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    Shall We Dance? ENM

    This might be simpler than I imagine, but, is there any strat involved with this other than sleepga the babies, carry antidotes/echo drops, and spamming thunder spells?

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    oh woops, I meant Shell We Dance? lulz

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanz L. Barre The 3rd
    oh woops, I meant Shell We Dance? lulz
    I used to do this with Bard, 3 MNKs and a RDM + filler. Soul Voiced 100 fists + trigger ready to sleep charmed players should be enough. RDM can chainspell cure as well. Pretty decent record doing this though a slow sleep on a charmed member can be fatal.

    edit: whoops wrong ENM

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    I believe they are talking about the Urganites, not Totenaz

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    I tried this a few times 2xRDM and one BLM but it always goes pear shaped.

    The BLM would open with AMII and then both the RDM Chainspell+Blizz3 but when the first Urganite is ~30% the spawns have killed the BLM and make a B-Line for the RDM, that or the spawns start wailing on us and the other Urganite uses Waterga 3. Think the lowest we got it was 20% or so before we wiped.

    Bit of a bitch since you really can't enfeeble the two main NMs and the pops are just bitchy is they manage to sneak past a sleep. Add in their Poison TP move and Convert can become a moot issue since you risk the Poison Killing you if you use it. Even with Antidotes I've had the Poison strip SS only to have a spawn crawl up and whack me in the face.
    Think on the worst run we had spawns beating on us, Poison spam and Waterga all at once. Was not fun.

    Think we tried it 2 or 3 times and not gone back since due to a combination of being demoralised and that fucking mountain climb. Confident the 3 of us could take it just not been bothered to figure out how. Maybe have the 2xRDM open with CS-Nukes and have the BLM AMII when the first RDM goes down or some such, save the big nuke to finish it off rather than start off. Since you could get the RDM to drag/sleep spawns a fair way away from the BLM. Then Kite-Nuke the other NM whilst sleeping spawns.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Hmmm. How many people are you looking to do this with?

    I trio this ENM every five days. Setup: 2 blms and an rdm.

    I can go into elaborate detail but it would only be beneficial to you if you have either of these two jobs levelled.

    In short, Perata must die fast and first. Then it's a cakewalk.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Quote Originally Posted by Andrinne
    In short, Perata must die fast and first. Then it's a cakewalk.
    I'm feeling exceptionally lazy. I outlined the basic strategy before in this newbie section again...I'm sure you could search on my name and "shell" and probably find it if you were so motivated.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrinne
    In short, Perata must die fast and first. Then it's a cakewalk.
    I'm feeling exceptionally lazy. I outlined the basic strategy before in this newbie section again...I'm sure you could search on my name and "shell" and probably find it if you were so motivated.
    viewtopic.php?f=31&t=15997&hilit=ENM
    found it. your strategy was "nuke mains, sleep adds." descriptive. ^^ actually though, andrinne, if you wouldn't mind, i'd be interested to hear your more specific strategy. i have both blm and rdm lvled and can foot the other 2 jobs from people i know most likely, so whatever info you might have would be handy.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Basically the three of us (2 blms, 1 rdm) go in, buff up, rest to full etc.

    We get within nuking distance of Perata and do a synced AM2 nuke on Perata basically in resting gear to make the most of our MP. (i throw on my weskit and hat to give a little edge to damage).

    Immediately after the first nuke lands, the 2 blms manafont, switch into full nuking gear and pound him down with single-target spells (no -gas).
    When the blms manafont, the RDM Cspells and hits Bladmall with a few spells to get his attention and to keep Bladmall focused on the RDM.

    The RDM and the BLMS reposition as they are casting to make sure that if Bladmall does a Paralyga it is focused on the RDM only and does not hit the blms. Paralyga during this could be deadly but doesn't necessarily mean a loss.

    The RDM in cspell sleeps all babies that Perata manages to pop out as he is dying. A BLM may have to toss out a Sleepga or cure themselves from the poison gas as well. But basically Perata is pounded into the ground with spell after spell from the BLMS.(I have also done this easily using only one BLM's manafont, but our BLMs are pretty souped up.) When Perata dies, his babies disappear, leaving only Bladmall who is really pissed at the RDM. Once Perata is dead, you have won, essentially.

    Bladmall, being a blm, won't advance but rather will sit there casting on the RDM or hiding in his shell, etc. The BLMs take this time to rebuff, cure, aspir, rest up. Kill the babies as they pop. 2 Tier4s take them down. Aspir as often as possible and nuke Bladmall down gradually when he pops up. The fight normally takes about 8-9 minutes with full buffing/rest at the beginning.

    A few tips that help:
    Echoes are a must in case of the silence move.
    RDM dispel shell on Bladmall
    RDM can load Bladmall up with DOTs for the hell of it to do some damage while he is in his shell.

    Hope it helps (Oh, and if you are on Fairy, don't do any of this, it won't work you don't need a blau dolch anyway )

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    hehe, thansk alot guys!

    Adrinne, what's your current record on blau drops?

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    I'll post my record just because I'm so proud of it, sitting at 0/18.

    And, I thought I had outlined the strat better...that must've been on my LJ, sorry about that. It is a pretty easy fight tho

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    If you dont want to use 2hrs an easy way to win this enm (as BLM + 2xRDM) is just have rdm hold one (the casting one) and all its babies to the side somewhere, or near the entrance. Should be able to hold all the mobs fine unless hes retarded and dies on convert.

    For the second one, just have a RDM kite it around the pillar on the right, can easily outrun it even without movement speed if you stick to the sides of the pillar. Keep it dotted and toss some small nukes until it pops out babies. The BLM then picks off the babies 1 by one as they pop (sleeping as needed). Once all three are dead, just kill the big one, then go back to the other RDM and start pulling his babies off 1 by one.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Sorry >< i dont check these boards too often. Our blau drop rate has been absurdly high. I haven't kept track of the specific numbers but we used to get one blau about every 3-4 runs. So around 25 percent. We've sold probably 6 total.

    We are superstitious and only let one person who has crazy luck open the crate. (we also make the same guy open Omega crates in Limbus and have gotten 3 bodies in 10 runs.That stat i DID keep track of. lol)

    However, we have gone a streak of about 5 Shell we dances lately with zero drops so our ratio is dropping. (same guy opening crate lol). The blaus made our group a lot of money when they were selling for around 6-8 million on Fairy. Now they are down to about 3.5 million.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    thanks for the advice, i'm going to try that one of these days.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Ah cool, I've been looking for a strat on this for the last few days too.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    Those emotes worry me.

    Congrats on blau, though. Bitch and a half for me to convince friends to help, because they want BD to drop so they can sell it, where I want it so I can use it.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    LOL

    max does that like rubbing a rabbit's foot for good luck.
    Cept he should rub Shotokan.

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    Re: Shall We Dance? ENM

    I imagine 3blm 1brd would be a cakewalk for this? Nuke hard and nuke fast Parata and then play with Bladmall until he's dead?

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    With BLM/NIN x2 and RDM/NIN this ENM is easily won. Just need to carry Antidotes+Echo Drops+RR pin(just incase) and follow Andrinne's strategy.

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