to make money, go play another game. This game is time-intensive, it takes time to accomplish anything of importance. People who use "money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG" are useless leaches and rarely ever learn how to play their jobs correctly.

    Just because you have no concept of the value of money that you are willing to throw it away for video game accomplishments does not mean that it makes sense for people who were taught not to fritter away what they earn. If you don't feel like playing the game that you play, go here and download it. It's even better than RMT because it is free- just sit back and watch everything happen for you.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Progress Quest is the best game I've ever not played

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    I see your Progess Quest and raise you This.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    In for a penny, in for a pound. If you don't like level grinding, go play another game. If you don't like trying to make money, go play another game. This game is time-intensive, it takes time to accomplish anything of importance. People who use "money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG" are useless leaches and rarely ever learn how to play their jobs correctly.
    Says who (though I agree bought accounts usually suck at their jobs)? Why does it have to be a career instead of a good time? I wasn't saying RMT is right, just that it makes sense. It was in response to the type of generalizations people make like "why would someone ever use real money on a game blah blah." It makes sense - mostly in the situation that the guy brought up about giving his account to his brother - not to start over and redo things when you can buy it.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Potentate
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    In for a penny, in for a pound. If you don't like level grinding, go play another game. If you don't like trying to make money, go play another game. This game is time-intensive, it takes time to accomplish anything of importance. People who use "money from their career to skip to the fun parts of a MMORPG" are useless leaches and rarely ever learn how to play their jobs correctly.
    Says who (though I agree bought accounts usually suck at their jobs)? Why does it have to be a career instead of a good time? I wasn't saying RMT is right, just that it makes sense. It was in response to the type of generalizations people make like "why would someone ever use real money on a game blah blah." It makes sense - mostly in the situation that the guy brought up about giving his account to his brother - not to start over and redo things when you can buy it.
    The Special Task Force designed for the sole purpose of curtailing RMT activity in the game my have an opinion on that "Says who" matter.

    And RMT does not make sense no matter how you look at it unless money has no value to you. Games come with rules- you can only run at a certain speed, you can only make money in certain ways, you can only claim monsters at a certain time. People don't get to break the rules because they they don't feel like obeying them. People love to use the "I don't have time to farm, I just want to play" excuse for buying gil. Exactly what makes one person's time so valuable that they can disregard the ToS? Maybe those people who don't have time to properly play the game shouldn't play it at all? I mean, someone who doesn't have the time to farm up gil to get shiny armor for their jobs that they never played on a character that they bought also doesn't have the time to bother to learn how to play those jobs.

    In the end, they are a bunch of self-important people who believe that they are so much more special that everyone else. Over-grown brats who think that the world should be handed to them simply because they want it and fear actual effort.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakana
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Coren
    Wasn't this posted before here like 2 years ago? Those prices would be more consistent with that timeframe at least, and apparently they're just too lazy to change them (probably nobody stupid enough to pay for that crap anyway, so they don't waste time changing).
    Yeah, when this was posted 2 years ago, the $350 price tag on Morrigan's Robe was reasonable. But now it's just way too much! You should have seen their prices on Usukane.
    I think he meant the other PLing services. >.>
    This would be the correct answer.

    Grats on being either a dumbass or an asshole though, khamsin, it was almost a funny reply.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Coren
    Quote Originally Posted by Dakana
    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Quote Originally Posted by Coren
    Wasn't this posted before here like 2 years ago? Those prices would be more consistent with that timeframe at least, and apparently they're just too lazy to change them (probably nobody stupid enough to pay for that crap anyway, so they don't waste time changing).
    Yeah, when this was posted 2 years ago, the $350 price tag on Morrigan's Robe was reasonable. But now it's just way too much! You should have seen their prices on Usukane.
    I think he meant the other PLing services. >.>
    This would be the correct answer.

    Grats on being either a dumbass or an asshole though, khamsin, it was almost a funny reply.
    Actually it was pretty funny, but I guess you can't see that because you're blinded by your own Aura of Awesomeness!

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    The Special Task Force designed for the sole purpose of curtailing RMT activity in the game my have an opinion on that "Says who" matter.

    And RMT does not make sense no matter how you look at it unless money has no value to you. Games come with rules- you can only run at a certain speed, you can only make money in certain ways, you can only claim monsters at a certain time. People don't get to break the rules because they they don't feel like obeying them. People love to use the "I don't have time to farm, I just want to play" excuse for buying gil. Exactly what makes one person's time so valuable that they can disregard the ToS? Maybe those people who don't have time to properly play the game shouldn't play it at all? I mean, someone who doesn't have the time to farm up gil to get shiny armor for their jobs that they never played on a character that they bought also doesn't have the time to bother to learn how to play those jobs.
    I agree, RMT is fundamentally wrong, and a lot of it births unskilled players. But it makes sense because there are virtually no repercussions to fear when buying gil or accounts. If a high percentage of gilbuyers were banned for it, it would make a lot less sense to risk your character doing it.

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    Re: Morrigan's Robe only $350

    Depends on your perspective. On a game like FFXI, that wasn't designed for RMT and where the ToS itself prohibits RMT, yeah, RMT is retarded. There's no valid justification for you to have RMT in that situation, especially when it's hurting the players in the game. But I think you're going too far when you say that the concept of RMT in a game doesn't make sense, at least from a game design point of view.

    There's plenty of games right now that are successful and were designed to actually use RMT as a part of the game. We don't see them a lot here because it's mostly an Asian thing (the market is completly different there, but that's a long story that has a lot to do with adapting to widespread piracy), but they do exist and they do actually work. It doesn't really work on FFXI because it was designed so there would be no place for it, but if you look at the games where there is a place for it, I think you'll find out why it does in some cases make sense

    I doubt you were thinking outside FFXI or at least regular western MMORPGs when you said that, but I'd figured I'd make the point anyway

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