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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    Osode sits in Storage on my Mannequin. Any MNK who uses it and claims it's the best ever body piece in my experience has been a sub par MNK in reality. Shura Togi > Osode in 90% of the situations, especially for DD. The only time you should think about Osode is if you are fighting some gimp ass TW mobs or Campaign Battle or for w/e reason the +50 Light will help you. I used Osode for about 4 Salvage runs after I got it. Thought the little bit of DEF/VIT and no -50hp would be solid for tanking but it really did nothing for me.

    Like people said, the only time Osode will benefit you is if you are already capped on Acc, which generally means on gimp mobs. Even with capped Acc on High levelthings(dude to feint, SV Mad or w/e) the 20atk will probably still do more for you then 10str.

    Osode is a situational body piece that I don't even bother macroing in for the situations it's useful.

    assuming ~300 defense, 20 attack will be equivalent to 10 str when (D+2.5~)*pdif = (D)*(pdif+0.06) -> D being both the calculated damage of h2h + fstr, and assuming fstr is at least 2 away from cap (the 2.5 in this instance is another way of saying you get 2 fstr half the time, and 3 fstr half the time.) assuming the worse case (2fstr) we get a ratio of: pdif = D/40.

    if your cRatio is moderately more than ~1/33rd of your damage value, then the osode will be 'better' if accuracy is unchanged. a level 75 monk using destroyers is, what.. 40? (and you cap fstr at ~100) so if your cRatio is about 1.21 or better and your accuracy is >92% and your strength is below ~100-105 you should 'probably' be using osode instead from a strict damage output perspective.

    of course, I don't know how often a monk should expect to have all of that, but I imagine that a build focusing on high attack and accuracy but less strength gear might approach that in some circumstances.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Resurrecting this noble thread.

    Usukane or Denali feet for Asuran?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe
    Resurrecting this noble thread.

    Usukane or Denali feet for Asuran?
    Which one has more accuracy?



    Now, similar question from me. Slugwinder; denali feet or scouts?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deftscythe
    Resurrecting this noble thread.

    Usukane or Denali feet for Asuran?
    Usukane.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanjiyan
    Now, similar question from me. Slugwinder; denali feet or scouts?
    Skadi > Scout's = STR+4 feet > STR+3 feet

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    Re: Whats better?

    It would be against the Skadi vs Scouts.........

    Someone did a test with Rutters (+3 Str as well) vs. Scouts, and scouts came out slightly on top.

    So unless you have r.acc problems on sidewinder, i'm gonna go with scouts.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Skadi's because it's easy to pile on R.Att in other slots, you always want more STR, and it even has a little R.Acc to boot.

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    Re: Whats better?

    guillotine: heca boots or af+1?
    assault/brutal or mermans/brutal or triumph/brutal?
    warwolf or potent?
    current setup:
    tred/pole/__/bomblet
    heca/pcc/??/brutal
    plastron/alky/rajas/sniper
    foragers/??/black/??

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    Re: Whats better?

    Guilly has crap mods right?

    Swap Plastron for something with Acc, Alky's for Nhands, Sniper for Flame (which would net 1 Str, 9 Dex for +2 Acc for the hand/ring swap), with Assault I'd probably use Warwolf, and go for Heca feet too, just for the free acc from Dex on them.

    Oh, and swap your brutal/rajas, they're on the wrong sides.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Oh, and swap your brutal/rajas, they're on the wrong sides.
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    Re: Whats better?

    COR TP Set, having a tough time deciding:

    Turban vs. Cobra Unit Cap

    Cobra cap would shave a Joy swing off for full TP after WS.

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    Now it's our little secret.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max™
    Guilly has crap mods right?

    Swap Plastron for something with Acc, Alky's for Nhands, Sniper for Flame (which would net 1 Str, 9 Dex for +2 Acc for the hand/ring swap), with Assault I'd probably use Warwolf, and go for Heca feet too, just for the free acc from Dex on them.

    Oh, and swap your brutal/rajas, they're on the wrong sides.
    i havent merited drk in a while, so i thought i might have enough acc for plastron. just trying to make use of the 6mil i spent on plastron ; ; guillotine has 25%str 25%mnd so its not much but it has str as a mod. dont have n hands, but gonna go get chaos+1 hands soon fo my guillotine macro. i guess ill stick to alks +plastron for my spin slash macro. thanks


    ps. ill change my rajas brutal placement ;x

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    Re: Whats better?

    My Guillotine setup is the following, and I land all hit about 90% of the time

    Perdu Sickle
    Pole Strap
    Bomb Core/Fire Bomblet (I use Core on Colibri for merits, Bomblet for pretty much everything else)
    Chaos Burgonet +1
    Chivalrous Chain
    Brutal/Abyssal
    Hauberk
    Chaos Gauntlets +1
    Rajas/Ulthalam's (Rajas/Flame for low evasion mobs)
    Abyss Cape
    Warwolf Belt
    Black Cuisses
    Chaos Sollerets +1

    I opted on the Chs. Sollerets +1 over Hecatomb Leggings because of the MND, and it's only one less STR than Heca. Also I use Chs. Gauntlets +1 over Hecatomb Mitts for the accuracy gor Guillotine exclusively. For Spiral Hell/Greatsword setups I use the two Hecatomb pieces and Forager's Mantle over Abyss Cape, and always use Flame over Ulthalam's.
    My goal is to get Mellonie's Scythe and Ring, which would make my Chs. Burgonet +1 a ws-only piece, eventually phased out my a Hecatomb Cap.

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    Re: Whats better?

    Quote Originally Posted by BroodIfrit
    My Guillotine setup is the following, and I land all hit about 90% of the time
    .95^4 = 0.814

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    Re: Whats better?

    Dune Boots or Fuma Kyahan for mnk TP? With Fumas I'd be at 25% haste, so that's why I'm wondering...with Brown Belt it was a nobrainer to use Dune (kick merits also), but now with BB, what would be better? since haste has increasing returns etc...

    Ty

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    Re: Whats better?

    Chasuble +1 or RDM af1 body for landing debuffs on HNMs?

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    Re: Whats better?

    Blue Cotehardie or Assault Jerkin for DE/Evisceration as DNC?

    My current setup has +21 STR/+23 DEX/+60 ATK with Assault Jerkin.

    My setup would become +25 STR/+26 DEX/+43 ATK with the Cotehardie.

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