Target commands

[Xrave]

I know of <stnpc> and <stpc> to toggle through all NPC and PC targets, however I can't remember for the life of me the command to toggle through just party or alliance members (no, not the F-key buttons).

Do these exist or am I remembering something different.

[Taj]

You're thinking of <stthisshouldreallybeinthegamewhathtefuckweretheyt hinking>. I can see why you didn't remember it, it's pretty long.

[Zosi]

Personally, I have T and G rebound so they move target up and down on the on-screen alliance list. It's not quite what you're asking for, but it's the best I've found. This only works for compact keyboard users.

To do that, go into Config -> Misc 2 -> Key Assignment / Movement. Assign Menu/Target Cursor Up to T, and Menu/Target Cursor Down to G.

I've never played on a PS2 or Xbox, but I'm told that one of the dpads has up and down bound like that.

Edited after trying with full keyboard layout and finding it doesn't work at all.

[fantasticdan]

On Xbox/PS2 you can hit up/down on the dpad to scroll through party/alliance members in the order that they appear on the right of your screen, but it's bugged. Normally you will skip over players that are out of range, however sometimes a player out of range on your party list can act like a wall for no apparent reason, it will select them like they are in range, than your target will disappear entirely, forcing you to start again from yourself, however usually the player that your target fucked up on, will continue to fuck up until they come back into range.

[Xrave]

Personally, I have T and G rebound so they move target up and down on the on-screen alliance list. It's not quite what you're asking for, but it's the best I've found. This only works for compact keyboard users.

To do that, go into Config -> Misc 2 -> Key Assignment / Movement. Assign Menu/Target Cursor Up to T, and Menu/Target Cursor Down to G.

I've never played on a PS2 or Xbox, but I'm told that one of the dpads has up and down bound like that.

Edited after trying with full keyboard layout and finding it doesn't work at all.

Yea, I played around with this for a while and couldn't get it to work on a full keybaord. Anyone know some type of work-around for this?

[Roronoya]

Is A11-16 for the first party alliance, A21-26 for second party alliance what the OP was originally thinking of? The info was recently shared with me about targetting people in the alliance, so I hope it was what you're looking for. A11 being first person in the first ally pt. A23 being the 3 person in the second ally pt, etc.

[Zosi]

If I'm reading correctly, what he's looking for is a way to use a command like <sta>, which would work like <st>, but with the potential targets limited to alliance members in a similar way as <stnpc> limits potential targets to NPCs.

[Xrave]

Yea, I want to be able to scroll the party/alliance list of members, not have to manually target each one with names or <a1x>, etc.

Just hit a general macro that brings up a targeter, then toggle. I know Xbox can do it, I'm trying to figure out a way on the PC without using <stpc> then using the tab key since that will toggle people who aren't in party/alliance.

[spooky]

Is A11-16 for the first party alliance, A21-26 for second party alliance what the OP was originally thinking of? The info was recently shared with me about targetting people in the alliance, so I hope it was what you're looking for. A11 being first person in the first ally pt. A23 being the 3 person in the second ally pt, etc.

Interesting, I didn't know that. You might be able to do some sneakyness with windower macros so that you could go up and down through all the people in the list. Have a search on the Windower forum or make a post over there and someone with more knowlage of their macros might be able to help you out. Alternativly you might be able to write or request a plugin yourself.

[socoxak]

Is A11-16 for the first party alliance, A21-26 for second party alliance what the OP was originally thinking of? The info was recently shared with me about targetting people in the alliance, so I hope it was what you're looking for. A11 being first person in the first ally pt. A23 being the 3 person in the second ally pt, etc.

Interesting, I didn't know that. You might be able to do some sneakyness with windower macros so that you could go up and down through all the people in the list. Have a search on the Windower forum or make a post over there and someone with more knowlage of their macros might be able to help you out. Alternativly you might be able to write or request a plugin yourself.

Here is what I use to target alliance members, sadly it doesn't work while in the <st> mode tho

ctrl f1-f6 target top pt, and alt f1-f6 second pt... add this to init.txt in the scripts folder:

## ******************************************************* 
## ** Alliance Targeting keys
## ******************************************************* 

bind ^f1 input /ta <a10>
bind ^f2 input /ta <a11>
bind ^f3 input /ta <a12>
bind ^f4 input /ta <a13>
bind ^f5 input /ta <a14>
bind ^f6 input /ta <a15>
bind !f1 input /ta <a20>
bind !f2 input /ta <a21>
bind !f3 input /ta <a22>
bind !f4 input /ta <a23>
bind !f5 input /ta <a24>
bind !f6 input /ta <a25>

[jerkbox]

Personally, I have T and G rebound so they move target up and down on the on-screen alliance list. It's not quite what you're asking for, but it's the best I've found. This only works for compact keyboard users.

To do that, go into Config -> Misc 2 -> Key Assignment / Movement. Assign Menu/Target Cursor Up to T, and Menu/Target Cursor Down to G.

I've never played on a PS2 or Xbox, but I'm told that one of the dpads has up and down bound like that.

Edited after trying with full keyboard layout and finding it doesn't work at all.

omfg i love you. i've been trying to figure out how to do this...

this will help so much with cure tanking D:

[Apelila]

## ******************************************************* 
## ** Alliance Targeting keys
## ******************************************************* 

bind ^f1 input /ta <a10>
bind ^f2 input /ta <a11>
bind ^f3 input /ta <a12>
bind ^f4 input /ta <a13>
bind ^f5 input /ta <a14>
bind ^f6 input /ta <a15>
bind !f1 input /ta <a20>
bind !f2 input /ta <a21>
bind !f3 input /ta <a22>
bind !f4 input /ta <a23>
bind !f5 input /ta <a24>
bind !f6 input /ta <a25>

Holy balls. Thank you for that.

[Vigilia]

Yea, I want to be able to scroll the party/alliance list of members, not have to manually target each one with names or <a1x>, etc.

Just hit a general macro that brings up a targeter, then toggle. I know Xbox can do it, I'm trying to figure out a way on the PC without using <stpc> then using the tab key since that will toggle people who aren't in party/alliance.

Get one of those USB converters and plug your Xbox/PS2 controller into your PC. You can play with keyboard and controller alongside each other, just pick the one that's more comfortable for what you are doing- I use both and swap all the time depending which is handier. For curing in an alliance the pad wins by a longshot (especially at events like Dynamis, could just be my mediocre PC but the pad doesn't lag half as much as the keyboard).

[Xrave]

Was pointed out by a friend how to do target scrolling on a PC (was pretty obvious but never tried it).

In Config > Misc 2 options, set keyboard type to compact even though using a normal keyboard. After that go into Config > Misc 2 > Movement and set Menu/Target Cursor Up and Menu/Target Cursor Down to T and G respecitvely as suggested earlier in the thread (or any buttons that aren't previously bound ont he compact keyboard layout).

T and G works since you can no longer type straight to a default chat (/say, /linkshell. /shout, /tell).

Very helpful for targetting alliance members using <stpc> without tabbing through all non-npc targets.

[Septimus]

Was pointed out by a friend how to do target scrolling on a PC (was pretty obvious but never tried it).

In Config > Misc 2 options, set keyboard type to compact even though using a normal keyboard. After that go into Config > Misc 2 > Movement and set Menu/Target Cursor Up and Menu/Target Cursor Down to T and G respecitvely as suggested earlier in the thread (or any buttons that aren't previously bound ont he compact keyboard layout).

T and G works since you can no longer type straight to a default chat (/say, /linkshell. /shout, /tell).

Very helpful for targetting alliance members using <stpc> without tabbing through all non-npc targets.

I tried that in Ein on Tuesday, man it is awesome. Makes second-character healing much easier.

[Atlasion]

Was pointed out by a friend how to do target scrolling on a PC (was pretty obvious but never tried it).

In Config > Misc 2 options, set keyboard type to compact even though using a normal keyboard. After that go into Config > Misc 2 > Movement and set Menu/Target Cursor Up and Menu/Target Cursor Down to T and G respecitvely as suggested earlier in the thread (or any buttons that aren't previously bound ont he compact keyboard layout).

T and G works since you can no longer type straight to a default chat (/say, /linkshell. /shout, /tell).

Very helpful for targetting alliance members using <stpc> without tabbing through all non-npc targets.

I tried that in Ein on Tuesday, man it is awesome. Makes second-character healing much easier.

So will hitting T continue to scroll up through other parties in alliance?

[Carnusty]

So will hitting T continue to scroll up through other parties in alliance?

Yeah, it does I just switched it myself, it's soooo awesome in Dynamis <_<

[Zosi]

Was pointed out by a friend how to do target scrolling on a PC (was pretty obvious but never tried it).

In Config > Misc 2 options, set keyboard type to compact even though using a normal keyboard. After that go into Config > Misc 2 > Movement and set Menu/Target Cursor Up and Menu/Target Cursor Down to T and G respecitvely as suggested earlier in the thread (or any buttons that aren't previously bound ont he compact keyboard layout).

T and G works since you can no longer type straight to a default chat (/say, /linkshell. /shout, /tell).

Very helpful for targetting alliance members using <stpc> without tabbing through all non-npc targets.

Being a touch-typist myself, I can't imagine why anyone uses the full keyboard layout. You have to move your hands entirely to type (unless you hunt-and-peck with one hand) or to hit macros on both sides of the bar. I much prefer keeping my hands safely on the home row for 90% of the time.

[Xrave]

Yea not only does it scroll through your alliance, but it scrolls through them in order so you don't have to go slow...can just mash the shit out of the up/down option since you know exactly how many button pushes to get to the next person (unless someone isn't in range, then it skips over the person that's next in the order).

[Amele]

Was pointed out by a friend how to do target scrolling on a PC (was pretty obvious but never tried it).

In Config > Misc 2 options, set keyboard type to compact even though using a normal keyboard. After that go into Config > Misc 2 > Movement and set Menu/Target Cursor Up and Menu/Target Cursor Down to T and G respecitvely as suggested earlier in the thread (or any buttons that aren't previously bound ont he compact keyboard layout).

T and G works since you can no longer type straight to a default chat (/say, /linkshell. /shout, /tell).

Very helpful for targetting alliance members using <stpc> without tabbing through all non-npc targets.

Being a touch-typist myself, I can't imagine why anyone uses the full keyboard layout. You have to move your hands entirely to type (unless you hunt-and-peck with one hand) or to hit macros on both sides of the bar. I much prefer keeping my hands safely on the home row for 90% of the time.

I'm a touch typist and I can't imagine people using compact layout at all. although, I admit, that my hand span is huge (I can hit both shift keys at the same time with one hand - not that that's ever necessary) I can also reach the right control key from the numeric keypad, which is my primary way of running macros when I have to kite something. (that and I can't be arsed to hit space every time I want to type *anything* since I issue alot of commands via the chat interface rather than the macro interface)

anyway - you can use letter binds on a full keyboard: you just have to press ctrl or alt and the letter. (default magic menu bind on full keyboard: Ctrl+M, etc.)