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    Re: JP PT Only

    Personally, it sucks a bit when I try to form a merit party later at night (I live in alaska so JP primetime starts ALOT earlier in my day <_<), and so many people have JP ONLY...but it's not the worst really..

    The most annoyance I have with some JP people is that sometimes when I send them a tell inviting them to a party...they don't even bother responding ._. Numerous people I'd send invites to wouldn't say a word in response...at least if I got a tell back saying "FUCK NA NO" I'd be a little less disturbed...well in one way <_<

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    I've never had a communication issue with a mixed language party.

    sure, you'll have a hard time asking them about what the weather is like in japan today or whether they had a good time last weekend with their SO. but the auto-trans works well enough for exp purposes with a little creativity and usually there's someone in the six of you who is at least passable at both languages (unless you had like, 5 NA players who're all still in High school's that only offer French and Spanish and picked up one random JP who never learned any english) to cover the gaps.

    lately though, I find myself preferring english language meripo since its nice to be able to jabber a bit to deal with the boredom of casting haste #394 and regen #254 on hour three of the party.

    if I'm looking for exp though, I take the split language party every time, if only because people seem to care more (maybe it's the 'the other guys are watching' subconscious trigger or something). I don't go out of my way to invite japanese though, unless their seacom or familiarity gives me reassurance that they're probably competent.
    German or Spanish from my Highschool. I took German and have had a few situations where a JP has known German better then english. Was a rather funny situation cause I had not used it in several years, but communication was possible.

    I dont get the whole JP only thing though. At later levels you dont really need to communicate with people during exp. Unless you have to explain the specifics of a tactic to someone that does not know. Like hate management, SATA, using sneak/invisible to get to the camp location...

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Wait, people are convinced that JPs are better than NAs? I guess I set my DeLorean to 2004 this morning...
    But Septimus... RDM/NIN RDM/NIN.... who needs plds.
    But back here in 2004 we all know that NIN isn't a good sub job since you will won't be able to land your best spells due to your low Ninjitsu skill and won't benefit much from the gain in AGI. The Bradey Guide said so.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Wait, people are convinced that JPs are better than NAs? I guess I set my DeLorean to 2004 this morning...
    But Septimus... RDM/NIN RDM/NIN.... who needs plds.
    But back here in 2004 we all know that NIN isn't a good sub job since you will won't be able to land your best spells due to your low Ninjitsu skill and won't benefit much from the gain in AGI. The Bradey Guide said so.
    And while we're at it, don't waste your time leveling meat and potato jobs like Warrior, they're best used as a sub job only.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Quote Originally Posted by kazen
    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Wait, people are convinced that JPs are better than NAs? I guess I set my DeLorean to 2004 this morning...
    But Septimus... RDM/NIN RDM/NIN.... who needs plds.
    But back here in 2004 we all know that NIN isn't a good sub job since you will won't be able to land your best spells due to your low Ninjitsu skill and won't benefit much from the gain in AGI. The Bradley Guide said so.
    fixed for kazen

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    Re: JP PT Only

    The thing I like about JP parties is that they're more willing to go to alternative camps. Every time I try to take a NA party to Mamook or trolls, the bitching never stops, wah wah wah I'd rather be competing for pulls at colibri. Then I end up faking a D/C because nobody will voke and the RDM or WHM is afk watching TV

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    Re: JP PT Only

    JPs are also worse for overcrowding camps. I ended up exping earlier on RDM so I could fit in about an hour or two of good exp before camp invasion starts. Several times ended up going to Bibliki Bay..

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Lv. 8 Besieged.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    In my experience with JP parties, its usually the language barrier problem you're dealing with. English is a required course in most japanese highschools, but its like spanish being a highschool language requirement here. How much spanish do we actually retain after we're done in highschool with it? They can speak it, but really don't want to because of difficulty or embarrassment over saying the wrong thing depending on how good/bad thier english is.


    I will say one thing about JP parties, they tend to be much more hassle free than NA parties for sure. NA parties don't want to go here, don't want to go there, they want to repeatedly get replacements for a neverending part... not so in JP parties. In a JP party they don't care what you sub as long as its not taking away something vital for the party, they set a place, target, and period of time to party, and when people have to go its time to go. They don't hold people hostage like in NA parties where people frantically look for a replacement because someone is leaving early.

    Try holding a JP player in a party against thier will while you take 30 minutes or more to look for a replacement. (Fock this!) (Time for dinner!)

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    Re: JP PT Only

    JPs are generally good at:

    *Not losing Besieged
    *Recovering the AC when NAs lose it
    *Main healing on BLM

    NAs are generally good at:

    *Mother fucking manaburn everything
    *No wait, mother fucking MELEEburn everything
    *Hey remember arrowburn? Good times.

    EUs are generally good at:
    *Exping in full DRK AF
    *Umm...
    *Third option goes here

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by spooky
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlasion
    Pfft, every EU party I've had has been awesome.
    You bet your fat american ass it has been.
    his location says glasgow
    I think there's one of those in New Jersey too.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Back to the JP only stuff. Is there anyone notice that sometimes those ppl who put "JP only" are those who aren't japanese? lol

    I have know some number of people who aren't good in neither JP nor English, but always only seek with jp only comment.

    The only things about NA pt that I don't like is no matter there are how many pts in that camp already, they still want to go to that camp instead some alternative. Starring on the mire... thats how now I'm only merit with friends only pt or rather using blm for 5k/hr exp, which I can logout whenever I want after nuking 2-3 wamoura prince.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    I find with JP's it depends on your job and some of it based on your search comment.

    The good ol' JP/NA/EU {Party?} {OK} has always worked for me for getting invites on various jobs (War, Cor, Brd, Whm)

    It also depends on your job. When I was lvling BRD I got lots of invites from JPs during the "JP Only" days and they all had that in their search comment. They knew or found out I was NA shortly after inviting me. Did they care? Nope cause I was a brd. I do think that if there are other JP's lvling your job though during the time your seeking, JP's are going to invite them before you regardless of anything else.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    Wait, people are convinced that JPs are better than NAs? I guess I set my DeLorean to 2004 this morning...
    In terms of gears, you can only do so good. However, the following are true:

    1. JP are in generally more polite than NA.

    2. JP tend to take suggestions better. If you tell them "voke slept mob", they'll say 'I'm sorry', and promptly do so. Most NA will disregard you or do it once and that's it. Some NA even say 'I'm busy fighting the mob, no time for voke!'.

    3. There are more average JP than average NA.

    4. Most JP actually read up on stuff before attempting it. Try shouting for assault, most NA who has never done it will expect you to explain the objective. If you shout in JP, even those who have never done it will at least read up a little before hand.

    I've done a lot of events with both JP and NA. Quite frankly I prefer doing things with JP because most of them are humble enough to take criticism, and smart enough to take suggestions.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    I love being invited into a JP meripo, it's like all JP players have RDM, NIN, BRD, WHM, WAR, and/or MNK levelled to 75.

    Whenever I got invited into a full JP merit party, it's always either 3 WAR/MNK/NIN + RDM + WHM + BRD or 3 WAR/MNK/NIN + RDM + BRD + BRD

    Well...there is a good chance I got randomly picked into a JP LS party or something, but considering that some merit my friends have been telling me about (I haven't really merited much lately since I capped my NIN) how their merit party consist of 4 melee + RDM + BRD or even 5 melee + 1 mage kind of nightmare party...I can't say I'd be inclined to join pickups.

    At least from what I've seen, JP seem to treat their meriting as "serious business" rather than "some merit is better than no merit" attitude, since they really aim for that party setup consistently, I can't quite remember being invited into JP merit that doesn't follow that burn setup (I seek with JP comments on JP hour >_>)

    As far as the JP PT only thing, maybe it's just your server's problem, I haven't seen JP only comments on sylph for a while, and I have yet to get anyone I invited in japanese bailed when the party start speaking in english or telling me I should fuck off for being fakeJP

    They usually ask if I'm ???, but I usually answer with?????? and I have yet to get booted for that.

    But maybe it's just me being lucky, but as far as I'm concerned, I have no qualms with them.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    JP make shitty BLMs... that's been my experience 9/10s of the time.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Back in the day when I was leveling RDM and making my own parties I would invite a JP DD and then I could /t JP tanks and tell them it was NA + JP PT and they would usually go for it. It's been forever since I've leveled so it the situation may have changed but if you can get one JP (DD is easiest) then it's much easier to convince JP NINs and BRDs to join because they know they'll at least have someone to chat with.

    Also playing at the same time of day helps. If you're a good player you'll start to build a reputation and get invites much easier.

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    JP make shitty BLMs... that's been my experience 9/10s of the time.
    Oh come on everyone knows Errant body is better than Weskrit for nukes!

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    Re: JP PT Only

    Quote Originally Posted by Bagel

    EUs are generally good at:
    *Exping in full DRK AF
    *Umm...
    *Third option goes here
    *Not losing vowels?

    << is from UK :D

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    Re: JP PT Only

    I'm NA and spell most things the "british" way with the our and re and what not >_>

    also; going "I'm NA" sounds retarded as hell

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