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    Re: Whats better?

    Yigit feet vs. Nashira feet for Bind, Grav, Sleeps and maybe aspir and Drain.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin
    Yigit feet vs. Nashira feet for Bind, Grav, Sleeps and maybe aspir and Drain.
    I'd wear Nashira on all of those.

    edit:

    For what job? I'm talking as a BLM, could well be different for RDM with their far superior enfeebling skill on bind + grav

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    Re: Whats better?

    woops yeah, BLM, doing it for the M.acc obviously


    Edit: Thanks much Blazing Taru :D

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    Re: Whats better?

    As PLD/WAR, swapping in Swift Belt for Flash, or keep Trance Belt on?

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    Re: Whats better?

    I recently obtained Askar Gambieras for my PLD but am at a loss as to how to maximize the footwear slot now. The other footwear options each have wonderful purposes for PLD/WAR or PLD/NIN and I can't figure out which to wear fulltime for each subjob vs HNM.

    Askar Gambieras
    DEF: 17 MP +30 STR +3 AGI +3
    Damage Taken -2%
    Enmity +2
    Set: Max HP Boost

    Homam Gambieras
    DEF: 16 HP +31 MP +31 Accuracy +6
    Ranged Accuracy +6 Haste +3%
    Wyvern: HP +50

    Gallant Leggings +1
    DEF: 19 HP +20 CHR +5
    Shield Skill +12

    Now for /WAR it used to be a no brainer, Gallant +1 always, but now I wonder if the Enm/dmg taken -2% is worth wearing over the +12 shield skill.
    Also, for /NIN, I can't choose between the HP/MP/Haste of Homam vs the Enm/MP of Askar.

    I'm leaning towards the non-askar options for both subjobs but I really think Askar is a sexy piece, I just can't figure out how to work it in. Any ideas?

    P.S. This is assuming I already have 30+ enm in other slots, 7-12% haste, and a suitable HP number in other slots already.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Kiting set and magic dmg- set?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Critzo: +enmity if you're lacking it for Flash, otherwise haste = love.
    Onel: Homam. The only thing Askar has over it is dmg reduction If you've hit the +enmity cap, then go with haste for /nin. The MP is less than Homam's and Homam's has +HP.

    Question: Gallant Surcoat +1 VS Valor Surcoat?

    Valor Surcoat
    DEF: 55 HP +23 DEX +3 Enmity +4
    Enhances "Cover" effect

    Gallant Surcoat +1
    DEF: 55 HP +20 VIT +6
    Divine Magic Skill +8
    Enmity +2

    I'm about to start leveling another job and need to finish the AF3 quest, I 'forgot' my paladin AF quest line and I've just never done the AF3 fight. I don't actually have the +1 limbus items yet, but so far its the most common job upgrade for our shell. I also don't have Valor yet.

    >>>I'm mainly interested in the opinion of if I should make the Surcoat+1 a priority since Valor is harder to get and I'll probably be waiting on it longer, and if there's any reason once I get the Valor Surcoat not to toss the inventory -1 G.Surcoat.

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    Thanx for the quick responses, I think I was too excited to finally get it and forgot about a little thing called practicality.

    Apelila I personally considered that same opportunity myself but decided against it when I realized it really would mean the gallant surcoat +1 was a waste of coins + AF items once I got valor body. Unless you feel the divine skill +8, enm -2 is worthwhile to macro over valor body for flash to maybeeeee prevent a resist on HNM, then I wouldn't do it. Personally I'd upgrade coronet (after feet) just cause I'm one of those fools that has a MND/MP build for getting the best efficiency out of chivalry on PLD/RDM >.<

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    Upgrading Gallant body is the quickest way to guarantee you'll win lot on M Body/Valor/Ares/whatever you'd rather use instead.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Does Enmity cap at +30? This is what I tend to believe anyways.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crizto
    Does Enmity cap at +30? This is what I tend to believe anyways.
    no.

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    Ah, that's what I keep seeing here. Do you know if it has a cap? Or maybe when the effects of it start to become unnoticable?

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    Re: Whats better?

    I have all 3 feet too, this is how I use them.

    Gallant Leggings+1 for all things /war.
    Homam Gambieras for all things /nin.
    Askar Gambierase for kiting and magic damage- sets.

    I use Gallant Surcoat -1 since I haven't been able to get Valor Surcoat. Valor is obviously better and will make Glt+1 obsolete but it's worth it until you get AF2.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Maybe a dumb question, but whatever.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 vs. Hecatomb Cap

    For Steel Cyclone WS.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 = HP+30, VIT+8, Attack +12

    Hecatomb Cap = HP +12, STR +11, DEX +5

    Also, would a Chaos Cuirass +1 be a waste of gil, for the same macro? ;o STR +7, VIT +7, Attack +10. I don't have Hecatomb body (do have Haub +1 though).

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Maybe a dumb question, but whatever.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 vs. Hecatomb Cap

    For Steel Cyclone WS.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 = HP+30, VIT+8, Attack +12

    Hecatomb Cap = HP +12, STR +11, DEX +5

    Also, would a Chaos Cuirass +1 be a waste of gil, for the same macro? ;o STR +7, VIT +7, Attack +10. I don't have Hecatomb body (do have Haub +1 though).
    As it stands now I'd say stick with heca cap for SC and stick with Haub+1 (even though you don't spend any gil for chaos upgrade)

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjafox
    Quote Originally Posted by Therin
    Maybe a dumb question, but whatever.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 vs. Hecatomb Cap

    For Steel Cyclone WS.

    Abyss Burgeonet +1 = HP+30, VIT+8, Attack +12

    Hecatomb Cap = HP +12, STR +11, DEX +5

    Also, would a Chaos Cuirass +1 be a waste of gil, for the same macro? ;o STR +7, VIT +7, Attack +10. I don't have Hecatomb body (do have Haub +1 though).
    As it stands now I'd say stick with heca cap for SC and stick with Haub+1 (even though you don't spend any gil for chaos upgrade)
    yes you do; 30 ancient coins has a monetary value; as does one Dark Adaman Sheet. (it's probably 300-500k on most servers).

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    Re: Whats better?

    For BLU Cannonball set-up:

    Wivre mask+1 (STR+3, VIT+3, DEF 21) or Dusk Mask (VIT+5, DEF 31). I know most people generally assume STR> VIT> DEF but didn't know if the differences were significant to see a change. Thanks!

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    Quote Originally Posted by Crizto
    Does Enmity cap at +30? This is what I tend to believe anyways.
    no.
    Then what is the max enmity that a pld or nin can get? Unlimited depending on the enmity you got?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winter85
    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    Quote Originally Posted by Crizto
    Does Enmity cap at +30? This is what I tend to believe anyways.
    no.
    Then what is the max enmity that a pld or nin can get? Unlimited depending on the enmity you got?
    Although I'm not sure what the actual cap is, anything over 30 then you're just wasting gear slots really..

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    I heard just very recently that +Enmity caps at 50 I don't really care to ever reach to cap though lol. Glad to know that other people see a small and almost inexistant change once they're above +30 Enmity.

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