Absolute Virtue Theory

[Cephius]

Hmmm.

Maybe when they say "stopping it's regen" they mean "killing Bene"?

Maybe, I think that's something that would get lost in the translation though. Maybe someone who knows some Japanese can elaborate whether the Japanese words for Regen and Benediction (or some other word for restoring HP) could get confused or mixed up when translated to English?

[Hapernack]

So far I have yet to find someone with a link to the original japanese script of that interview. Just the crappy translated one for the NA.

[Deelo]

This was brought up on Allakhazam in the Absolute Virtue Theory thread.

This is where I stopped reading.

[Kaslo]

Hmmm do the 3 Aern spawns at JoL Spawn cycle through the 15 Jobs? If so maybe you have to kill them, with the alliance that had claim on AV, for each job's 2hr to lockdown. Of course if this has been tried and didn't work, please disregard >.>;

[superfob]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

[Cephius]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

Dread Spikes doesn't stop you from getting wtfraped by Aeroga4, so no

[superfob]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

Dread Spikes doesn't stop you from getting wtfraped by Aeroga4, so no

Assuming it does Aeroga 4 within the first 30 secs of popping.

[ninjafox]

There's 15 yovra?!! I thought there were only 4 >.>

[Cephius]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

Dread Spikes doesn't stop you from getting wtfraped by Aeroga4, so no

Assuming it does Aeroga 4 within the first 30 secs of popping.

I've "fought" AV about 4-5 times now and seeing Aeroga that early isnt uncommon in my expierence.

[Korietsu]

Everybody's looking into this way too much. All the most powerful weapons and spells cannot defeat him... The solution is far more simple.

While fighting AV, use the "Pray" command, and that will summon the thoughts & prayers of the players all throughout Vana'diel. With all the collective power of the world's prayers, AV's health will periodically diminish until he is defeated... or at such low hp that you can finish him off with one bottle rocket.

Cue tin cans with the one in the front with a red hat. And not to forget that awesome Mr. Saturn text. Those were the days.

Shame we cant take AV down like Gyigas. Ness uses PSI Rockin Omega! AV takes omfgwtfpwned damage.

On a related note, really, I don't think AV has any complicated solution to it. It just need to be dealt with sorta like how kirin was dealt with, back when he was "Undefeatable".

[Epyslon]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

Dread Spikes doesn't stop you from getting wtfraped by Aeroga4, so no

Assuming it does Aeroga 4 within the first 30 secs of popping.

I've "fought" AV about 4-5 times now and seeing Aeroga that early isnt uncommon in my expierence.

Then Lagdu wtf owns you cus GMS are gay.

[MisterBob]

Last time I popped AV, he opened with Aeroga IV.

It doesn't matter though, as soon as he hits 79% he's going to Meteor your stupid Kraken DRKs anyways.

[ringthree]

The fact that AV used to "break" and stop casting spell/2h make me think there is something coded in its script that might force it to stop casting spells and uses abilities..we were just not activating that part correctly. Could have been real bugs, but I find strange AV would be the only one to glitch like this if it was using a more conventional battle script.

I am pretty sure this is 100% correct. Everyone knows AV is impossible to kill with 2hours. Even SE does know that (bash them as much as you want, they made this game so you can be sure they know the basics.....). the locking is needed to win this fight. It was just triggered the way it wasn't intended to be.

2 HNM LS on Odin are going to a new theory, depending on whoever pops AV first. Maybe the hint of killing Aerns around AV wasn't that bad at all, but I'm sure there has to be more behind it to lock AV's other abilities as well, since they only mention Regen. We are going to try some other ideas.

(Oh and it's gonna be something that can be done with 18 people btw...)

Have you checked the jobs of the Aerns around AV's spawn? Are they constant jobs, or do they cycle? For that matter, are any of the jobs for the Aerns constant or do they all rotate?

[Sho]

On a related note, really, I don't think AV has any complicated solution to it. It just need to be dealt with sorta like how kirin was dealt with, back when he was "Undefeatable".

I disagree. Killing Kirin when he was "undefeatable" meant kiting for 6-8 hrs while making him run out of MP. I don't think anyone can outlast someone that throws massive tornados and flinging meteors around for even half that time.

[Julian]

Hmmm do the 3 Aern spawns at JoL Spawn cycle through the 15 Jobs? If so maybe you have to kill them, with the alliance that had claim on AV, for each job's 2hr to lockdown. Of course if this has been tried and didn't work, please disregard >.>;

No

They're static

[spooky]

Would 18 KC drks w/ dread spikes be fast enough to kill it before it spams 2hrs? I dunno.

Rune Chopper > Kraken :O Oh the drama.

[Tonko]

Banished.

[jaryk]

1.Cut a hole in the box
2.Put your junk in that box
3.Have AV open the box
And that's the way you do it!

[Tajin]

Awww Tonko, put it in the spam section, please

[spooky]

Banished.

lmfao, /cheer Tonko.