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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Avé
    What about the people who like to play PLD? Are they doomed to mediocre exp/merits (compared to this 20k/hr+) forever once they hit 75?
    While i understand where you are coming from. In practice, those 20k+ parties, the mob only stays alive for seconds, that hardly qualifies as tanking. Not to mention most dedicated people on their jobs, in this case a PLD, will surely try to get some kind of lolDDPLD setup, so he can contribute, instead of be in the sidelines so to speak.

    Also, what is this fixation with 20k/hr o.O. Sure i can understand it for people with 3 or more jobs 75 or on the way there, where you have to get a lot of merits. Most of those many jobs people, probably will also have a job that can get into "decent" 10k/hr parties.

    If you have BST, SMN as jobs only. But that kind of people should be accustomed to solo/slow xp.

    i probably should stay away from: "ZOMG I CANT GET 20k/h threads", its getting boring >.>

    Edit: boo, took much time writing

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    I didn't take offense to what was posted, I just found it... odd is all. Actually hilarious since as I said, I didn't really have any racing question period. Dunno if you were just confusing me with 1up.

    As for Zam, I'd never have stayed on when we were bought out if I wasn't assured that my job wasn't going to change and that we were still allowed to ban all gilsellers on sight. People like to blog all over the place about how we're still owned by IGE and how we have gil and gold ads everywhere but these are obviously people who don't know our staff or our site on a personal level. In the past, yes, we've had gil ads slip in. So does FFXIclopedia, I just saw some there yesterday. But this is not intentional, it is due to a limit on how many sites you can block with AdSense, which is what we *used* to use. Part of my job has always been to report gil/gold/plat ads immediately for removal and I have free reign to ban ANYone advertising RMT. We never heard from any of the people from IGE while they were still owned by Affinity and that was the way they wanted it to be. Anyway, that's in the past now, much to my relief.

    Board idiots are everywhere naturally, but I enjoy the silliness that goes on in our forums now and then. All a matter of taste I guess.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    Also, what is this fixation with 20k/hr o.O. Sure i can understand it for people with 3 or more jobs 75 or on the way there, where you have to get a lot of merits. Most of those many jobs people, probably will also have a job that can get into "decent" 10k/hr parties.
    I have 4 jobs (on two characters) on which I need merits. I am down with whatever gets me to my goals faster, 20k XP/hour is the new hotness for merit party pacing, so that is the minimum that I like to shoot for. (25k XP/hour is really hot though, need more of that action.)

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    Agreed, for people like you, its completely understandable the 20k thing, it just seems to me that most people wants 20k/hr regardless of them having 1 or 2 jobs only (Sure, in Soviet Vanadiel, everyone should be able to get 20k in a DRKx3, BST, SMN party but thats a whole different issue and this is not soviet vanadiel).

    It just seems people wants to see the merits roll, without having fun. Whoever is meriting without having fun, should stop playing . or go raise a chocobo

    On the other hand, i can get xp no problem in LS parties (omg as WHM and getting 10k+ O.o), i was just sayin' :D

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    Agreed, for people like you, its completely understandable the 20k thing, it just seems to me that most people wants 20k/hr regardless of them having 1 or 2 jobs only (Sure, in Soviet Vanadiel, everyone should be able to get 20k in a DRKx3, BST, SMN party but thats a whole different issue and this is not soviet vanadiel).

    It just seems people wants to see the merits roll, without having fun. Whoever is meriting without having fun, should stop playing . or go raise a chocobo

    On the other hand, i can get xp no problem in LS parties (omg as WHM and getting 10k+ O.o), i was just sayin' :D
    Why does a person's number of jobs leveled alter the value of their time? I have one job, but that doesn't mean my time is worth less than Septimus' (not picking on you, just using as an example). If I have the option to pt for 10k/hr or 20k/hr, should I pick the 10k/hr pt because I only have one job leveled, and therefore mysteriously don't need to maximize my time investment? Time is incredibly finite, and you can't blame anyone for wanting to get the most out of the time they have.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    90% of people who bitch why their job can't get 20k/hour doesn't have the gear/merit/competence to get 20k/hour even if their job was one of the higher end merit jobs.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    its not so much based on your time being less than someone else. Its more focused on the business model of FFXI. With 1 or 2 jobs, how many merits do you need to be capped? Once you are capped on said job merits. what is left for you?

    If you are coming from the angle where said person has very limited play time, the chances of said person also doing a lot of endgame stuff (and using his/her job to full potential) are somewhat low.

    Lets say that person with very low play time gets invited on BST to a 30k/h static-pt and caps his merits in a week. but he cant make it to his HNMLS events, and can only attend Dynamis. what is left for him? farm and buy all AH-able possible gear? quit?.

    The way SE handles everything in this game is based on how much time you spend in-game (despide the fact the fee is the same if you play or not). You cant expect if to be different just for exping.

    I know my arguments has a lot of openings, i just dont like wall of texts.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Viq
    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    Agreed, for people like you, its completely understandable the 20k thing, it just seems to me that most people wants 20k/hr regardless of them having 1 or 2 jobs only (Sure, in Soviet Vanadiel, everyone should be able to get 20k in a DRKx3, BST, SMN party but thats a whole different issue and this is not soviet vanadiel).

    It just seems people wants to see the merits roll, without having fun. Whoever is meriting without having fun, should stop playing . or go raise a chocobo

    On the other hand, i can get xp no problem in LS parties (omg as WHM and getting 10k+ O.o), i was just sayin' :D
    Why does a person's number of jobs leveled alter the value of their time? I have one job, but that doesn't mean my time is worth less than Septimus' (not picking on you, just using as an example). If I have the option to pt for 10k/hr or 20k/hr, should I pick the 10k/hr pt because I only have one job leveled, and therefore mysteriously don't need to maximize my time investment? Time is incredibly finite, and you can't blame anyone for wanting to get the most out of the time they have.
    Well, people with only 1 or 2 jobs don't generally have the luxury of being able to be whatever job fits best into a merit PT (e.g. switch to RDM or WAR or BRD depending on what you're missing). And those people with 1 or 2 jobs tend to have jobs not compatible with meritting. So, for them to expect 20k/hour is a bit much. 3k/hour is more their pace.

    But also, from a time-value point of view, the more time you put into something, the more that time is worth. That's why a naked character with 18 75s will sell for more than a naked character with 1 75. Therefore, a person with 18 75s time is worth more than a person with 1 75.

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    I would just like to say as a physics geek, all this talk about the value of time irritates the hell out of me, that is all.

    Edited, just for the hell of it.

    You cannot run out of time any more than you can run out of Up or Left.

    You can only run out of life.

    /absurdpoint

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    I know my arguments has a lot of openings, i just dont like wall of texts.
    I think to argue "whats left for them" is irrelevant. No matter what you cap out... theres always something left for you to do. And if it takes someone a week to cap merits for their job (ive done it) what difference does it make next to someone who capped theirs in a month instead?? A year? ppl enjoy different things, ppl enjoy moving at different paces, if it takes someone a month to reach 1-75 vs someone who spent a full year to reach 75, who time is more valuable and whos time valid? To say ppl dont deserve to have max merits when they want JUST to drag out a tedious process, JUST for fear they may or may not have much to do after is moot imo. A time sink is a time sink. But to wonder whats left for them, is up to each individual, and not for anyone else tow worry about.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by FinalJustice
    To say ppl dont deserve to have max merits when they want JUST to drag out a tedious process, JUST for fear they may or may not have much to do after is moot imo. A time sink is a time sink. But to wonder whats left for them, is up to each individual, and not for anyone else tow worry about.
    As i said, people is more concerned about numbers and not in actually having fun. Im wondering in the sense of building a point. i dont give a shit about people (especially when they dont want to have fun playing a game)

    Quote Originally Posted by Khamsin
    Well, people with only 1 or 2 jobs don't generally have the luxury of being able to be whatever job fits best into a merit PT (e.g. switch to RDM or WAR or BRD depending on what you're missing). And those people with 1 or 2 jobs tend to have jobs not compatible with meritting. So, for them to expect 20k/hour is a bit much. 3k/hour is more their pace.
    This is what i was trying to say.


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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Interesting interview.

    I kinda don't want SE to give away the secret to beating AV. He's a interesting puzzle. Minute we run out of mobs that we don't know how to kill, the game is gonna get really boring.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Venture
    Interesting interview.

    I kinda don't want SE to give away the secret to beating AV. He's a interesting puzzle. Minute we run out of mobs that we don't know how to kill, the game is gonna get really boring.
    Or, AV can be beaten and SE can released new mobs to defeat. Why should the player base have to lul over the same HNM for years?

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venture
    Interesting interview.

    I kinda don't want SE to give away the secret to beating AV. He's a interesting puzzle. Minute we run out of mobs that we don't know how to kill, the game is gonna get really boring.
    Or, AV can be beaten and SE can released new mobs to defeat. Why should the player base have to lul over the same HNM for years?
    Even deepthroat revealed his true identity after people stopped caring.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Venture
    Interesting interview.

    I kinda don't want SE to give away the secret to beating AV. He's a interesting puzzle. Minute we run out of mobs that we don't know how to kill, the game is gonna get really boring.
    Yes I love how the whole end-game community puts a huge amount of effort into solving this puzzle these days. Oh wait...
    There's nothing "interesting" or puzzling about it, it's broken and stupid to the point where no one cares anymore. And no one is going to start caring or attempt it again without some real concrete info; which is only going to come from SE.
    Remember parade gorget? (Ok slightly different but...) That was in the game for ages, and people thought it was "interesting" and fun to try and work out the recipe, they tried a billion things, nothing worked, and in the end SE had to just tell us -- it will the same with AV.

    Instead of just handing us information on a plate, I’d like them to add a series of quests where you could collect information on strategies, they could be a little cryptic to make it a bit more fun. That would be more of an interesting puzzle, trying to work out the clues given in the quest, than just being flat out told it in an interview.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    They can even Japan it up and put the answer in a fucking haiku if theyd like.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan
    What cracks me up is how many people change their tone of Alla just because Pikko came here and stood up for her site.
    It's more that Pikko (as far as I know) isn't the "stereotypical" "Zammite," and this all started with someone mocking Pikko's interview, without any good reason to. Think of it like a reverse "hating a nation's leader(s) but not all of its citzens."
    Isn't that like USA with our leader? or USA with cuba, cause we sure don't stop them from coming into our country.

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Intense
    They can even Japan it up and put the answer in a fucking haiku if theyd like.
    Justice weapons, wut
    And bring your little torques too
    No Mars Ring for you


    The Parade Gorget mystery was pretty good, for all the testing and theorizing that went on around it. Tons of people around the Food erase NPC, trading Ginger Cookies to try and hit a magic number that would give up a Goblin Drink. Wasn't for that, I don't think we'd know you could actually get a title from it. Albeit rarely.

    Participated in a few Movalopalos raids with the intent of trying to break the Moblin stranglehold, so as to get access to the Mov. Water NPC again for further testing. Used to carry around a Goblin Cup from following Goblin Diggers around on a Chocobo, trying to see if I could sell it to someone under the guise of "it's for Goblin Drink". Never worked, but Goblin Drink spawned a lot of lulz, and death. Fished up Elshimo Newts while going for Frogs, and didn't even guess that...

    It was much more fun as a mystery, because eighteen people didn't die instantly while trying to pop Goblin Wolfman. Well...except the Newton Movaloplos mega-trains...

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    AV = this years goblin drink mystery at fanfest ;x

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    Re: Allakhazam gets an interview with SE

    Quote Originally Posted by Lordender
    AV = this years goblin drink mystery at fanfest ;x
    lolwut?

    AV can't be more than one update younger than Goblin Drink.

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