Einherjar Tier 2 [Now with more bitching!]

[Waef]

It's gonna really suck losing all 9 key items when you enter Odin's chamber. If you win on your first try (which unless it's a total pushover probably won't happen) then you're good, but losing (which is what will probably happen) and having to redo the 9 previous ones will just suck ass.

[Vejitta]

Just did Helmwige's Chamber. We got overwhelmed by numbers of mobs.\

1st wave - 12 Urgath Leeches
2nd wave - 12 Hazhalm Leeches > 12 Hazhalm Bats (or w/e they are called) > Flan Mega Boss.

With 25 ppl we ran out of time at 85% of Mega Boss HP. We might have won but w/o enough erase power we fought Leeches with att down for like 80% of time.

[Gokulo]

Ahh Veji was faster than me

One thing to note:
Wiki says Mokkuralfi is a Corse. It's a Pudding actually. The yellow one.

[Rai]

Did Helmwige's Chamber with about 16 people yesterday. First batch were 12 worms, follow up were 12 slimes and corse as boss. Tiger popped and was killed.
Ironically, with ~6 more BLM (we had 5) we could have probably won it but thanks to slimes being slimes and melee sucking on them we timed out with the boss at around 80%.

The corse used pretty much all corse TP moves including single target charm (Danse Macabre) and warped Prudence-style if someone out of range pulled hate.

As for mob names, the wiki seems a bit off. Worms are named "Einherjar Eater" as noted in the wiki, our slimes were called Winebibbler (or something like that) and the corse was named differently as well (name started with an A, might have been Andhrimnir). Wish I could provide screenshots but FRAPS failed me that night and I didn't notice it till just now. I'll check if someone in my LS has some though.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Hmmm, this is...odd.

The NAs have reported:
-Winebibber: Slimes (makes sense, I guess)
-Einherjar Brei: Slimes (makes sense)
-Mokkuralfi: Flan/custard-type
-Andhrimnir (let's just guess): Corse

Those damn JPs have reported:
-Einherjar Brei: "blue ghost Bfut type" (could mean slimes or maybe they saw Corrupt or Vanquished Einherjar or something)
-Mokkuralfi: "course" (Could've meant custard or something, but the fact that they reported that it summons skeletons is very corse-like, unless they meant the skeletons just spawned)
-Andhrimnir: "Kikiln" (most definitely a bad translation of Qiqirn, especially since it runs away and uses "Kikilnmainn" (Qiqirn Mines))

Then in the .dats we have Dendainnsonne (or whatever), most definitely a wing 3 boss. It has 3 modes (much like a flan) and there in the .dats there is text where it gets angry and makes faces (like a flan). Not to mention, a custard-flan was shown along with a vampyr/hydra/cerb/khim when they announced Einherjar (based on the names Vampyr Jarl, Stoorworm, Freke, and Gorgimera, wing 3 bosses most definitely include those mob types), so it seems likely that a flan is a wing 3 boss...

I don't know, I guess I'll wait until I see NA reports conflicting with other NA reports, to see if this is a SE screw up or something lost in translation.

EDIT: Could this be related to that report of Muninn being a black crow early on in Einherjar? That might've been fixed by the wing 3 update.

Also, I had this crazy idea that could explain why one group reported getting 800 ampoules. Perhaps Heithrun rewards +50 ampoules?

[Taj]

You can't widescan in einherjar, there's no map.

[Palin@Ramuh]

I really can't believe some of the things coming out of people's mouthes here.


Aren't people stoked that there is finally something challenging in the game? After 3-4 years of camping Fafnir, doesn't the prospect of pretty much anything get you kinda pumped? Doesn't the fact that so many are failing drive you to want to complete this?

I would say yes to all those.

As for the randomness about it. Yes, it is random. You can either deal with it and keep trying to reach the unknown goal at the end, or you bitch, whine, and moan about it being too random and hard and just quit.

I don't know about you, but what motivates me to keep plugging away at Einherjar is knowing that at the end of the day, we will be one of the first people to do something that so many other weak people have quit on.

[Fou-Lu]

THIS GAMES TOO HARD
PEW PEW
IM SAD

[LD]

As for the randomness about it. Yes, it is random. You can either deal with it and keep trying to reach the unknown goal at the end, or you bitch, whine, and moan about it being too random and hard and just quit.

....You say that as if it's impossible for them to do both.

[Palin@Ramuh]

As for the randomness about it. Yes, it is random. You can either deal with it and keep trying to reach the unknown goal at the end, or you bitch, whine, and moan about it being too random and hard and just quit.

....You say that as if it's impossible for them to do both.

Because Nynja doing Einherjar 3 times clearly classifies as both. The man has obviously failed and become disenfranchised with Einherjar in general. He comes here to spout off his sour grapes.

You either deal with it and come here and post something productive to help out other people who are trying to achieve the same goal as you. OR! you come here and you complain about it being to hard trying to dissuade others from participating in something that you found too hard.

I personally think Einherjar needs a fix, but you won't find me bitching about how random and hard it is. It is what it is, and you either plug away or quit.


Now get this topic back on point about what we have seen so far.

[LD]

._.

I'm sorry, have you been to the internet before? It was created for one reason, as a means for people to vent. Be it emotional outrage, a cry for attention, or sexual frustration, that is its sole purpose, to get out all your pent up shit.

It's been about a month since Einherjar was added, even with the relatively short 3 day waiting period, doing it once a week could be considered regular attendance, I suppose. Then there are extenuating circumstances, so 3 times in 34 days doesn't sound THAT infrequent to me. The most a single character could have done it is around 11 times. Just different types I guess, you must be the type that does it twice a week, how many times have you done it?

It astounds me how people can forget that the only means of communication on the internet is to type out your thoughts, and then they somehow say 'you're talking too much' to someone. What really makes me scratch my head is how someone can simply say 'if you don't like it, then quit', as if they don't care about it or it's somehow their fault that they don't care about it. I'm not saying his bitching isn't a little annoying and/or excessive, and the fact is, he shouldn't talk about Wing 1 in the Wing 2 thread (even if the random element is technically relevant), but a complaint is simply a reaction to an undesirable fact, nothing else. When the body is hurt, a part of it feels pain. If someone didn't say something, no one would know it was broken. I don't see how he's actively dissuading others from trying, since the only people who have the numbers and ability to try are the ones who find it ridiculously unrewarding.

Hell, maybe people should just quit Einherjar in protest. The new cursed sets suck, Middle Lands abjs (especially sky's) are more reliable, and even if you miss a claim or don't get the drop, you didn't pay for anything to be there (besides an unreasonable amount of time, but that’s subjective). In my opinion, the Grin & Bear it point of view is for people who lack to will to affect change, but I'm not going to force that concept on you just to make you feel less than you are. You're welcome to suffer silently in your various exploits and I'll bitch at the top of my lungs, so someone knows that one person is unhappy. Really, that’s all you can do.



Isn’t it funny how I turn all of my posts into a philosophical debate?
And by ‘funny’, I mean ‘somewhat tiresome’.

[BRP]

THIS GAMES TOO HARD
PEW PEW
IM SAD

Only avatar I've ever adblocked on these forums ;o. Very nsfw imo.

Anyway, I rather this be an empty thread than a bitching thread... especially bitching about tier I! I've seen BG forums stoop to Allakhazam level, I'm sad. Btw, SE doesn't read this, send in suggestions and complaints via POL or their website.

[LD]

#1, you don't know and #2, that's besides the point.

"Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth."

Words, in and of themselves, have little meaning, but speaking your mind always has meaning, even if no one else listens. If someone listens to something you truly believe in, then truth can be created. This can have a positive or negative effect, but the opportunity is something valuable and should not be taken lightly.

[Sonomaa]

wtf is this derail.

[LD]

THIS IS BG!!....is what I wont say, because I know I'd be on the wrong end of that tired joke.

It's mostly spawned by people who have never been to Wing 2 (e.g. myself). Yea.....

For the record, I came in just recently. :D

[donnie]

I rather have something that i am not sure that i will win ,then something repatitave (sp?) and boring . fixing drops is something need to be done though.

aside from that , 1JP linkshell in odin beated tier 2 two times until now but nothing other then materials from what i heard .

[Palin@Ramuh]

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I'm sorry, have you been to the internet before? It was created for one reason, as a means for people to vent. Be it emotional outrage, a cry for attention, or sexual frustration, that is its sole purpose, to get out all your pent up shit.

Aww man, and here I thought the internet was created for the free exchange of ideas. And I thought this thread was for the free exchange of information concerning Tier 2 Einherjar.

I didn't know it was for you bitching about your sexual frustration. My bad dude, just keep plugging away at that battlefield and you will eventually get some pussy. I know it can be pretty random too but keep at it.

[spooky]

Just wait, first shell to kill odin will get a light crystal.

Fixed.

Sonomaa need's to whip out the ole kraken-o-banstick (Occasionally bans 2-8 times.) Go~~~

[Vejitta]

Just wait, first shell to kill odin will get a dark crystal.

Fixed.

Fixed fixed ^^

Anyway, if wing I is up to two mobs set + boss, maybe wing II is up to three mobs set + boss. I guess wing III will be up to four mobs set + boss @_@ Fucked up.

[Palin@Ramuh]

Just wait, first shell to kill odin will get a dark crystal.

Fixed.

Fixed fixed ^^

Anyway, if wing I is up to two mobs set + boss, maybe wing II is up to three mobs set + boss. I guess wing III will be up to four mobs set + boss @_@ Fucked up.

Having been in Tier II, that isn't the case. Its the same as Tier I, just different mob types and different bosses.

We failed last time cause we went in with 4 BLMs and we got jellies. When we realized we were gonna lose, we did T-ga III to see how much it would do. 4 BLM did 33% damage to all slimes. with 12 BLM, maybe a few more for safety's sake, you should be able to MB them with ease.

I really think a MB alliance would tear through this shit if someone organized it, much like Wafik's MB Dynamis shell.