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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Ideally, good players will still kick ass, you'll just have to switch out some haste gear for accuracy or attack. Or maybe they making them fight back more against a bunch of /NIN. Who knows...

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    -Possible "nerf" of TP burns... and by that I mean "buffing" exp monsters.
    Just what this game needs, merits to be slower and more tedious. Why? Because blms miss MBing?
    Because nobody BUT the few 'optimal jobs' get to merit. Hell, look at the thread where people talk about subpar merit parties wasting mobs. Like it or not, it's a real problem.
    I get it, but instead of making meriting suck for everyone, why not ask for buffs to the "less appealing" merit jobs?

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    It occurs to me I've never plainly asked this before, but what's wrong with 2H-weapons, exactly? How can I have roughly the same att as a SAM or something and do as much as or more than him in a single punch, despite my weapon damage being ~30 points less?

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    -Possible "nerf" of TP burns... and by that I mean "buffing" exp monsters.
    Just what this game needs, merits to be slower and more tedious. Why? Because blms miss MBing?
    Because nobody BUT the few 'optimal jobs' get to merit. Hell, look at the thread where people talk about subpar merit parties wasting mobs. Like it or not, it's a real problem.
    I get it, but instead of making meriting suck for everyone, why not ask for buffs to the "less appealing" merit jobs?
    It doesn't really sound like a nerf really to me. I'm really not sure what it is but it sounds like harder mobs and a large buff for skillchains.

    It occurs to me I've never plainly asked this before, but what's wrong with 2H-weapons, exactly? How can I have roughly the same att as a SAM or something and do as much as or more than him in a single punch, despite my weapon damage being ~30 points less?
    Because its not the same att value OR your h2h DMG is higher than you think. Or you're comparing hits next to each other in the chatlog instead of average hits.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    -Possible "nerf" of TP burns... and by that I mean "buffing" exp monsters.
    Just what this game needs, merits to be slower and more tedious. Why? Because blms miss MBing?
    Because there are other jobs in the game besides: NIN RDM BRD WAR COR...

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    -Possible "nerf" of TP burns... and by that I mean "buffing" exp monsters.
    Just what this game needs, merits to be slower and more tedious. Why? Because blms miss MBing?
    I agree with this. I think they just need to add camps that you can USE BLMs in and still gain at least remotely near the amount you can in a TP burn... through SCing and bursting sure. I'm sure they could figure out a way to do this (like... making tougher mobs give LOTS of exp!!! whoopity doopity).

    I don't see why they'd wanna make it so parties NEED a BLM to get good exp, that's not balancing shit at all...

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    They seemed to be saying that they'll make some mobs harder, but they'd also be adjusting the current jobs. I doubt they'd just kill melee burns though; if they didn't completely kill manaburn, they wont kill this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jooeetheplatypus
    It occurs to me I've never plainly asked this before, but what's wrong with 2H-weapons, exactly? How can I have roughly the same att as a SAM or something and do as much as or more than him in a single punch, despite my weapon damage being ~30 points less?
    Because its not the same att value OR your h2h DMG is higher than you think. Or you're comparing hits next to each other in the chatlog instead of average hits.
    hmm...maybe (that WAS a while ago), but forget my experiences, what's wrong with it on the whole? Is it just because it's faster? Is it some sort of hiccup in the damage formula? I haven't PT'd with a 2H job as MNK in at least a year, so it's difficult for me to compare myself to even the worst one out there.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by spooky
    Quote Originally Posted by Volken
    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    -Possible "nerf" of TP burns... and by that I mean "buffing" exp monsters.
    Just what this game needs, merits to be slower and more tedious. Why? Because blms miss MBing?
    Because there are other jobs in the game besides: NIN RDM BRD WAR COR...
    Buffing merit mobs would just be devolving, and to be honest, SE could care less that only a few jobs are top tier in merit parties. If I'm gonna pretend in this thread that they do care about the other jobs getting slower exp, the right thing to do is to get SE to put the other jobs on the same level as ridill wars, and give more camps with flannish mobs for blms to merit on. Skillchains have lost their place in meriting, and no matter how nostalgic you are for it, it's never going to make a come back. Stop trying to bring the "best" way to do something down, and ask SE for more buffs.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    fStr favors lower delay over anything else, last I checked.

    Applying your fStr bonus more often, with decent damage, far outweighs more damage but less chances to work the math.

    Thus: Nin, Mnk, War, are all winnars, great damage weapons, stupid swing speeds, great gear options, nice JT's/JA's. For other jobs to keep up takes relics, top tier gears, or insanity like Sam/Rng spam.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    fStr favors lower delay over anything else, last I checked.

    Applying your fStr bonus more often, with decent damage, far outweighs more damage but less chances to work the math.
    Yeah, if fSTR didn't only add like 3-4 DMG rating...

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Said last I checked, but I seem to recall it doing a bit more than just 3-4 dmg rating in the actual damage done to the mob, but without getting into the full math, I know the way the game calculates damage doesn't favor weapon damage too kindly.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    How many times do I have to post this before people remember it :/

    http://killingifrit.com/page.php?al=dcalc

    Just play with the numbers to get a feel of how each piece of the equation fits into final results.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Yea, but that suggests there is NO problem with 2H weapons, when there has to be for 1H to be so favored.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    The problem with 2h weapons is circumstantial, not an inherent real problem with the handedness.
    There aren't GAxes that can even come close to a combo of Maneater+Jugg or Maneater+Ridill as far as stat bonuses. There is no Gaxe WS nearly as good for spamming as rampage.
    DRK, DRG, SAM (ot MNK for that matter) cannot get the survivability of /NIN and get Zerk+Double Attack at the same time. Their weapon choices also are pitiful by comparison to WAR and MNK. See if you can get a WAR or MNK to use a weapon whose damage/delay is good and the stat bonuses are str+2 vit+2 add effect: impairs evasion, they would laugh. DRG and SAM's spammable WSes aren't as good either (guillo is great though.)
    THF was underpowered until DMG got upped (among other buffs.)
    DRK, DRG, THF can't use haidate. MNK gets Black Belt.

    etc etc etc

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    The fact that DRG has no good spammable WS (Penta is OK but really needs /WAR to be effective) and no big spike WS for endgame is why it's considered lolDRG really.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    I think SE's going to overhaul the entire battle system by the time wings is ready, it just seems like they have to in order to make these new jobs work from whats being said in these interviews with development team.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Have you thought about implementing a runic portal multi-pass?

    The reason we will not do this, is because when the Astral Candescence is taken by the beastmen you cannot get a pass to use the runic portal. And so if you get 5 of them, and then the Astral Candescence is taken, you would still be able to use them which is something you are not supposed to be able to do. We don't want people hoarding these passes.

    Oh this is such BS. if they really dont want us using runic portals when the AC is missing then all they need to do is add this message...

    "A mysterious force has disabled the portal"

    boom, problem sovled. you can still have a crap load of passes but they just cant be used at that time.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaslo
    The fact that DRG has no good spammable WS (Penta is OK but really needs /WAR to be effective) and no big spike WS for endgame is why it's considered lolDRG really.
    The same thing can be said for PUP actually. They have almost no spike-damage potential.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    if penta is OK why is it inferior to raging fists for a long time? a weaponskill that comes 10 levels earlier. i have nothing against drg mine is 54 even and i enjoy playing it when i can actually get an invite but i think the game is long overdue for new weapon skills. ive never personally seen a drg break 1k on something that wasnt weak to piercing or below even match without SA'ing wheeling or spirit surge + jumps. not saying its not possible ive just never seen it. then again the 2 jobs i most often see break 1k with multihit weaponskills both have accuracy boosting ja's. >_>

    pup has dragonkick but howling fist probally pumps out more consistant dmg when statistically speaking it shouldnt.

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    Re: FFXIclopedia interview with Development Team at E3

    Penta Thrust has like...the shittiest TP mod ever...

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Penta_Thrust

    at 100% TP it's a 0.75 multiplier...only at 200% does it get 1.0 o___O

    Also the modifiers are rather low, which really is just like :\

    Not to mention how shitty polearm melee damage is in the first place <_<

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