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  1. #21
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    It doesnt work simply because not everyone will do it.
    You cant do a search of any camp without actually being there in TAU because the numbers can lie easily. Assault groups show up on the same area.
    people camping the crappy TAu HNM show up as being in the same zone and I'm damned sure they arent going to announce a TOD or the fact that they're fighitng it in a search comment. There are tons of ways the number of people can get artificially inflated to seem like a camp is overcrowded when noone is even at the merit camp.
    Cannon jobs ect going /anon because fucktars keep trying to invite them when they already have a party makes the amount of people lower . Basically the number of people in a zone fluctuates too easily.
    The only real way i've found is to send a scout to the camps while i'm searching for the final members or to ask people in those zones.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Shinebox
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki
    I cant exp on the weekends. How bout SE double the camp locations.
    Or decreases the amount of hit points the mobs in Uleguerand Range have.
    Increase the amount of mobs in Bibiki bay and Adjust their HP as well.

    Or just plainly give better bonuses for signet so people can go to sky, bibiki bay, hell even ro' maeve.
    God forbid you need a good party to get good exp on demons.

    I say demons being kinda tough is a good thing. All the tards and lazy dickfaces will go to ToaU areas and us people who put a ton of time and effort into our gear and skills can go to ulle and get uncontested 15-20k/hr.

  3. #23
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Honestly, I still put my camp spot in my search comment when I go out to EXP. It doesn't help one bit. I still get assfaces that come and camp on top of me and act like dicks by ruining the camp.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Palom
    Honestly, I still put my camp spot in my search comment when I go out to EXP. It doesn't help one bit. I still get assfaces that come and camp on top of me and act like dicks by ruining the camp.
    Same here.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I do this even when I'm not the PT leader. I still always notice at a PT comes by, or at least someone scouting the area.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Nice but never gonna happen!

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Reapz
    Nice but never gonna happen!
    Not with that attitude you negative Nancy!!

  8. #28
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Adding a EXP bonus to Signet would fix all camp problems, amen.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    Not with that attitude you negative Nancy!!
    You are too much of a postitive Peter!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sho
    Adding a EXP bonus to Signet would fix all camp problems, amen.
    Agreed, get rid of the current crap they added to Signet and just make it like Sanction and problem fixed.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinebox
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki
    I cant exp on the weekends. How bout SE double the camp locations.
    Or decreases the amount of hit points the mobs in Uleguerand Range have.
    Increase the amount of mobs in Bibiki bay and Adjust their HP as well.

    Or just plainly give better bonuses for signet so people can go to sky, bibiki bay, hell even ro' maeve.
    God forbid you need a good party to get good exp on demons.

    I say demons being kinda tough is a good thing. All the tards and lazy dickfaces will go to ToaU areas and us people who put a ton of time and effort into our gear and skills can go to ulle and get uncontested 15-20k/hr.
    Enjoy a 20 minute walk to camp and inferior exp with your mad turning-around skills?

  11. #31
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I'd like to see the return of camp location in seacomm. I don't think it will really stop parties from overcamping in ToAU areas, though. Exp's generally better and camps are a lot easier to get to. I think the dude talking about fiddling with an exp bonus for Signet is on to something.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I've never seen party leaders do this, and I wouldn't really expect them to, but it is irritating when it comes to solo camps for bst, blu, and I would imagine blm. Not so much the lack of a message, but people on anon. Gearing up to level bst, /seaing the area, getting to camp, only to realize some anon clowns are taking up the camp is quite frustrating.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    nothing pisses me off more than people xping while anon. if i see people getting owned while xping, i'll stop to help them out, but if they're anon i just stand there and watch them die.
    i can understand using /anon when you are xping on whm in a low level (25-50) area, like qufim or jungles, where you get random tells for a raise if you arent anon, but other than that its one of the most asinine features in the game.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I like it when you /tell PT leaders to ask them where they are camping so you won't go camp on top of them, and they are like "I'm not telling you I don't want you to come camp on top of me!".
    So you try and point out "er... you're a moron, I need to know where you are camping so I don't camp on top of you" but they'll still defy your logic and reason… ; ;

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by spooky
    I like it when you /tell PT leaders to ask them where they are camping so you won't go camp on top of them, and they are like "I'm not telling you I don't want you to come camp on top of me!".
    So you try and point out "er... you're a moron, I need to know where you are camping so I don't camp on top of you" but they'll still defy your logic and reason… ; ;

    Even better than that is when party leaders are /anon so when you search a region for level N party leaders you don't see them and assume there is room for your party.

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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    As a nice extension to this, you could also add the time you arrived at the camp or plan on ending so other people could see if there was a space opening up soon. Only problem I see with that is if your spot is going to open up soon 2 or more PTs could head there only to add to the very problem they were hoping to avoid.

  17. #37
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    search comments are very helpfull. Some people on Phoenix do it, but a vast majority do not.

    Though /tell to ask where their camps are can have merit. One time last month the leader was kind enough to say "Oh we are at middle camp of greater colibri, we are leaving in about 30 min for an event if you want the camp"

    Though often I get this situation....
    tell: "{excuse me} where is your {camp} {position}?"
    reply: "wut y"

    why else would a party leader want to know where your party is located... /sigh

    Then again I find it easy to just respond with "<pos>"

  18. #38
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I've been doing shit like this and the OP for the longest time now. So far it hasn't done me any good yet(that I know of) but I'm all for doing it. Like someone said, we can hope that eventually it'll catch on.I couldn't even count how many times i have Nyzul Isle Mamool Camp in my search comment only for parties to camp on us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayareira
    I do that generally but no one really seems to give a crap about it :/ Heck, I bet they don't even understand.

    Me >>Hello! Camp at Nyzul Isle?
    Leader>> what? lol
    Leader>>no
    *arrives nyzul isle*
    Me >> ****!
    Only difference for me is it'll go something like this:

    Me >>Hello! Is your party at nyzule or mamool?
    Leader>> what?
    Me >> I'm trying to find an open exp camp for my party
    Leader>> huh?
    Me >> I don't want to crowd up a camp
    Leader>> why?
    Leader>> when?
    Leader>> where?
    Leader>> if a frog farts does it smell nice?
    Leader>> what color is the sky?
    Leader>> do you like trees?
    Leader>> i ate a cookie today and it tasted good
    Leader>> i like cereal
    Leader>> i also like potatos
    Leader>> what do you think about tarrifs?
    Leader>> isn't today lovely
    <insert 50 more mind numbing question over the span of 5 minutes>
    My party>> this is taking too long, just pick
    Someone else>> let's just go to mamool SP, nyzul is always full
    <party warps to mamool>
    Leader>> OH! we're at mamool

    . . . morons

  19. #39
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    Quote Originally Posted by Beckwin
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleya
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinebox
    Quote Originally Posted by Tekki
    I cant exp on the weekends. How bout SE double the camp locations.
    Or decreases the amount of hit points the mobs in Uleguerand Range have.
    Increase the amount of mobs in Bibiki bay and Adjust their HP as well.

    Or just plainly give better bonuses for signet so people can go to sky, bibiki bay, hell even ro' maeve.
    God forbid you need a good party to get good exp on demons.

    I say demons being kinda tough is a good thing. All the tards and lazy dickfaces will go to ToaU areas and us people who put a ton of time and effort into our gear and skills can go to ulle and get uncontested 15-20k/hr.
    Enjoy a 20 minute walk to camp and inferior exp with your mad turning-around skills?
    I am one of those odd people who enjoys a camp that requires a little more mental commitment than just WSing at 100% TP. I am being slightly facetious, of course, as I acknowledge that EXPing is *slightly* more nuanced that just WSing every 100% TP. There are things to consider beyond just "turning around."

    20k+/hour has its own allure to pragmatists, but I'm not one of those; and most people who do not merit incessantly do not do so either because their threshold for mouth breathers within close proximity is low or they simply don't enjoy the monotony of it. With places like Uleguerand Range, the EXP is not quite as lucrative as Mamool/Colibri, but the mental engagement in itself makes it worth the hike and and EXP/hr difference for me. If you don't turn as you WS or recast :ichi, you will die. If your mages do not keep melee hasted (loldemonichowl) your EXP/hr will take a significant hit. If you do not silence Eyes and BLM demons, you will eventually have to med and slow down EXP. I guess this makes me old fashioned and this tirade closely resembles a $13/month rant, but I like seeing RDMs do something other than cure/haste/refresh.

    More often than not, if I am shrewd enough to trick LS members into EXPing at Uleguerand with me, they tend to enjoy it.

  20. #40
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    Re: Let's bring back an old trend: Camp in Search Message

    I put nyzul mamools in my comment yesterday and nobody bothered us! Probably because the people who came saw 0 mamools to kill and dropped down to colibri but still.

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